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Posted: 6/18/2007 1:42:19 PM EDT
I'm not really all that sad and I knew something was coming (i had my $hit all boxed up)
But their cause for termination was actually one of the few things I didn't do.
F*cking floors me, lots of reasons, but this was one of the few things I actually didn't do. I f*cking hate HR pricks.
F'em
Guess my side business better take off.

I was really hoping to get laid off though, that part does suck.

I hate corporate america, I'm not going back.
I'd rather starve under a bridge than go back to being a wage slave.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:43:35 PM EDT
Sorry to hear it man.

Good luck getting back on your feet.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:43:59 PM EDT
Yes, corporate Amerika sucks. I hope they rot in hell.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:44:29 PM EDT
Sometimes that's what it takes to move on as person or in your career.

ANd you're right, corp america is BS.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:46:42 PM EDT
What was the reason for termination that was BS?
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:47:05 PM EDT
I feel for ya.

I got canned many years ago for something I didn't do. The corporate assholes from the company lied their ass off and prevented me from getting unemployment for 3 months. When it came time for the unemployment appeal, the fuckers didn't show, so the whole thing was dropped and I got the unemployment.

I wonder how things would be if the laws were written to protect the employees...instead of the employers?
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:49:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VACaver:
I feel for ya.

I got canned many years ago for something I didn't do. The corporate assholes from the company lied their ass off and prevented me from getting unemployment for 3 months. When it came time for the unemployment appeal, the fuckers didn't show, so the whole thing was dropped and I got the unemployment.

I wonder how things would be if the laws were written to protect the employees...instead of the employers?


Just look at Kalifornia, New York, or New Jersey.

I think I'll keep my guns and go into business for myself.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:51:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By khaos1985:
What was the reason for termination that was BS?


Ya, no doubt. What was the reason? Its like a carrot hanging out there.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:52:04 PM EDT
If you wanna jack off at work, be a porn star.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:52:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By khaos1985:
What was the reason for termination that was BS?


They said I had told some people that their plant (they worked for me) that it was closing. I never told them.
It's pretty f*cking obvious and people just put rumors together.
And fo course, I asked the bitch HR rep if she asked the people who I could have told and she just went off on these long BS explanation about we had an invesgitation, blah blah blah, which of course means No.

F*ck em.
I'm moving on.
Going to give this business a go and see if I can make it pay enough, I've been settting it up for a year, just another 3 months would have been nice. oh well.

But I really want a beer.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:53:37 PM EDT
File for unemployment and try to enjoy your semi-paid vacation.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:53:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:

Originally Posted By khaos1985:
What was the reason for termination that was BS?


They said I had told some people that their plant (they worked for me) that it was closing. I never told them.
It's pretty f*cking obvious and people just put rumors together.
And fo course, I asked the bitch HR rep if she asked the people who I could have told and she just went off on these long BS explanation about we had an invesgitation, blah blah blah, which of course means No.

F*ck em.
I'm moving on.
Going to give this business a go and see if I can make it pay enough, I've been settting it up for a year, just another 3 months would have been nice. oh well.

But I really want a beer.


Hey look at it this way...7 day weekend.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:54:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Granola:

Hey look at it this way...7 day weekend.



That hits a funny bone for some reason.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:54:47 PM EDT
You can do it.......yes ...you can do it....
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:55:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:
Going to give this business a go and see if I can make it pay enough, I've been settting it up for a year, just another 3 months would have been nice. oh well.

But I really want a beer.

Now you're the boss, drink beer when you want to.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:55:44 PM EDT
Roll with it and work on your business. It's the best thing you can do.

They may have done you a big favor and given you the opportunity to find real success, instead of just working for someone else.

Good luck getting your biz rolling.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:56:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VACaver:

I wonder how things would be if the laws were written to protect the employees...instead of the employers?



Are you SERIOUS????? Try being an employer. See how you feel then.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:57:01 PM EDT
Sorry to hear it man. Good luck on your new venture. I hope the best for ya.

As far as the assholes who canned you go, just remember this little tidbit of wisdom from my favorite band, Kamelot, in their song "Karma"...

"All the things you do in life come back to you."

They'll get what's coming to them... someday in some way they'll reap from the seads they sewed.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 1:59:02 PM EDT
Hang in there and be prepared for the ups-n-downs over the next several weeks. Some days are better than others! (Been there w/ ya')



Work hard....for yourself!!!



Lex
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:09:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/18/2007 2:09:44 PM EDT by MAT-49]
Best luck to you.

I am sure that you quit before those @$$holes fired you.

"I retire." [scarface]
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:09:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:13:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paul:

Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:

Just look at Kalifornia, New York, or New Jersey.

I think I'll keep my guns and go into business for myself.




This is a right to work state. You can be fired for any reason under the sun except for those restrictions imposed by the federal government. Boss doesn't like the color of your eyes ... you're fired. Except with the job market booming employees are looking hard for qualified folk.


