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Posted: 12/8/2020 9:11:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Family member just posted this.. seems insane. She's a realtor. I am finally letting my beloved 4-runner go to a new home - my favorite vehicle ever! This 2003 limited edition with a V-8 engine was purchased new in 2004 and has 181,200 miles. Leather interior with heated seats is in excellent condition. Lots of upgrades! Asking $8500. If interested PM me! All recommended services were performed on time by Toyota. I'd only give $5k for it, but someone from the rust belt would gladly pay $8500 if it's mostly rust free. |
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Posted: 12/9/2020 12:10:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd only give $5k for it, but someone from the rust belt would gladly pay $8500 if it's mostly rust free. I don't think Central TX has rust problems unless it sits in a field? |
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Posted: 12/17/2020 4:41:31 PM EDT
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Has the truck market come down to earth yet? |
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Posted: 12/17/2020 4:50:47 PM EDT
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It's still beyond nuts. I have a buddy who has been looking for a 3500 dually for about a year now. Salesmen all act as if they're made of solid gold. A couple of them were so filthy and ragged out I would have been ashamed to have them on my lot. Nobody wanted to budge an inch on pricing and wouldn't even look at you if they couldn't sell the financing.
He wound up finding a fellow farmer who was on a bit of a rough patch and was seriously considering setting his prized 3500 dually on fire. So he got that one for the payoff and the other guy was beyond ecstatic. I told him he could have made money just selling the damn thing but he was obviously in money trouble for a reason. 2018 3500 dually with leather package and about 50,000 miles for just a hair over $42K. Looks like he was taking it to car shows its so clean. |
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Posted: 12/25/2020 8:27:08 AM EDT
[#5]
Shouldn't everyone be running out of money by now?
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Posted: 12/25/2020 9:28:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I keep getting told that my 2019 Tacoma is worth $40K the sticker was only like $32K  But does it burn nut coal? |
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Posted: 12/25/2020 9:33:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shouldn't everyone be running out of money by now? Much like the government, many people find a way of printing what they don't have. I have a co-worker who's laid off right now, but still went out and financed a new F150. If a lending institution gives a $45,000 loan to someone out of work on a $25/hour job, I'm pretty sure I see how so many people are buying and how the market is supporting these kinds of prices. There's a reckoning coming. 
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Posted: 12/25/2020 9:45:41 AM EDT
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My dad was just offered 28k trade-in on his paid for 2015 F150 Platinum 4WD with 90k miles. He was looking at a new 2020 F250 XLT 7.3 4WD listed for $59K (Z plan price would be 54k).
He wants to wait for a 2021 because he didn't like the couple of 20s they had left. He said he would sell me the F150 for $25k, that's a good deal in this market for sure, I'm on the fence though. I could sell my paid for 2010 Tacoma with 113k miles for $25k and just basically swap them out |
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Posted: 12/25/2020 9:55:17 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not just guns, ammo and trucks. The entire retail sector is of the charts. People aren't spending money on concerts, plane flights, sporting events, cruises, vacations, etc. Glad I'm not trying to buy a truck(or lumber) right now. |
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Posted: 12/25/2020 10:24:05 AM EDT
[#10]
I just sold a 2001 4wd 8.1 gasser dually Silverado in pretty rough shape (roofing/plow truck) for 6k.
Yeah, used trucks are stupid expensive right now, that's the main reason I bought new earlier this year for the first time since 2003 |
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Posted: 12/25/2020 12:39:36 PM EDT
[#11]
Wife bought a new ride. We got BB high retail on trade for her 10 year old Infinity FX50. I was shocked at their offer.
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Posted: 1/2/2021 8:35:16 AM EDT
[#12]
Prices usually decline after the holidays, right?
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Posted: 1/2/2021 8:51:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prices usually decline after the holidays, right? Last year they went up |
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Posted: 1/2/2021 8:53:22 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone on unemployment is rich and buying new vehicles. @Htown156 Please explain this |
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Posted: 1/2/2021 9:13:46 AM EDT
[#15]
30% of our money supply was created in 2020.
Stuff costs more bucks. Always will. Now, it will just be more noticeable. |
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Posted: 1/2/2021 9:32:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who was the source for this proof? Snopes. It's called math, just look at the numbers |
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Posted: 1/2/2021 10:11:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 30% of our money supply was created in 2020. Stuff costs more bucks. Always will. Now, it will just be more noticeable. |
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Posted: 1/2/2021 8:23:19 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In before $100k pickups are the norm. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 30% of our money supply was created in 2020. Stuff costs more bucks. Always will. Now, it will just be more noticeable. It won’t be long on the high end trims |
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Posted: 1/3/2021 1:16:54 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Saw this on my LinkedIn feed recently. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/263586/Screenshot_20200910-104013_png-1585805.JPG My 2008 Tundra has gone up in value as well. 
