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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:30:44 PM EDT
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Ford and I hope you know it will be well used.
Thats only because gm is not an option. |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:32:04 PM EDT
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 i would buy this |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:42:08 PM EDT
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+1 And you'd have roughly $4k left over for fuel. Win / Win |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:42:13 PM EDT
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For the most part, they are pretty similar. Dodge makes a good motor, and with a manual trans you should be fine. The 7.3 PS motors are great too, not industrial rated, but good.
The 98.5 and newer Cummins have a flat power curve. It gives max power for a large range of the curve, it is designed electronically to do this. The previous cummins was not as powerful, but still a good engine. The automatics are derated to a lower torque rating than the manual trucks. The older 12v engines with a manual put out similair power and are still good engines. I personally like the Dodge styling better than the Ford, and I like the interor better. Have a fun truck hunt. Oh, if you plan on running bio diesel, you should check with Ford and Dodge about their approval. Some of the fuel lines and seals will need to be replaced with Viton in some of the older diesels. Bio diesel doesn't put out as much power as regular, but bio is chemically a lubricant and fossil diesel is a solvent. This means that if broken in properly, the bio diesel engine will last longer than the regular diesel engine. If it were me, '99 Dodge Cummins, 4x4, ex cab, short bed. Detroit in the rear, truetrack in the front with 3" lift and BFG AT T/As. |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:45:03 PM EDT
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a late 90s manual trans cummins are decent solid trucks
and probably about the only thing in your price range a friend has 12 or so of them as work trucks for his construction co they beat the shit out of them and have very little problems |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:46:39 PM EDT
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Toyota Hilux crew cab.
and still some $$ left over. (too bad no North American models...  )
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:47:11 PM EDT
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Dodges sound like a coffee can full of pennies. |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:50:01 PM EDT
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This is going to turn into a Ford Vs. Dodge Vs. Chevy pissing contest I just know it.
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:50:21 PM EDT
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A used Toyota Hilux! Unfortunately they aren't sold here.
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:50:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2007 9:54:07 PM EDT
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I loved the old style that you are talking about with the hood that dips down for the lights But if the budget was bumper a 1999 and up superduty wins in my heart, I do like the looks of those year Dodges |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 10:00:18 PM EDT
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thank god, we were all sitting here waiting for you to finally figure it out!!! :) Dodge, because im loyal to the brand and havent been let down with a Cummins yet! Not yet!! I hear the new Auto's Aison with the Cummins are totally SICK ASS!!! as in bad ass. |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 10:29:41 PM EDT
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1. I run 315/35s on my stock '00 2500 4wd, Dad runs 255/33s on his stock '96 2500 4wd - no need for a lift. 2. How are you running the trutrac in the front? I was under the impression the ARB was the only viable option for the CAD axle - granted I haven't really researched it. Brian |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 10:42:07 PM EDT
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Abso-fucking-lutley! www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMrqsnK0eh8 PS Top Gear is hilarious. |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 11:01:41 PM EDT
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I have a 1500, I run a truetrack in the rear. It is kinda like a quaife. There are too many terms out there, but this is what I am talking about. www.eatonperformance.com/differentials/Detroit-Truetrac.html Its torque biasing, meaning that as long as you have both tires with some grip, it will bias towards the tire with the most grip. BMW IIRC came up with the idea way back when. Its very popular in road racing. I don't know if they make one for the Dana 60 or not. A detroit in the front with lock outs might be better for some people, but I do like the truetrac for snow and whatnot. It is a pain to install unless you need it, but hey, in a perfect world.  Edit, CAD axle? arent they running regular low pinion dana 60s in the front? |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 11:12:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2007 11:21:08 PM EDT
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The toyota hilux or the deuce and half...no other options if I were buying a diesel.
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Posted: 4/19/2007 11:32:58 PM EDT
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No. Dodge in their infinite wisdom, decided to use the weakest Dana 60 they couldd find, the CAD (Central Axle Disconnect) Axle. You can buy a kit to replace the CAD parts but you are still left with a crappy ball joint Dana 60 with odd parts. I found it MUCH cheaper to convert it to a Ford Kingpin Dana 60 and have the Dodge coil brackets welded on. You get a high-pinion Dana 60 with REAL bearings and REAL hubs. |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 11:35:35 PM EDT
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Unimog |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 11:41:46 PM EDT
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I am curious about them but know next to nothing about them. I'm willing to add a unimog to the short list if they're worth it. |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 11:54:27 PM EDT
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I'd by a POS 1000 dollar used vehicle, spend 2k in fixing it ro reliable running order myself and spend 7k on guns and ammo.
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Posted: 4/20/2007 12:01:23 AM EDT
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And you'd need every penny of that 4K for the fuel... 
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Posted: 4/20/2007 12:44:08 AM EDT
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They're slow, like '60s VW busses will be passing you on the freeway slow. Other than that they're great vehicles...really tough to beat off road. With a $10K budget a cummins with a stick is really the only choice, it's a shame there aren't more options in the US market. Buddy of mine has a '69 powerwagon 4X4 with a ten ton logging winch on the PTO, with a cummins 24v he got at a wrecking yard, think he's into it about $10K, it's pretty sweet. One of these days I'm going to build up an old 2-ton flatbed and drop a cummins in it. |
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Posted: 4/20/2007 1:10:25 AM EDT
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I just did that. '93 diesel chevy-$750 Fixing it -$1000 Not having a truck payment and shooting my new AR-50 priceless |
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Posted: 4/20/2007 9:47:04 AM EDT
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Good to know... I wonder if the early 94-5 Rams were CAD too, or whether they were like the old Power Wagons. |
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Posted: 4/20/2007 9:56:50 AM EDT
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Since GM is out of the question, and I would prefer GM out of the other 2, I will suggest Dodge because the Cummins is a good engine. My uncle drives an 05 CTD six-speed crew cab 1 ton.
The others have spoken the praises of the late model Dodge and I own page 2. |
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Posted: 4/23/2007 11:19:13 AM EDT
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I will narrow it right down for you: A 1997 Dodge Ram with the Cummins 6BT 12v, NV4500 5 speed manual transmission, Dana 80 rear, and a Dana 60 front will bring the most bang for 10,000 bucks.
Why not a 96? No hydroboost brake system. Why not a 98? Redesigned interior and Quad Cab and shortbed options make them considerably more expensive. Why not a Ford? 7.3 is rated as a light duty engine, harder to get more performance from, doesn't have anywhere near the reputation for reliability, durability, and longevity of the Cummins, parts are more expensive, etc. |
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