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Posted: 2/14/2013 12:36:26 PM EDT
SO my mother has voiced concerns that she doesn't feel safe on her daily walks at a park near her house. Living in Illinois, she has no option for CCW. What options exist? I was thinking a Kimber Pepper Blaster II, anything else I should look into?

Link Posted: 2/14/2013 12:40:17 PM EDT
Bear spray cannister
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 12:55:41 PM EDT
Pepper spray or a taser.

Not sure if you guys have any screwed up taser laws though, may want to check on that.

Perhaps should could just walk around with a zombie slaying blade ?
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 12:59:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2013 1:01:28 PM EDT by waterglass]
A battle axe. no one messes with people who have battle axes. Or maybe a halberd.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 12:59:41 PM EDT
If no gun then I agree with th Kimber Blaster choice.
Would she get and walk with a dog too?
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:00:52 PM EDT
Illinois Carry aka fanny pack carry.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:02:53 PM EDT
Taser legal?


Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:03:11 PM EDT
Wrist rocket with steel ball bearings.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:03:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Callahan:
Illinois Carry aka fanny pack carry.


I almost think in her situation, it may be easier to have the pepper blaster at the ready, then having to unzip a fanny pack, insert magazine into a gun, and then rack it, aim and fire, all while someone is attacking.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:04:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ceverett:
Taser legal?




No
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:04:35 PM EDT
In the order I would suggest:


Big dog
Walking stick
Fox Labs pepper
TASER C2
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:04:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2013 1:05:38 PM EDT by Thedude27]



I'll bet nobody approaches her if carrying this.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:04:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:05:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Callahan:
Illinois Carry aka fanny pack carry.


Curious about this. More info, please.

(I"m too lazy to google )
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:06:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By N2CH_556:
Originally Posted By Callahan:
Illinois Carry aka fanny pack carry.


Curious about this. More info, please.

(I"m too lazy to google )


In Illinois, an individual can carry an unloaded handgun, with a loaded magazine in the same compartment in a fanny pack or other similar zippered case (think maxpedition bag), this is given they possess a valid FOID card.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:06:48 PM EDT



<<<< Just hire me. Have 3.5" Rocket Launcher will travel.



I will not comply.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:07:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:07:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2013 1:08:26 PM EDT by mi650]
An English Mastiff.



She may have to shorten her walks though. Mastiffs are lazy.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:08:03 PM EDT
If your mom feels unsafe, she should carry whatever she can that makes her feel safe. That is my opinion.

If Illinois is anything like NYC, knives and pepper spray are also prohibited, so at that point, what does it really matter?
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:08:47 PM EDT
klingon sword
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:09:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2013 1:10:02 PM EDT by robb01]
Originally Posted By LibertarianYankee:
If your mom feels unsafe, she should carry whatever she can that makes her feel safe. That is my opinion.

If Illinois is anything like NYC, knives and pepper spray are also prohibited, so at that point, what does it really matter?


Well, I tend to agree, but having my mother not be a felon would be ideal as well. Knives and Spray are legal, so I ordered some 2 oz Fox labs spray (stuff looks insanely nasty).
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:09:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2013 1:10:31 PM EDT by sdailey5]
ETA: Freakin' beat by OP

Fox Labs Firemaster:

Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:10:41 PM EDT
Can of Dolphin Free Tuna inside a sock. The ultimate mele' weapon.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:11:01 PM EDT
IL compliant rape whistle and cell phone.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:11:12 PM EDT
I am on a roll today



Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:13:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:15:46 PM EDT
Atlatl
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:18:46 PM EDT
These are both readily available in the kitchen where she should be anyway.



Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:21:57 PM EDT
MagLite
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 1:22:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By robb01:
Originally Posted By ceverett:
Taser legal?




No

Good grief.

It looks like it's just a minor misdemeanor to carry one.

I think of all the non-lethal weapons, a taser is the only one that I would even consider for an average women.


Link Posted: 2/14/2013 2:23:20 PM EDT
A replica of Sting and a Ring of Power.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 2:36:09 PM EDT
My wife has one of those pepper blasters. You should go look at youtube videos of people testing them.


I don't like it and wouldn't trust it. It shoots a gel that sticks. Unless if you get good aim at the shot (not constant spray) you're screwed. Yes, it leaches into the skin but I would rather have a spray that I can adjust aim mid stream (that's what she said).
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 2:39:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 2:40:51 PM EDT
brass knuckles.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 2:42:24 PM EDT
I recommend a taser if legal in your state. very effective in most cases andmore effective against those on drugs that sprays
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 2:47:27 PM EDT
I greatly enjoyed the thought of 'battleaxe'. Then, I realized he wasn't calling names.

Still, battle axe is pretty cool idea for a middle aged lady. (pun intended)

Link Posted: 2/14/2013 2:48:23 PM EDT
If she is worried about walks in the park; get a dog, OC spray and a walking stick.

If she doesn't want to worry about walks in the park, give her some Krav Maga classes. (After a Krav Maga workout, she won't need to walk in the park.)
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 2:51:10 PM EDT
I would go with pepper spray. Choose one that gives you some range and has enough volume to subdue more than one attacker.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 2:53:44 PM EDT
If she doesn't/can't do it right, does he have a stern voice?

Link Posted: 2/14/2013 2:59:54 PM EDT


Yes. Nothing says "I am serious about my walk" like carrying a morning star.


My mom had the same concern while out on her walks. My choice was a can of Fox Labs.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 3:23:29 PM EDT
Chainsaw. already running, just idling. She's set to go.

Kevlar Chaps might come in handy.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 3:24:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 3:26:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 3:35:10 PM EDT
I should point out that IL law considers any knife longer than 2" (or is it 3"?) an illegal weapon, and they also consider anything else that is a weapon, can be used as a weapon, or is used as a weapon, to be an illegal weapon.

If you attack somebody with a loaf of bread, the loaf of bread is an illegal assault weapon.

The answer to your question is for her to move the fuck out of that state. Then the other 40-some-odd free states should fire up their National Guards and burn Illinois to the ground just like Dorner and his cabin.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 3:38:16 PM EDT
There is none.
Only a firearm is a real defense against one who wishes to do bodily harm, particularly if the intended victim is an elderly female.
The only thing that comes close is a large and well trained DOG.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 4:30:26 PM EDT
This is America. Get her a gun.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 4:38:21 PM EDT


Too bad it's just vapors ware. I'd love to have one.

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Link Posted: 2/14/2013 4:41:45 PM EDT
Big fogger of OC. Fox Labs or Sabre.
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 4:43:14 PM EDT
an ugly head
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 4:44:54 PM EDT
Get her a boyfriend with a gun...
Link Posted: 2/14/2013 4:50:27 PM EDT
Is a can of wasp spray and a BIC lighter legal there?
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