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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:17:12 PM EDT
[#1]
germany g36's are awesome
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:17:25 PM EDT
[#2]
Get a US firearm, or failing that, get a German one.
ETA: IBTP! |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:17:59 PM EDT
[#3]
A tie between Germany and the US. They spend more time and money on quality, our designs are better.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:19:01 PM EDT
[#4]
US:
M1 Garand M1 Carbine Thompson M3 subgun (greasegun) 1903 1903A3 1911 M14 M16 etc |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:19:23 PM EDT
[#5]
I think you'd have to break it down by century. For the 20th century I'd have to say Germany.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:25:44 PM EDT
[#6]
agreed. definitely late 1930's to early 40's Germany. That bullet proof Mauser action, and the MG34 and MG42, the MP40,etc. Honestly, almost everyone's weapons of that era were pretty damn good, until mass production had it's way with them. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:28:53 PM EDT
[#7]
Deutschland uber alles.
I'd trade every gun I won for one NIB MG42. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:35:43 PM EDT
[#8]
USA.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:35:58 PM EDT
[#9]
Ding Ding! |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:46:17 PM EDT
[#10]
The Greasegun is the M3 (and M3A1). The 1903 was a copy of the Mauser. I'm inclined to give the prize to the Germans. While gun for gun I often prefer American models (1911s rule!), the Germans tend to innovate the most. For example, the MG-34 and MG-42 lead the world in terms of GPMGs, and the Germans innovated with assualt rifles, etc. Late WW2, the Germans were using advanced infantry / tank tactics, using their halftracks as IFVs. Their infantry squad was built around the GPMG. They had reached a tactical sophistication we wouldn't reach until the 60s/70s. Late WW1 was similar, with the Germans showing great tactical innovation and sophistication. Both times, the material superiority of their enemies made advanced German tactics a mute point. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:53:01 PM EDT
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Well crap! I figured someone would prove me wrong. I wasn't sure. What was the M2 subgun? It still say US. Yeah, the Germans were innovative, but by the end of WWII, our guys had been carrying a semiauto as standard issue while EVERYONE else was carrying bolt guns. Granted, there were a few subguns and the various MGs as well as the Sturmgehwer (sp?), our guys still have the best standard, widely issued rifles. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:53:36 PM EDT
[#12]
AR-15 - Standard rifle which other are judged
M2 - The finest heavy machinegun in the world, nobody as come up with anything better for 80 years M1 Garand - Only semi rifle fielded in WW2 Thompson - First practical, reliable, submachinegun 1911 Colt Single Action Army Browing Hi Power - Standard military sidearm of dozens of nations Winchester Lever guns |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 4:55:23 PM EDT
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I'de have to say the swiss, but since they aren't on the list I went with good olde US of A
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:05:52 PM EDT
[#15]
I'd vote the same...and don't forget HK brought us the VP70 and the P7M8... When America tried to innovate with polymer we got the All American 2000... 
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:09:27 PM EDT
[#16]
USA
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:11:20 PM EDT
[#17]
Anyone know what Germany, Austria & Switzerland use for a sidearm now?
I'm guessing Glock for Austria since they're made there, but the others??????????? |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:11:34 PM EDT
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I say German. MP40 MG38 MG42 Stg 44 Luger Walther P38 USA made more. Germans made better. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:12:32 PM EDT
[#19]
USA
....then everybody else. And don't forget the best revolvers ever produced, too. HH |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:13:01 PM EDT
[#20]
I thought Garands were designed in Canada, correct me.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:14:09 PM EDT
[#21]
American made, by a Canuck I think that why they call it the US Rifle M1.  |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:15:13 PM EDT
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You forgot the Winchesters, Colts and other fine guns of yore. Not one mention of the Winchester repeating rifles or the Colt Peacemaker? Come on people!!! Guns weren't just invented in 1940 you know! |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:19:35 PM EDT
[#23]
When he said "what country" and "small arms" I read it to mean state developed weapons. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:20:42 PM EDT
[#24]
USA!!! 1911A1, M-1 Garand, Thompson, BAR, M-16/AR-15!