At will.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:13:54 PM EDT
Best of luck. I hope your side biz goes well, its alot of work, but if you can be the best of the best, you can do it. My old boss was in the same boat you are now 7 years ago, he is doing quite well.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:17:24 PM EDT
Sorry to hear....but its just a fact that an employer can make up any BS excuse to get rid of someone when they don't want you anymore.

While that isn't always the case, its very common place.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:21:42 PM EDT
I ever leave the job I'm at for whatever reason, I will never work for some else again.

I'm sick of making other people rich.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:22:40 PM EDT
I've had to go through this myself first-hand, as well as recently second-hand (hell, THAT case concluded just today, as a matter of fact).

It sucks all around, but it all depends how you roll with it. In both the cases above, we discovered it was the best thing that could have happened to us.

Good luck and keep the faith.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:22:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/18/2007 2:23:45 PM EDT by acegunner]
yep,

in tennessee you can be fired for anything at all except not doing something illegal. it is a free fire state.

collect unemployement

ETA: pg 2 is mine
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:24:13 PM EDT
Have the beer and give your business your all so it can succeed
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:24:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:

Originally Posted By khaos1985:
What was the reason for termination that was BS?


They said I had told some people that their plant (they worked for me) that it was closing. I never told them.
It's pretty f*cking obvious and people just put rumors together.
And fo course, I asked the bitch HR rep if she asked the people who I could have told and she just went off on these long BS explanation about we had an invesgitation, blah blah blah, which of course means No.

F*ck em.
I'm moving on.
Going to give this business a go and see if I can make it pay enough, I've been settting it up for a year, just another 3 months would have been nice. oh well.

But I really want a beer.
If you did get laid off instead, would they have to pay you a severance? I have a feeling these (mis)management assholes were just trying to save a few bucks.

I think you have grounds for a legitimate lawsuit. But only you can decide if that's what you want to pursue.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:29:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/18/2007 2:31:10 PM EDT by BozemanMT]
They don't have to pay anything (colorado is an at will state).
But the last couple years, layoffs have always been about 12 weeks of pay (3 months)
I was hoping to get laid off, guess that didn't work.

BTW, you can't collect unemployment if you are "fired for cause", they'll fight it. Laid off, you can collect. (at least here in Colo, may be different in other states)

Besides, I have a job, I've got my own business.

And, the phone rang between posts here, so I've got some more work booked this week.

We shall see, I've been building towards this, as I said, for a year. Almost no debt, extra cash, and lots of ads running.
It's got to be better, got to be.

Besides, there was plenty of $hit for them to fire me over, just not what they actually did. (like, for example, it's a good thing they didn't look in the top of my lunch box, might have violated one of their workplace polices, if you know what I mean )
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:29:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/18/2007 2:30:25 PM EDT by Beltfed]

Originally Posted By HKArch:
If you did get laid off instead, would they have to pay you a severance?


Generally, if a company liked you.....but would like to see you go or has to let you go.

Getting laidoff is the nice thing to do and pay you a severence..2 weeks, a month, 2 months, etc.


But I don't think paying severence is a must do.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:31:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:
I hate corporate america, I'm not going back.
I'd rather starve under a bridge than go back to being a wage slave.


I've heard that before, so I took the advice and have my own business fixing sprinklers. You should try it.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:34:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paul:

Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:

Just look at Kalifornia, New York, or New Jersey.

I think I'll keep my guns and go into business for myself.




This is a right to work state. You can be fired for any reason under the sun except for those restrictions imposed by the federal government. Boss doesn't like the color of your eyes ... you're fired. Except with the job market booming employees are looking hard for qualified folk.


Right to work actually has nothing to to with the conditions under which you can be fired, or whether or not you are subject to non-compete agreements (another common misconception). "Right to work" means that you can take a job in a shop organized by a union but you don't have to join the union.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:35:21 PM EDT
Well Boz,
Looking at your name, I am making an assumption at where you are from. You know when Fall semester starts at MSU there will br lots of jobs opening in Boze-berg. I have been trying to get back there (ok, the whole stste) for a year now. Just no jobs that I want to do!
I wish you luck man!
-Mills
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:40:23 PM EDT
Good luck. I nearly got steamrolled by the asshole HR/asshole management machine. Not fun.

I have said it before, I will say it again, HR "people" are god damned parasites that do nothing but justify their paycheck by F**king up the works wherever they can.

They (my management and HR) enjoyed trying to break me. They ignored years of good performance reviews from my previous manager. They could have made up some BS to can me but that wasn't enough. The only reason I can see them doing this was out of pure maliciousness. They set goals they knew I couldn't make, they said I was no good and would never be an Engineer.

They were wrong.

Went for a technician interview at my current company, got an Engineering position offered to me. Enjoy my work and am doing well.

Hang in there, it will all turn out.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:43:32 PM EDT
While I feel bad for you, our country would be no where without "corporate America."
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:46:53 PM EDT
Good luck in your new endeavors.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 2:55:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:08:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:
They don't have to pay anything (colorado is an at will state).
But the last couple years, layoffs have always been about 12 weeks of pay (3 months)
I was hoping to get laid off, guess that didn't work.

