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Posted: 11/28/2007 2:58:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2007 2:59:02 PM EDT by Max_Mike]
The wrong people...



Come on Paul supporters get behind this ticket.

www.cleveland.com/plaindealer/stories/index.ssf?/base/ispol/119606955056620.xml&coll=2


Kucinich suggests a Republican running mate
Monday, November 26, 2007
Sabrina Eaton and Stephen Koff
Plain Dealer Washington Bureau

Acworth, N.H. -- Call it the liberal-libertarian ticket, where left meets right and Democrat Dennis Kucinich picks Republican Ron Paul to be his vice president.

Kucinich, the Cleveland congressman running in a longshot bid to become president, suggested it himself Sunday.

"I'm thinking about Ron Paul" as a running mate, Kucinich told a crowd of about 70 supporters at a house party here, one of numerous stops throughout New Hampshire over the Thanksgiving weekend. A Kucinich-Paul administration could bring people together "to balance the energies in this country," Kucinich said. Advertisement

It would create a stunning, if dizzying, blend of beliefs, wedding two politicians who hold different views on abortion rights, the role of government in providing health care, and the use of government in fostering -- or hampering -- the public's greater good. Those are among the reasons it would never work, said a spokesman for Paul, a Texas congressman and doctor.

"Dr. Paul and Rep. Kucinich are friends and there is a lot of mutual respect," Paul communications director Jesse Benton said in an e-mail when asked whether a running-mate spot on the Kucinich ticket would be attractive to Paul. "They have worked, and will continue to work, together on ending the war and protecting civil liberties.

"However, Ron wants to substantially cut the size and scope of the federal government. There are too many differences on issues such as taxes and spending to think a joint ticket would be possible."

Kucinich and Paul are gadflies to their parties' establishments. Kucinich challenges Democrats to stop cozying up to corporate interests, while Paul challenges Republicans to shed the trappings of big government.

Both frequently cite the Constitution as providing the authority for their agendas. Paul never votes for legislation unless the measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution, his campaign says. Kucinich keeps a pocket-size copy of the Constitution handy, taking it out to invoke its authority over such proposals as the impeachment of Vice President Cheney, one of Kucinich's signature issues.

Speculation of a Kucinich-Paul ticket has surfaced on the Internet, where it also has been shot down. But Kucinich's wife, Elizabeth, did not dismiss it when asked about it after a recent Democratic candidates' debate in Las Vegas. Speaking to the Web site RawVegasTV, she called Paul "a great truth-teller," adding that Paul has "voted 100 percent right on the war."

On Sunday, her husband said, "Think of how you could unite the country, having a Democrat and a Republican on the ticket."
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:02:59 PM EDT
Talk about a Tinfoil fest
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:07:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:12:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.
Seriously, the differences between the two hardly exist.
I will continue to state, ron paul running as an independent would be the best possible outcome for the republicans.


Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:13:49 PM EDT
Exclusive audio?

That article was posted in the blog section too!

I call BS.

Anything come from a reputable source?
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:14:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.
Seriously, the differences between the two hardly exist.
I will continue to state, ron paul running as an independent would be the best possible outcome for the republicans.


roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg


How the f**k can a guy like that get a chick like her?
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:15:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.
Seriously, the differences between the two hardly exist.
I will continue to state, ron paul running as an independent would be the best possible outcome for the republicans.


roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg


her hand looks freaky
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:15:52 PM EDT
Yea, I can hear the ticket now..........
The Off Brothers....... Jerk & Jack.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:15:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mmx1:
Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.
Seriously, the differences between the two hardly exist.
I will continue to state, ron paul running as an independent would be the best possible outcome for the republicans.


roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg[/quote

NO WAY! She is hawt!

...that cheeky little bastard...
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:21:21 PM EDT
They are both batshit crazy. So they'd make a good pair.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:23:33 PM EDT
Yeah right, David Duke of the KKK could run as president and pick FDT as his running mate, would that mean anything?
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:25:26 PM EDT
Paul has already said he will not not be anyone's VP, it would require him to compromise his values.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:28:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gorias:
Paul has already said he will not not be anyone's VP, it would require him to compromise his values.


He does not have to worry about being anyones VP nor the President. The closest he's gotten to it is a pic with RR.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:30:21 PM EDT
I can see it now.....

Kucinich-President
Paul-VP
Yoko Ono-Secretary of "Peace"
Johnny "Jihad" Walker Lindh-Secretary of State
John "The Spy" Pollard-Director of CIA
Dan Rather-Whitehouse Communications Director
Barbara Streisand-Asshole in General
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:30:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By Gorias:
Paul has already said he will not not be anyone's VP, it would require him to compromise his values.


