This question is mostly for the guys who are in the cold area where it get down to -30. I What boots are issued to you or you go out and buy? Also and advice on base layers or gloves that you can shoot with? Thanks. I'm asking because I might have a job as a police officer in ND.

Other than Mickey mouse boots, I have never been issued cold weather boots...just the gortex lined desert...which dont really keep your feet warm..

got issued a mess of cold weather stuff

thermals, gloves, mittens w/ liners, beanie, mickey mouse boots, Bellevelle cold weather boots, parka top and bottom, green fleece, APECS top and bottom, wool socks, and a face warmer.

and don't forget the reflector belt

How where the MM boots if you needed to run?

Awkward and as soon as you moved your feet start to sweat alot...

Gortex Bellvilles with NBC overboots kept my feet decently warm in 10ish degree weather for a few hours.



OP- I'd imagine the guys at your department would be far more knowledgeable about gear that works (and you're authorized to wear) than us.

He's talking about these boots.  I'd me more concerned with being able to drive a vehicle than running.







 

I know but finding people from the BIA who will talk is hard!  I also want to keep my eyes open and see if there might be something better out there.

Ellsworth we got issued Bates, and Mukluks
RAF Mildehall we got Gortex winter and summer Danners or Matterhorns while we were still assigned directly under the flying squadrons, then when they put all AFSOC maint into a "different" maintenance squadron we got issued those crappy plain leather steal toes, and wool socks.
McGuire/Fort Dix we got Belleville boots along with our desert and warm weather boots (three pair initial and new whenever we needed them). It depended on the unit; I was assigned to two different units...one on McGuire and then another on Fort Dix. Both issued nice Belleville boots.

Up here we get issued Belleville cold weather and warm weather boots. A nice cold weather sock called "Covert Threads". Gortex jacket/pants/gloves with fleece liners. They issue us some nice cold weather stuff up here. I have been suited up and out in full blown blizzards for long periods of time and the only cool spot was at the eye opening of my face mask.

Up in these parts, after the first 3 or so months of winter here you start pealing stuff off because you get too hot. Thermal underwear, light gloves, and uniform is what I wear if I have to go outside at my site. Come Mar/Apr it's like a heat wave when the temp reaches 35-40, at least for me. I have washed my car wearing nothing but shorts, t-shirt, and flipflops...while the water is freezing on my windshield

I would say the Danner, Matterhorn, Belleville cold weather boots would be a good choice.

Those gortex lined desert boots are money.  We had to slog through this muck on a field problem.  The temperature was bouncing back and forth above and below freezing so you had this cold mud soup that was really nasty.  It was like walking through fudge.  We had to do a assault up to the edge of a bunker complex and then call in air to kill it.  It was a good 200-300 meters after all was said and done.  We had to drag a sked back through the mud.  It ripped the liner off the inside of the boot so it became a sock.  My feet stayed completely dry though.  Doing that 11 times in one day was a suck fest.  There were a few dudes running warm weather boots in that stuff.  Bad planning right there.  Can't comment on super cold weather, but those boots are solid from my experience.  I think the liner coming out was just a fluke due to the number of iterations trying to sprint through muck.  It didn't dead line the boot though.  They worked just fine and I wore them after that.   They just had an odd inner sock to them.  Id imagine they could withstand way colder weather given the right socks.

We had Mickeys when we did Bridgeport and Norway.  For anything other than standing still, they suck.

See, I feel the exact opposite.  I did Bridgeport and Camp Ripley, MN and I LOVED the Mickey Mouses,..... they never let me down and I never worried about my feet.

Damn I've been out a long time, but when I was in we were issued vapor barrier boots (mickey mouse), mukluks, mountain boots, wool long johns, arctic parka with liner and hood, wool field pants with liner, wool field shirts, 2 balacalavas, trigger finger mittens, arctic mittens, wool scarf, wool sweater, white wool socks, Arctic sleeping bag, and some stuff I am sure I am forgetting.
In 89-90 they were beginning to issue the ECWCS, so We got issued the gor-tex parka, buffalo jacket, and polypropylene long johns. My unit got to test some Rocky thinsulate boots about that time and they were really nice. Lightweight and warm.


ETa what ate Bellvilles?

http://www.bellevilleshoe.com/

I must have had the Korean War leftovers then.  I was not impressed.

Why does it matter what cold weather gear we get issued we are never allowed to wear any of it.

The best part is the random NCO's and officers yelling at you to take off your cold weather gear and "man up". Even though they work inside all day and sit next to a heater and they just went outside to take a piss or go to the chow hall. My last deployment I was issued thousands of dollars in cold weather gear, and the only thing I was allowed to wear was that thin light green furry jacket thing. Gotta love the military logic.

Because people are flaming morons.

It's been a while, but I fell in love with my mukluks and would wear them whenever I had to fly in cold weather environments. Comfortable, and my feet never got cold in them. Still got 'em, 14 years after retiring, and wear 'em here whenever it snows.

I had a pair of Matterhorns issued to me once.  They were insulated, GoreTex, and like 14" tall.  They were warm as hell but my feet sweat like crazy so they sucked for me.

They took away our Mickey Mouse boots a few years ago, which I never understood. They were rarely worn, but when they were needed...they were needed.