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Posted: 4/30/2011 4:55:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2011 4:58:24 PM EDT by ScramasaxDurango]
Political instability? All-out civil war? Financial collapse? Mad Max-style battle in the streets? Being targeted by a criminal organization? Being wrongly accused of a horrible crime?

What could cause you to leave the United States? (note that I came up with this while looking over the "bug out" thread. You should go check that out too: Original)



For me there are a few things–– for one, being falsely accused of rape (especially of a minor) to ruin my reputation, because I don't think that you can ever completely prove yourself innocent to people, and no matter what you do, they're still going to judge you, even if you are truly innocent. Hopefully I'll never allow myself to be put in a position where I could be accused of something like that.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 4:56:51 PM EDT
If another country offered free hookers and blow
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 4:56:56 PM EDT
Nothing, I'll dig in and fight if I have to.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 4:57:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ScramasaxDurango:
Being wrongly accused of a horrible crime?



Why would you assume it was a wrongful accusation?



Link Posted: 4/30/2011 4:58:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2011 4:58:28 PM EDT by Vicinity]
MC4H being unbanned.

Or nuclear winter. Both highly unlikely, though.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 4:58:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Nothing, I'll dig in and fight if I have to.


Yup, This is my home and I will try and fix it rather than run and hide!!

If all the people coming to this country would do the same we would be better off!!!
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 4:58:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Nothing, I'll dig in and fight if I have to.


We might have to.....
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 4:59:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2011 5:01:08 PM EDT by 6winchester2]
Sometimes I am too silly.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 4:59:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MK4Mod0:
Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Nothing, I'll dig in and fight if I have to.


Yup, This is my home and I will try and fix it rather than run and hide!!

If all the people coming to this country would do the same we would be better off!!!


Hmmm see, overall big political things probably couldn't force me to leave (unless we just all-out went the theocratic or Communist route or something crazy like that, and even then I might be Red Dawning that shit), but certain more individualized things probably could.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:01:11 PM EDT
Kate Beckinsale.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:01:12 PM EDT
Either I'm staying or we're all going.

Fill your hands you son of a bitch.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:02:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2011 5:03:27 PM EDT by ScramasaxDurango]
Originally Posted By HogJaws:

Fill your hands you son of a bitch.


Hmmm? Not sure who you're referring to
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:04:04 PM EDT
Nothing - Dig in and Fight






Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:05:21 PM EDT
I'll die here brother. Either peacefully or violently.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:06:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ScramasaxDurango:
Originally Posted By HogJaws:

Fill your hands you son of a bitch.


Hmmm? Not sure who you're referring to


It's a John Wayne quote that I'm going to steal when the time is right.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:06:30 PM EDT
Nothing.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:07:32 PM EDT
Obvious intractable vote fraud by the party who would want such a thing.   Then it's time to kill or get out of Dodge.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:08:03 PM EDT
Shit staying pretty much on the same track its' on now.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:10:57 PM EDT
Other question is, where would you go?  Most of the rest of the world (at least the industrialized countries) has already gone socialist.  Hmm....I wonder why the world is going to shit.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:14:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GrIlLa:
I'll die here brother. Either peacefully or violently.


This says it all
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:15:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Other question is, where would you go?  Most of the rest of the world (at least the industrialized countries) has already gone socialist.  Hmm....I wonder why the world is going to shit.


We are humanities last hope.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:16:54 PM EDT
Vacation.



Texas Secession...I'm not moving again.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:17:16 PM EDT



Originally Posted By steinlok87:



Originally Posted By alemonkey:

Other question is, where would you go?  Most of the rest of the world (at least the industrialized countries) has already gone socialist.  Hmm....I wonder why the world is going to shit.




We are humanities last hope.


Czech Republic.



I frankly think the USA is doomed.  Watching Congress fail and understanding how and who put Congress in their offices confirms it.  It's a matter of time.  USA  is doomed.



 
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:21:22 PM EDT
The PSP would make me leave.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:27:20 PM EDT
The only thing that could make me leave is the threat of the gov. taking my child from me.




Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:30:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Nothing, I'll dig in and fight if I have to.


This is the reason why I stay, people still have the will to do that.

To be honest though, I'm tired of road rage, rap music, douchebags, jersey shore, pissing matches from politicians, etc.

When the fight leaves Americans, I geuss I'll go somewhere else. I have living relatives in other countries. (Germany, Norway)
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:31:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Nothing, I'll dig in and fight if I have to.


What he said
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:33:50 PM EDT
I'm staying to the bitter end.....which appears to be just around the bend.



I've never been a very good person....the least I can do is pay homage to the men and women who fought tooth and nail to settle this Nation (and make it the shining beacon it was for over two hundred years) by not giving up on her.



Gonna go down with the ship on this one.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:35:55 PM EDT



Originally Posted By steinlok87:


Nothing, I'll dig in and fight if I have to.
This might force me to relocate....









 
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:36:38 PM EDT

I have a home and business in SE Asia.


If America is worth fighting for I'll stay, but
I always have a back-up plan.



Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:38:20 PM EDT
For those that are wondering, the rest of the world is pretty much the same as America, except we speak English better, beer is more expensive and pizza takes longer to get delivered.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:40:22 PM EDT
Finding a place more friendly to individual liberty and freedom.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:40:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By desertmoon:
I'm staying to the bitter end.....which appears to be just around the bend.

I've never been a very good person....the least I can do is pay homage to the men and women who fought tooth and nail to settle this Nation (and make it the shining beacon it was for over two hundred years) by not giving up on her.

Gonna go down with the ship on this one.


I'm seeing a lot of people talking about fighting to the bitter end, which is fine and good, but what if it's not necessarily a big political-type thing? What if it's personal? Still going to stay and fight? And what if winning doesn't necessarily mean winning? See what I said in my first post.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:40:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lancair:
For those that are wondering, the rest of the world is pretty much the same as America, except we speak English better, beer is more expensive and pizza takes longer to get delivered.


The only thing seperating The U.S. from the rest of the english speaking world is our gun laws and the freedom they represent. Without those, we might as well be England, Australia or New Zealand. Then it would be O.K to give a shit about the royals.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:44:29 PM EDT
I ain't leaving.  I've been all around the world and this place is still the best, even with our faults.  Unfortunately,  it appears to be waning quickly.  But it won't be because I haven't tried my best to preserve what the founding fathers intended.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:46:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Nothing, I'll dig in and fight if I have to. when the time comes


this. (and fixed)
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:49:03 PM EDT
I'd like to say I would dig my heels in, but I'm already abandoning Colorado in favor of Wyoming. When you see the liberal flood destroy slowly destroying everything you love, its hard not to try and find greener pastures. I'm not sure I could ever leave America though, there's nowhere else to go.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:49:10 PM EDT
The search for truth.

According to every liberal I know, there's a marvelous Utopia out there somewhere where the birds are singing, children are holding hands, there is no hunger or suffering, evil people do not exist, and there are lollipops in everybodies stockings. There's no need for money because everything is free.....everybody contributes an equal share of their labor willingly to contribute to the common good, but the best part is nobody really has to contribute or work because in such a benevolent society those who can't/won't contribute will be taken care of. Imagine that....they found a workable solution to the ever-so-vexing problem of providing anything and everything to everyone without anybody actually having to be productive - everything just magically appears out of thin air because they wish it so.

I seek to understand how this could happen because as an ignorant conservative who's too stupid to understand such complex liberal notions, I yearn to be enlightened by a heavenly utopia driven strickly by a lack of ambition. That......and if I could catch one of their goddam unicorns and bring it home as a gift to my wife I know she'd put out. If not, I'd cook that fucker up and serve unicorn meat to the entire neighborhood.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:50:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2011 5:53:36 PM EDT by RedDogSoldier]





Originally Posted By Lancair:



For those that are wondering, the rest of the world is pretty much the same as America, except we speak English better, beer is more expensive and pizza takes longer to get delivered.
Ummm...





I'm pretty well traveled and I'm calling BULLSHIT on that one.