He does not have to worry about being anyones VP nor the President. The closest he's gotten to it is a pic with RR.


Yes yes, we already know how the rank and file here feel about him, I have never quite understood it, but to each there own.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:31:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Yeah right, David Duke of the KKK could run as president and pick FDT as his running mate, would that mean anything?


That was a really bad example to use because…

David Duke of the KKK supports Ron Paul, has endorsed him, and is raising money for him.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:34:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GunnerHogan1:
I can see it now.....

Kucinich-President
Paul-VP
Yoko Ono-Secretary of "Peace"
Johnny "Jihad" Walker Lindh-Secretary of State
John "The Spy" Pollard-Director of CIA
Dan Rather-Whitehouse Communications Director
Barbara Streisand-Asshole in General





Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:37:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Yeah right, David Duke of the KKK could run as president and pick FDT as his running mate, would that mean anything?


That was a really bad example to use because…

David Duke of the KKK supports Ron Paul, has endorsed him, and is raising money for him.




Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:37:56 PM EDT
I think any of the front runners on the Republican side would do fine--it's those shifty creeps with their Jackass logo that will open the portal of hell and lead this country right on in.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:38:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By swede1986:

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.
Seriously, the differences between the two hardly exist.
I will continue to state, ron paul running as an independent would be the best possible outcome for the republicans.


roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg


How the f**k can a guy like that get a chick like her?
Perhaps there's more to the man than meets the eye?
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:40:53 PM EDT
And who are you getting behind, another Clinton-Bush figurehead?

State your position and lay it out for all to see before taking cheap shots at someone else.

A Paul/Kucinich ticket won't happen and you're wasting bandwith.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:41:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2007 3:47:22 PM EDT by wise_jake]
Two points, Mike, if you can name Paul's most likely running mate.

Hint: He was a judge and a lot of arfcommers have a high opinion of him.


ETA: Until now, I bet.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:46:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Yeah right, David Duke of the KKK could run as president and pick FDT as his running mate, would that mean anything?

That was a really bad example to use because…

David Duke of the KKK supports Ron Paul, has endorsed him, and is raising money for him.

Is "David Duke of the KKK" running for president? No. It was an example. Meaning it was illustrative of a point.

It's like putting a number in place of a variable for the slow kids who don't understand what business substitute values like 'x' and 'y' have being in a mathematical equation.

Here, let me try to re-arrange it for you:

Barack Obama could run for president and consider aloud in public the prospect of FDT as his running mate. Would that mean anything?
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:46:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wise_jake:
Two points, Mike, if you can name Paul's most likely running mate.

Hint: He was a judge and a lot of arfcommers have a high opinion of him.


Judge Judy....

<­BR>

or maybe Andrew Napolitano
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:48:09 PM EDT
Damn, you got me before my edit (see above). But you're correct with Napo.

Two points.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:49:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:53:24 PM EDT
Ron paul owns pg2.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 3:53:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wise_jake:
Two points, Mike, if you can name Paul's most likely running mate.

Hint: He was a judge and a lot of arfcommers have a high opinion of him.


ETA: Until now, I bet.



Please tell me you are kidding.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 6:25:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Yeah right, David Duke of the KKK could run as president and pick FDT as his running mate, would that mean anything?


That was a really bad example to use because…

David Duke of the KKK supports Ron Paul, has endorsed him, and is raising money for him.


I hear Knox Pooley is endorsing Fred Thompson, as well....
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 10:38:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By wise_jake:
Two points, Mike, if you can name Paul's most likely running mate.

Hint: He was a judge and a lot of arfcommers have a high opinion of him.


ETA: Until now, I bet.

Please tell me you are kidding.

About what?
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 10:40:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fingerpicker:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Yeah right, David Duke of the KKK could run as president and pick FDT as his running mate, would that mean anything?

That was a really bad example to use because…

David Duke of the KKK supports Ron Paul, has endorsed him, and is raising money for him.

I hear Knox Pooley is endorsing Fred Thompson, as well....

That right there is funny.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 10:42:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.




I think she looks like Rocky Dennis.
Link Posted: 11/28/2007 10:59:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.


Is she hot?
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 4:58:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wise_jake:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By wise_jake:
Two points, Mike, if you can name Paul's most likely running mate.

Hint: He was a judge and a lot of arfcommers have a high opinion of him.


ETA: Until now, I bet.

Please tell me you are kidding.

About what?


