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Posted: 4/19/2007 11:18:27 AM EDT
its on druge
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:19:22 AM EDT
[#1]
friggin defeatist Dems.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:23:42 AM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:24:18 AM EDT
[#4]
It would have helped if we'd had a plan to win it in the first place.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:24:36 AM EDT
[#5]
I'm disgusted.  Too disgusted to comment.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:25:08 AM EDT
[#6]

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It would have helped if we'd had a plan to win it in the first place.


You mean like we had a plan in Bosnia?  Kosovo?  
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:27:05 AM EDT
[#7]
How can we lose a war for which success or failure have not been defined?  Without having set goals it's impossible to know whether we've won or lost.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:27:08 AM EDT
[#8]
Last I checked our leader was not only still alive but he was re-elected.

Last I checked Saddam was hung after being drug out a hole and given a fair trial (which is more than he EVER did for anyone in his country).

It appears as though Saddam and his boys lost.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:27:58 AM EDT
[#9]
Unfortunately, it'll take a nuke in a US city to create a few more weeks of public support.

/Gotta go to the mall.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:29:57 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Unfortunately, it'll take a nuke in a US city to create a few more weeks of public support.

/Gotta go to the mall.


That sums it up.



Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:32:52 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Last I checked our leader was not only still alive but he was re-elected.

Last I checked Saddam was hung after being drug out a hole and given a fair trial (which is more than he EVER did for anyone in his country).

It appears as though Saddam and his boys lost.


Yep.

The three of them are burning in Hell.  Along with lots and lots of terrorists.

Looks like they lost to me.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:33:12 AM EDT
[#12]
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:33:13 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Unfortunately, it'll take a nuke in a US city to create a few more weeks of public support.

/Gotta go to the mall.


That sums it up.





Sad but true.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:35:48 AM EDT
[#14]
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:37:31 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Unfortunately, it'll take a nuke in a US city to create a few more weeks of public support.

/Gotta go to the mall.


Most concise summation of the whole damn thing I've seen so far.  
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:37:33 AM EDT
[#16]

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THE FACE OF THE ENEMY

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Oh it gets better.

IRANIAN MEDIA
link


US has lost war in Iraq: US Democrat

Leader of the Democratic majority in the US Congress, Harry Reid, has said the US has lost the Iraq war, and Bush's troop surge has failed.

"I believe ... that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week," Reid stated.

The same comments were made to President Bush when he had convened with senior lawmakers to persuade them to pass the emergency war funding bill.

Congress is trying to confine the war spending bill to a timetable for the removal of troops from Iraq.

Reid's comments came a day after 200 fatalities were reported in bombings in Iraq, despite a much touted US Security Plan which the White House said sought to root out insurgency.



Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:44:55 AM EDT
[#17]
If the military doesnt have the correct financial and politcal support than bring em home. No point in dragging it out if we arent going to play to win.

It's a shame it is like this, but once again a war waged by politicians and political correctness have made victory impossible
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:46:05 AM EDT
[#18]
I can't believe its this easy for jihadists to manipulate our government!  
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:49:03 AM EDT
[#19]
Hey your not looking at the bright side of this!! cheap milspec ammo!! Cheap ammo is going to make a return!! w00t!!
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:52:01 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Hey your not looking at the bright side of this!! cheap milspec ammo!! Cheap ammo is going to make a return!! w00t!!


+1
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:54:21 AM EDT
[#21]
also look at the fact that there are only aprox.10k terrorists in Iraq

compare that to 90 million gun owners. draw your own conclusions
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:57:40 AM EDT
[#22]
We will need it.  Once the troops are out of the sand box, guess where the fight will come too?  

Our back yard.  Once the DEMs have full power, our military will be drastically cut.  We will be open to IED's on Main Street.


Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:58:05 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
If the military doesnt have the correct financial and politcal support than bring em home. No point in dragging it out if we arent going to play to win.

It's a shame it is like this, but once again a war waged by politicians and political correctness have made victory impossible


Yup, military might is not enough to 'win' a war that is political like this one.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:58:33 AM EDT
[#24]
I would like to declare that the violence this weeks proves that the United States has lost the war in the South. Union troops should begin withdrawing from the occupied territories immediately and let the people of the Confederate States solve their own problems.

Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:59:23 AM EDT
[#25]
Sunnova Bitch....these Dems are absolutely traitorous and I despise them.  I never thought a group of people could be that clueless but they are.

The only hope we have is '08....and that's it.

HH
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:59:25 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
I can't believe its this easy for jihadists to manipulate our government!  

Oh, believe it. It was fairly easy for communists to "manipulate" liberals back during Cold War I as well.

You know they're sitting over there laughing their asses off.

One thing you can be sure of is that they have known the Achilles heel of elected forms of government for some time. They know that these governments come and go, they're transient. They also know that if you wait and prod around a little an inordinate number of complete incompetents and traitors will be elected.

The Islamofacists are evil, but they're not stupid. They're doing exactly what I would be doing if I was in their shoes. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are worth nearly as much, maybe more, to the enemy than nuclear or biological weapons.

Link Posted: 4/19/2007 11:59:30 AM EDT
[#27]
Treason plain and simple.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:01:27 PM EDT
[#28]
well while we are at it ...I would like to declare the PNW to now be the state of Jefferson, free and independant....that is all , thank you
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:03:03 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
It was a lost cause after the last congressional election.


Yes it was.  This perfectly fits the dire predictions that I and others provided should the defeatists regain power in congress.

I personally witnessed the same shit 40 years ago...although from my perspective, I had NO idea what was transpiring.  (I was deployed to Vietnam in '66 and '68-'69.)

The sons and daughters of the useful idiots for Ho and Giap are now the useful idiots for Achmedinijhad, Mooky al Sadr, Assad and Kim.