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:23:30 PM EDT
[#25]
My vote is america.
we got Maxims Machine gun and all the guns that spawned. and of Course John Moses Browning and the slew of guns he came up with. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:26:09 PM EDT
[#26]
Well actually, the M1 Garand, M16 and Thompson submachine gun were all private developed weapons which were marketed to the state. The Thompson submachine gun especially had been in civilian use for decades before the military picked it up during WW2. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:26:12 PM EDT
[#27]
Hate to say it, but the Germans have us beat... but its close.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:29:07 PM EDT
[#28]
'Finest' is pretty subjective, so I'll go with the Russians. The AK sets the standard for reliability. The RPK was a 'SAW' when the M249 was just a glimmer in some design teams eyes. The PKM is virtually unmodified for the past few decades because it simply works.
One could outfit a mighty fine infantry unit with these gems:   
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:33:23 PM EDT
[#29]
MP5.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:35:11 PM EDT
[#30]
My dad went into combat with the M14 and he said it never failed. 
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:37:29 PM EDT
[#31]
One country that has been conspicuously ignored is belgium.
M240 M249 P90 FN2000 FiveseveN SCAR FAL All sorts of other goodies like shotguns and such. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:39:21 PM EDT
[#32]
The M240 is based off of a Browning BAR, turned upside down and adapted to belt feed. Or so I am told.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:41:26 PM EDT
[#33]
How could you have forgotten the Ma Deuce?! Not to mention the 1919. We've got quite a few more weapons that are rather interesting as well. And I've noticed that our focus has mostly been on military arems, very little attention has been paid to sporting arms, many of which are of extremely high quality. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:42:46 PM EDT
[#34]
Okay, well there's still the M249, 5.7, p90, fal, f2000, etc. etc. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:44:47 PM EDT
[#35]
Germans have the USP 9MM. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:49:42 PM EDT
[#36]
US.
With a close tie to Germany. Definetely WWII era and before. I think I am one of the few who just aren't impressed with many of the more modern HK desings. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:50:19 PM EDT
[#37]
Germany, Hands down. IMHO. they've had the most revolutionary ideas. Even as far as the messerschmidt and the tiger tank. But the assault rifle was an achievement none can live up to.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:51:35 PM EDT
[#38]
US or Germany. They both produce great firearms.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:51:49 PM EDT
[#39]
Browning auto 5 Browning Hi-Power Browning Super-posed don't forget the Belgians also made all of JMBs guns following him getting in a pissing match with winchester |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:52:09 PM EDT
[#40]
And we dont have Gaston Glock, which gives us more points in our favor 
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Posted: 9/19/2005 5:57:29 PM EDT
[#41]
I second Belgium. Although a lot of those were actually designed by an American.
And from out of left field what about Czechoslavakia? Bren and CZ (as original designs) and gorgeous mauser copies. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 6:02:00 PM EDT
[#42]
Switzerland was also left out. I know all of you claim to want a Sig 55x and those are made by SwissArms.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 6:02:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/19/2005 6:07:49 PM EDT
[#44]
The tiger tank's suspension system was actually originally designed by an American, but there was no domestic interest, so the Germans ripped it off. I can't remember the guy's name, but I saw it on the History Channel, so it must be true
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Posted: 9/19/2005 6:17:43 PM EDT
[#45]
Walter Christie. He did his best work in the late twenties. The Russians thought he hung the moon (he did), so they paid him license to run his suspension on one of their first (and I think all subsequent) tanks. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 6:53:47 PM EDT
[#46]
Good, I'm not nuts. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 7:01:10 PM EDT
[#47]
The answer is of course that the Czechs do...
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Posted: 9/19/2005 7:03:04 PM EDT
[#48]
Switzerland, no question about it.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 7:05:04 PM EDT
[#49]
Browning designs are the most copied throughout the world in the 20th century Lets not forget the Browning BAR. It was made at the end of WW1 and got us through WW2, Korea, and early Vietnam! even the Belgiums copied it in 7x57 
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Posted: 9/19/2005 7:11:56 PM EDT
[#50]
I am surprised that the belgians are so far behind.
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