Judge Andrew Naplitano
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 5:51:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fishngrits:

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.

roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg

I think she looks like Rocky Dennis.

Not sure about that particular pic, but that is without a doubt absolutely the worst picture of her I've ever seen.

I think I've admitted to wanting to spite-fuck her before, but that pic gives me pause.
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 5:54:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By wise_jake:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By wise_jake:
Two points, Mike, if you can name Paul's most likely running mate.

Hint: He was a judge and a lot of arfcommers have a high opinion of him.


ETA: Until now, I bet.

Please tell me you are kidding.

About what?

Judge Andrew Naplitano

Are you kidding now?

The Judge
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 6:01:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gorias:
Paul has already said he will not not be anyone's VP, it would require him to compromise his values.





The same values that allowed him to get into bed with the white supremecy crowd, the Cindy Sheehan crowd, the freedom "dollar" scam crowd..............?

Those values?
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 6:46:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/29/2007 6:47:25 AM EDT by LoginName]

Originally Posted By swede1986:

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.
Seriously, the differences between the two hardly exist.
I will continue to state, ron paul running as an independent would be the best possible outcome for the republicans.


roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg


How the f**k can a guy like that get a chick like her?


<George Costanza> Wow, … god! You see this is all I think about. Sleeping with a giant. It's my life's ambition. </George Costanza>


As a couple, they remind me of Rocky and Bullwinkle... moose and squirrel.
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 10:43:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By America-first:

Originally Posted By Gorias:
Paul has already said he will not not be anyone's VP, it would require him to compromise his values.


The same values that allowed him to get into bed with the white supremecy crowd, the Cindy Sheehan crowd, the freedom "dollar" scam crowd..............?

Those values?

You do realize they're the ones who "got into bed" with him, right?

Politics makes for strange bedfellows, but it's not like he invited them in.

And especially not at the *expense* of anyone else.

Like he *prefers* white supremacists to non-racist black or white people......

This isn't like Guiliani's deal he brokered with Pat Robertson or anything.

This is an entire galaxy away from that.
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 11:22:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By America-first:

Originally Posted By Gorias:
Paul has already said he will not not be anyone's VP, it would require him to compromise his values.





The same values that allowed him to get into bed with the white supremecy crowd, the Cindy Sheehan crowd, the freedom "dollar" scam crowd..............?

Those values?


How, exactly, is Paul "in bed" with white supremecists, Sheehan, and the Liberty Dollar folks? I would like to know, personally. Do you have any pictures of them together? Any examples where Paul publically comments on any of these people?
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 11:31:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 11:32:18 AM EDT
I have no doubt Napalitano would be offered a position in a Paul administration, he's about Rons biggest fan so I'm pretty sure he'd accept it too.

Not sure VP is the best one though, maybe AG or SCJ.

Of course it wouldn't be the first time a sitting VP got nominated to the SC.

NH, NV..and then...

Here's Paul last night after the debate, good crowd, kinda weak sound quality on the vid though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8oJAm-06oQ

Link Posted: 11/29/2007 11:39:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By swede1986:

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.
Seriously, the differences between the two hardly exist.
I will continue to state, ron paul running as an independent would be the best possible outcome for the republicans.


roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg


How the f**k can a guy like that get a chick like her?



Maybe she got him as a "thank you" for a 40-year subscription to MAD Magazine.
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 11:43:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/29/2007 11:50:14 AM EDT by atrophis]

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.
Seriously, the differences between the two hardly exist.
I will continue to state, ron paul running as an independent would be the best possible outcome for the republicans.


roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg


His wife is only 30. He's like 30 years older than her. She is also a limey.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Kucinich

ETA: Updated the age... off by like 10 years.
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 11:45:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sylvan:

Originally Posted By Fingerpicker:

Originally Posted By America-first:

Originally Posted By Gorias:
Paul has already said he will not not be anyone's VP, it would require him to compromise his values.





The same values that allowed him to get into bed with the white supremecy crowd, the Cindy Sheehan crowd, the freedom "dollar" scam crowd..............?

Those values?


How, exactly, is Paul "in bed" with white supremecists, Sheehan, and the Liberty Dollar folks? I would like to know, personally. Do you have any pictures of them together? Any examples where Paul publically comments on any of these people?

Or where he publicly denounces their financial and overt support for the R3VO_lTION?


Because the way to win elections is to shun dollars and push away voters.

PS - So I assume Thompson's support by Right to Life groups means he's "in bed" with clinic bombers?
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 11:53:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JonasWright:

Because the way to win elections is to shun dollars and push away voters.

PS - So I assume Thompson's support by Right to Life groups means he's "in bed" with clinic bombers?