This is a sad day my friends...my worst nightmares are coming true about the future of our great nation.  Those who would destroy it to create their utopian socialist state are having successes far beyond their wildest dreams now...and WE are to blame.

Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:05:06 PM EDT
[#30]
And the DNC reaction to IEDs on American streets will be MORE GUN CONTROL - more government intrusion into our lives.... they don't despise the Patriot Act because it means more .gov oversight, they despise it because Bush is in charge. If they were running the show, they'd be using those warrantless searches on all their domestic enemies, just to settle old scores.

Yes, they are that petty, that mean, and that hypocritical. It happened to most pro-life groups in the 1990's when Janet Reno ran the show. People got audited, 'interviewed' and harrassed for years. Some slapped with RICO lawsuits for the 'crime' of standing on public sidewalks protesting effectively. WHEN THEY DO IT, IT'S OK, just don't do the very same thing for a conservative cause!

For liberals and their agenda, sad to say, almost no amount of terrorism (apart from nukes) really affects their lives or their goals - indeed, they help them by giving them excuse to increase power and disarm the population.

No, for them, the REAL enemies to their agenda goals are conservative voters and conservative groups - thus McCain-Feingold, and Judicial end runs around legislation and other insanities intended to insulate their agenda from the voters.

Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:05:16 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
I'm disgusted.  Too disgusted to comment.


+1 brother.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:09:03 PM EDT
[#32]
How in the world can people like that who never EVER did one damn thing to ever show SUPPORT or HELP us win this war have ANY credibility to declare that we LOST this war?

How in the world can people like that who did everything in their power to undercut the war - from before it even began and then incessantly ever since - how in the world can these backstabbing, hamstringing, morale-cutting, defeat-preaching, enemy-enabling, insurgent-supporting TRAITORS who have clearly and openly sided with the terrorists in Iraq by constantly parroting their political talking-points for four years now - HOW in the world can these seditious Cut-And-Run cowards have any credibility to speak for THIS nation when they've done EVERYTHING in their power for the past four years to block, trip-up, immoblize, hand-cuff, accuse, harrass and condemn our own troops with the most nonstop, vicious, vile and treasonous lies and attacks about them and this war.... HOW in the world are these people-shaped pus-buckets even able to walk around freely let alone actually be elected LEADERS of the United States Congress like this during a time of war instead of being thrown in jail and then executed for treason????

WTF kind of country are we living in!?

Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:09:50 PM EDT
[#33]
Wow, 4 years and death toll less than 5,000 and we lost(according to the Dems)

I give us less than 6 months in a fight with a real military before the dems call for a surrender.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:15:52 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
We will need it.  Once the troops are out of the sand box, guess where the fight will come too?  


I've never quite understood this logic.  Do you really think Al Qaeda is thinking to themselves "Gee, we'd really like to go set off some bombs in Chicago, but we're just too damn busy in Iraq."?  Wouldn't the BEST time to attack America be at a time when many of the people who would normally be first responders are off fighting in Iraq?

I agree that we are fighting people in Iraq who are bad, and many of them are foreign fighters who came to Iraq to fight the invading Americans, but this doesn't necessarily imply that the bad people we are worried about are too busy or lack resources to plan another attack.  It isn't as if these guys aren't patient...
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:18:26 PM EDT
[#35]
Any Constitutional Law experts out there?  When does when does that wingnut, Harry Reid become guilty of treason, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, in time of war?

CFL, out...
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:20:46 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
We will need it.  Once the troops are out of the sand box, guess where the fight will come too?  


I've never quite understood this logic.  Do you really think Al Qaeda is thinking to themselves "Gee, we'd really like to go set off some bombs in Chicago, but we're just too damn busy in Iraq."?  Wouldn't the BEST time to attack America be at a time when many of the people who would normally be first responders are off fighting in Iraq?

I agree that we are fighting people in Iraq who are bad, and many of them are foreign fighters who came to Iraq to fight the invading Americans, but this doesn't necessarily imply that the bad people we are worried about are too busy or lack resources to plan another attack.  It isn't as if these guys aren't patient...


True, they are perfectly capable of operating on both fronts.  They have to sneak in their more educated and mainstream members, while their masses of radical warrior jihadis are over there engaging in firefights.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:20:48 PM EDT
[#37]
Pelosi in the mid-east sucking cock not more than a week ago (with plans to return soon) and Reid comes out with this right after?  

Jesus H. Christ how can ANYBODY have their heads so far up their ass that they can't see what's taking place?  The Democrats have become the defacto foreign policy makers.  Maybe not drawing up and signing treaties (yet), but they're running around acting like they're calling the shots.

The sheeple will eat this shit up, as the Dems will tout that they're "doing something constructive" and the sheep will vote "D" next year becase of it.

In an earlier time these traitors would have been tared, feathered, arrested, tried and hung in the town square.  Now they smile and hold press conferences to inform the sheeple of their latest fucking over of our nation and the Constitution.

I can't even begin to put into words the white-hot rage that burns inside me over this.  


Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:21:03 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
Any Constitutional Law experts out there?  When does when does that wingnut, Harry Reid become guilty of treason, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, in time of war?


He doesn't.  There has to be a real mechanism in American politics by which you can discuss whether to continue a war or not without commiting treason.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:22:20 PM EDT
[#39]
ANybody got that POS's e-mail addy?  I think I have a few things to say to whoever reads his e-mails.  

 Oh yeah HARRY FUCK YOU IN THE ASS YOUR TREASONOUS POS.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 12:22:37 PM EDT
[#40]
Well, he's right...NOW!!!

The media is going to loop this statement 24x7x52 until the fifth column gets it's way.

I've never heard of a leader declaring defeat before.

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