BTW, you can't collect unemployment if you are "fired for cause", they'll fight it. Laid off, you can collect. (at least here in Colo, may be different in other states)

Besides, I have a job, I've got my own business.

And, the phone rang between posts here, so I've got some more work booked this week.

We shall see, I've been building towards this, as I said, for a year. Almost no debt, extra cash, and lots of ads running.
It's got to be better, got to be.

Besides, there was plenty of $hit for them to fire me over, just not what they actually did. (like, for example, it's a good thing they didn't look in the top of my lunch box, might have violated one of their workplace polices, if you know what I mean )
The Worm Has Turned for you Brother!!!!!!!!!! RUN WITH IT!!!!!!!!!! and GOOD LUCK
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:17:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/18/2007 3:22:00 PM EDT by VACaver]

Originally Posted By v8unleashed:

Originally Posted By VACaver:

I wonder how things would be if the laws were written to protect the employees...instead of the employers?



Are you SERIOUS????? Try being an employer. See how you feel then.


Yes, I'm serious. I have seen firsthand many cases where an employee was fired by a lying employer, with the employer never having to provide proof of the supposed actions of the employee that resulted in the firing. Sorry, but the Unemployment Office is gonna side with the employer is almost every case.

I've actually heard the owner of a company say he would do whatever it takes to fight a former employee over receiving unemployment.

Being an "At will" state basically means we can say and do whatever we want to you and there's nothing you can do about it.

That's fucked.

Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:20:14 PM EDT
Sorry to hear Bozeman. Hoping for the best.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:23:35 PM EDT
Rumor mills are the worst. My last company got taken over and the first thing the new boys told us, "don't feed the rumor mill". I never did. What they do? Fire everyone and plans to move the company south of the border. Great. Critical heat transfer components made for the US aircraft such as F-35, F-22, Longbow, F/A-18 are gonna be made outside of the USA.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:28:31 PM EDT
You are not your fucking khakis.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:33:06 PM EDT
Sorry, about that.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:48:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:
Besides, there was plenty of $hit for them to fire me over, just not what they actually did. (like, for example, it's a good thing they didn't look in the top of my lunch box, might have violated one of their workplace polices, if you know what I mean )



So you are a thief as well? Sounds like they did the right thing. Just remember that when you get ripped off.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:52:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ar15_rifleman:

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:
Besides, there was plenty of $hit for them to fire me over, just not what they actually did. (like, for example, it's a good thing they didn't look in the top of my lunch box, might have violated one of their workplace polices, if you know what I mean )



So you are a thief as well? Sounds like they did the right thing. Just remember that when you get ripped off.


no dumba$$
we're on a gun board, think!!!!!
Starts with a G, ends with a 19

Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:53:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:

Originally Posted By ar15_rifleman:

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:
Besides, there was plenty of $hit for them to fire me over, just not what they actually did. (like, for example, it's a good thing they didn't look in the top of my lunch box, might have violated one of their workplace polices, if you know what I mean )



So you are a thief as well? Sounds like they did the right thing. Just remember that when you get ripped off.


no dumba$$
we're on a gun board, think!!!!!
Starts with a G, ends with a 19



You stole a G19


Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:55:42 PM EDT
Bummer, have that beer and best of luck with your venture!
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:57:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:

Originally Posted By khaos1985:
What was the reason for termination that was BS?


They said I had told some people that their plant (they worked for me) that it was closing. I never told them.
It's pretty f*cking obvious and people just put rumors together.
And fo course, I asked the bitch HR rep if she asked the people who I could have told and she just went off on these long BS explanation about we had an invesgitation, blah blah blah, which of course means No.

F*ck em.
I'm moving on.
Going to give this business a go and see if I can make it pay enough, I've been settting it up for a year, just another 3 months would have been nice. oh well.

But I really want a beer.


file for unemployment tomorrow. If denied, you can appeal. When your notified of the appeal request the judge to supena your records and include the investigation.
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 3:59:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ar15_rifleman:

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:
Besides, there was plenty of $hit for them to fire me over, just not what they actually did. (like, for example, it's a good thing they didn't look in the top of my lunch box, might have violated one of their workplace polices, if you know what I mean )



So you are a thief as well? Sounds like they did the right thing. Just remember that when you get ripped off.


You have no imagination whatsoever do you? He might have been hinting he might have had a gun in his box! AS opossed to takeing a GMC out one piece at a time!

Bob
Link Posted: 6/18/2007 4:00:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:

Originally Posted By ar15_rifleman:

Originally Posted By BozemanMT:
Besides, there was plenty of $hit for them to fire me over, just not what they actually did. (like, for example, it's a good thing they didn't look in the top of my lunch box, might have violated one of their workplace polices, if you know what I mean )



So you are a thief as well? Sounds like they did the right thing. Just remember that when you get ripped off.


no dumba$$
we're on a gun board, think!!!!!
Starts with a G, ends with a 19






In that case, carry on. FYI..Apply for unemployment anyway. If they are smart they will let it go.
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