Fail as usual…

The right to life groups endorsing Thompson denounce abortion clinic bombers.

The groups endorsing Paul are neo-Nazis, KKK, ect. SCUM. And yes Paul should denounce them and refuse to take their money and support brecause it is the right thing to do.

Now when a actually abortion clinic bomber endorses Thompson and he does not denounce them you have a real comparison… but then that ain’t going to happen.
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 12:18:08 PM EDT
There are plenty of unsavory types who support all these candidates, and most of these same people mentioned supported W in '00 and '04.

Any "change" candidate is going to get a disproportionate amount of support from the fringes though, freedom is popular with all sorts of people. The reasons why such diverse people find Paul appealing are obvious.

There's no reason to comment on it because thinking people judge candidates on their own merits, there's no merit to this line of attack which is why it has no traction anywhere except here where trolls like Incitatus keep pushing it...
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 3:33:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By prk:

Originally Posted By swede1986:

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Man, I hate kucinich so much I would fuck his wife out of spite.
Seriously, the differences between the two hardly exist.
I will continue to state, ron paul running as an independent would be the best possible outcome for the republicans.

roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg

How the f**k can a guy like that get a chick like her?

Maybe she got him as a "thank you" for a 40-year subscription to MAD Magazine.
Link Posted: 11/29/2007 3:49:09 PM EDT
The constant anti-Ron Paul drumbeat on here just makes utterly no sense to me at all.

Ron Paul is a morally upstanding man compared to the likes of Rudy Giuliani, for example.

Is it that you people really just can't stand the idea of Americans having a shot at actual freedom? Do you really think the giant misused military is doing this country any good at all? What is your beef, or are you all just a bunch of dumb kids who really haven't learned any important life lessons yet?

No candidate is going to give you perfection. Ron Paul stands for the US Constitution, he has defended it from all foes, foreign and domestic, for his entire political career. Ron Paul never sold out to special interests or caved on his principles in order to cut deals with anti-gun Democrats.

We actually have a guy worth voting for this time around and all that happens on this board is that he gets shit because he's too "utopian" or whatever.

Link Posted: 11/30/2007 5:26:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/30/2007 5:31:03 AM EDT by America-first]

Originally Posted By Fingerpicker:

Originally Posted By America-first:

Originally Posted By Gorias:
Paul has already said he will not not be anyone's VP, it would require him to compromise his values.





The same values that allowed him to get into bed with the white supremecy crowd, the Cindy Sheehan crowd, the freedom "dollar" scam crowd..............?

Those values?


How, exactly, is Paul "in bed" with white supremecists, Sheehan, and the Liberty Dollar folks? I would like to know, personally. Do you have any pictures of them together? Any examples where Paul publically comments on any of these people?




Nope; he doesn't "comment on any of these people", but in fact he's virtually built his campaign around them.

By refusing to denounce, and by accepting the support of those anti American, racist, anti war, anti military, anti US currency, fringe element, nut jobs, Ron Paul has clearly demonstrated that he's got about as much integrity as Hillary Klinton.

In fact, if you scratch the surface; that's where the bulk of his political support comes from.

And, afterall, he does have his face engraved on genuine, counterfeit "20 Dollars USA" coins.

Oh wait; he didn't personally engrave each and every one of them so he bears no responsability for that shit either.



Link Posted: 11/30/2007 5:38:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By JonasWright:

Because the way to win elections is to shun dollars and push away voters.

PS - So I assume Thompson's support by Right to Life groups means he's "in bed" with clinic bombers?




Fail as usual…

The right to life groups endorsing Thompson denounce abortion clinic bombers.

The groups endorsing Paul are neo-Nazis, KKK, ect. SCUM. And yes Paul should denounce them and refuse to take their money and support brecause it is the right thing to do.

Now when a actually abortion clinic bomber endorses Thompson and he does not denounce them you have a real comparison… but then that ain’t going to happen.


I suspect, like normal, that you really aren't sure what you're talking about. Here is the disclosure of Ron Paul's fundraising.


Individual contributions $8,229,811 ----- 100%

PAC contributions $10,799 ------- 0%

That's right, his PAC donations are so small as to not even being able to round up to 1 percentage point. And of that $10K, a WHOPPING $3,153 comes from single issue groups and the rest from business.

So, essentially, you're drawing bald assumptions out of thin air with really nothing to support or substantiate your claims other than the same pictures produced again, and again, and again, and again, ad nauseum, ad infinitum, of weirdos in Ron Paul gear.

But at least you stick with what you're good at.
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