ETA:



And my family has been here since the first Europeans showed up. I ain't leaving.
 
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:52:06 PM EDT
Nothing, will always be here.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:56:06 PM EDT








Except it really ain't worth fighting for anymore.  If freedom is to exist, the smart money is that it will come in the form of the United States becoming un-united.  We're too polarized, and I don't we see eye to eye on anything anymore.  If anyone in Texas knows of socialists down there, have them get in touch with me, and we'll swap houses.  They can come up and live the welfare state dream, and I'll go down there, shoot my guns and eat brisket until I vomit.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:58:55 PM EDT



Originally Posted By agillig:









Except it really ain't worth fighting for anymore.  If freedom is to exist, the smart money is that it will come in the form of the United States becoming un-united.  We're too polarized, and I don't we see eye to eye on anything anymore.  If anyone in Texas knows of socialists down there, have them get in touch with me, and we'll swap houses.  They can come up and live the welfare state dream, and I'll go down there, shoot my guns and eat brisket until I vomit.
I've got a 16 pounder smoking right now.





 
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 5:59:39 PM EDT
Herpes.  Or Derpes.  Definitely herpe derpes.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 6:00:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Herpes.  Or Derpes.  Definitely herpe derpes.


That's a very tiny gun, Mr. Squirrel.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 6:00:32 PM EDT
The discovery of a new livable planet and a means to get there.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 6:01:02 PM EDT




Originally Posted By RedDogSoldier:





Originally Posted By agillig:









Except it really ain't worth fighting for anymore. If freedom is to exist, the smart money is that it will come in the form of the United States becoming un-united. We're too polarized, and I don't we see eye to eye on anything anymore. If anyone in Texas knows of socialists down there, have them get in touch with me, and we'll swap houses. They can come up and live the welfare state dream, and I'll go down there, shoot my guns and eat brisket until I vomit.
I've got a 16 pounder smoking right now.





I'm on my way.  I never even knew what brisket was until 3 years ago when I went to Texas for a wedding.

Link Posted: 4/30/2011 6:01:29 PM EDT
Tough to say, but it would have to be something pretty extreme. I'd go somewhere in South/Central America or South East Asia if I had to pick... mostly just because of costs of living and climate.

My biggest gripe would be gun laws of whatever country I fled to. I'd be tempted to figure out some sly way to bring a few with me though.

The loss of freedom and relative security here would be missed. I'm not good at haggling with corrupt foreign police/gangs.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 6:01:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RedDogSoldier:

Originally Posted By Lancair:
For those that are wondering, the rest of the world is pretty much the same as America, except we speak English better, beer is more expensive and pizza takes longer to get delivered.
Ummm...

I'm pretty well traveled and I'm calling BULLSHIT on that one.

ETA:

And my family has been here since the first Europeans showed up. I ain't leaving.

 


Lighthearted comment is lighthearted, buddy.
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 6:03:58 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Lancair:



Originally Posted By RedDogSoldier:




Originally Posted By Lancair:

For those that are wondering, the rest of the world is pretty much the same as America, except we speak English better, beer is more expensive and pizza takes longer to get delivered.
Ummm...



I'm pretty well traveled and I'm calling BULLSHIT on that one.



ETA:



And my family has been here since the first Europeans showed up. I ain't leaving.



 




Lighthearted comment is lighthearted, buddy.
Sorry.



I was going to add a "unless you're joking caveat". I don't remember why I didn't.



I figured out you were kidding about 2.1 seconds after I clicked submit.





 
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 6:04:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ScramasaxDurango:
Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Herpes.  Or Derpes.  Definitely herpe derpes.


That's a very tiny gun, Mr. Squirrel.


Talking to my wife huh?
Link Posted: 4/30/2011 6:04:55 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Kuraki:



Originally Posted By ScramasaxDurango:


Originally Posted By Kuraki:

Herpes.  Or Derpes.  Definitely herpe derpes.




That's a very tiny gun, Mr. Squirrel.




Talking to my wife huh?


Speaking of herpes...



 
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