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Posted: 1/3/2021 1:23:53 PM EDT
[#20]
i gots a 85,000 mile 2008 2500hd duramax, ext cab LTZ package (goddang too many qualifiers) I considered trading in on the same body style and options but a crew cab.
I have decided the ext cab is just fine. Everything is full retard. the truck i described in a 2008-2014 is like a $40,000 truck. |
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Posted: 1/3/2021 1:26:31 PM EDT
[#21]
I just bought a brand new BMW for a lot cheaper than the full size trucks I was looking at. Ill just rent a truck or borrow one the few times I actually need to use one.
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Posted: 1/3/2021 1:29:20 PM EDT
[#22]
Just wait until gas hits $6 a gallon, you'll be able to swap your Civic for a 2500-3500 4x4 truck and the truck owners will weep with joy and kiss your feet for taking it off his hands.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:36:33 AM EDT
[#23]
How are truck prices doing? I have to sell my little 1995 T100 2WD in the next couple weeks.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:35:42 PM EDT
[#24]
If we have been printing more and more dollars recently and their value is declining, are prices really rising? Or, is the value of the dollar just falling and it requires more dollars to purchase the same product today vs years ago?
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:31:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How are truck prices doing? I have to sell my little 1995 T100 2WD in the next couple weeks. What does that have to do with selling a truck?  Sorry, couldn't resist. Serious response, around here it's the used work truck market that's especially retarded, 150/1500 series stuff to a certain point, lighter duty stuff, not so much. Especially at 25 years old. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:40:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: On several of the F150 groups. Guys are posting that they have sold there trucks to Carvana for more than what they paid for them originally. It seems shit has gotten outta control.. I believe it. I struggled to find a 2021 GMC 2500 Sierra AT4 to my liking (white, diesel, loaded) and ended up having to take a black one. I paid $70,000 for it and three days after I got it a dealership I had been dealing with called to tell me they had the white one which I originally wanted coming in from port now. I asked them what they would give me for mine, used with 20 miles and they told me $72,000. I contemplated taking the deal but by the time I paid two sets of taxes and documentation fees it was not worth it. Plus I had already started to upset my truck. Apparently dealers are forced to sell the new ones for the employee pricing or at least they were in December so when they don’t have new ones they sell the used ones for more than the new ones. It’s absolutely crazy. Meanwhile the Ford F250 is not quite as high of demand. I was told that GM shut down for two months and there are fewer cars in the pipeline which is driving demand up. The sales manager told me that GM makes them sell at Employee Pricing by contract, so they are losing big opportunity profit. However, he said some dealers were getting in the new trucks, throwing on turd wheels, blacking something out, adding $500 in accessories from alibaba, and then jacking the price up by $6k as a dealer markup. That lets them get around what was the GM employee pricing deal. To get into the Sierra AT4, I sold the dealership that had the white one eventually, my 2021 Toyo 4Runner Limited which i had on a 36mo lease for $600 under what was my lease payout (They paid me $42,500, payoff $43,100). So, I paid 6 lease payments, put 8k miles on it, and then paid $600 to get rid of it. Sign me up. They still have the 4Runner, priced at $44,500. The market is nuts. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:59:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did Nissan just quit making trucks? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:07:37 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I struggled to find a 2021 GMC 2500 Sierra AT4 to my liking (white, diesel, loaded) and ended up having to take a black one. I paid $70,000 for it and three days after I got it a dealership I had been dealing with called to tell me they had the white one which I originally wanted coming in from port now. I asked them what they would give me for mine, used with 20 miles and they told me $72,000. I contemplated taking the deal but by the time I paid two sets of taxes and documentation fees it was not worth it. Plus I had already started to upset my truck. Apparently dealers are forced to sell the new ones for the employee pricing or at least they were in December so when they don’t have new ones they sell the used ones for more than the new ones. It’s absolutely crazy. Meanwhile the Ford F250 is not quite as high of demand. I was told that GM shut down for two months and there are fewer cars in the pipeline which is driving demand up. The sales manager told me that GM makes them sell at Employee Pricing by contract, so they are losing big opportunity profit. However, he said some dealers were getting in the new trucks, throwing on turd wheels, blacking something out, adding $500 in accessories from alibaba, and then jacking the price up by $6k as a dealer markup. That lets them get around what was the GM employee pricing deal. To get into the Sierra AT4, I sold the dealership that had the white one eventually, my 2021 Toyo 4Runner Limited which i had on a 36mo lease for $600 under what was my lease payout (They paid me $42,500, payoff $43,100). So, I paid 6 lease payments, put 8k miles on it, and then paid $600 to get rid of it. Sign me up. They still have the 4Runner, priced at $44,500. The market is nuts. We’ve been watching trucks for around a year and a half looking for the best deal. Ended up with a 21 Silverado with the 3.0 duramax this week. We got employee pricing plus rebates and a 75$ doc fee. We ended up with an out the door price and 0% finance for less than the same truck, 1 year old, trade in is worth. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:18:01 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We’ve been watching trucks for around a year and a half looking for the best deal. Ended up with a 21 Silverado with the 3.0 duramax this week. We got employee pricing plus rebates and a 75$ doc fee. We ended up with an out the door price and 0% finance for less than the same truck, 1 year old, trade in is worth. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I struggled to find a 2021 GMC 2500 Sierra AT4 to my liking (white, diesel, loaded) and ended up having to take a black one. I paid $70,000 for it and three days after I got it a dealership I had been dealing with called to tell me they had the white one which I originally wanted coming in from port now. I asked them what they would give me for mine, used with 20 miles and they told me $72,000. I contemplated taking the deal but by the time I paid two sets of taxes and documentation fees it was not worth it. Plus I had already started to upset my truck. Apparently dealers are forced to sell the new ones for the employee pricing or at least they were in December so when they don’t have new ones they sell the used ones for more than the new ones. It’s absolutely crazy. Meanwhile the Ford F250 is not quite as high of demand. I was told that GM shut down for two months and there are fewer cars in the pipeline which is driving demand up. The sales manager told me that GM makes them sell at Employee Pricing by contract, so they are losing big opportunity profit. However, he said some dealers were getting in the new trucks, throwing on turd wheels, blacking something out, adding $500 in accessories from alibaba, and then jacking the price up by $6k as a dealer markup. That lets them get around what was the GM employee pricing deal. To get into the Sierra AT4, I sold the dealership that had the white one eventually, my 2021 Toyo 4Runner Limited which i had on a 36mo lease for $600 under what was my lease payout (They paid me $42,500, payoff $43,100). So, I paid 6 lease payments, put 8k miles on it, and then paid $600 to get rid of it. Sign me up. They still have the 4Runner, priced at $44,500. The market is nuts. We’ve been watching trucks for around a year and a half looking for the best deal. Ended up with a 21 Silverado with the 3.0 duramax this week. We got employee pricing plus rebates and a 75$ doc fee. We ended up with an out the door price and 0% finance for less than the same truck, 1 year old, trade in is worth. Yeah, if you're in the market for a truck and can afford to be picky, its crazy not to by before inflation hits. After Biden bucks, the market is going to go crazy. And oh man, if they do Cash for Clunkers 2021 - the sky is the limit. In my case I had to have something before the tax deadline. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:50:19 AM EDT
[#30]
What do y’all think is the best way to sell my truck? I’m in Houston, so big city. It’s a 2003 Dodge Ram.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:03:27 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: stop being poor and buy new? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just saw on a salvage auction a 2008 Chevy 2wd Silverado LT (1LT) with about 130,000 miles just go for $8300 plus auction fees. Truck has a salvaged title and needs some cosmetic work.  stop being poor and buy new? This is a poor person’s mindset |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:15:44 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What do y’all think is the best way to sell my truck? I’m in Houston, so big city. It’s a 2003 Dodge Ram. Take it up north if it is a rust free 4x4. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:26:13 AM EDT
[#33]
I had a 05 Nissan Titan stolen and when found the damage was to much so insurance totaled the truck, they valued it at like 12.5k. It cost 6.5k to retain the vehicle. I just thought maybe the adjuster wanted it for himself, guess not.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:27:08 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Family member just posted this.. seems insane. She's a realtor. I am finally letting my beloved 4-runner go to a new home - my favorite vehicle ever! This 2003 limited edition with a V-8 engine was purchased new in 2004 and has 181,200 miles. Leather interior with heated seats is in excellent condition. Lots of upgrades! Asking $8500. If interested PM me! All recommended services were performed on time by Toyota. I sold my 4th gen 4Runner 4wd 170k miles for $11k in December and it’s a v6 with cloth seats. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:29:21 AM EDT
[#35]
But why? Does this have something to do with the earths gravitational pull with the moon?
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:31:49 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's do Cash for Clunkers again and destroy perfectly adequate vehicles. I’m still trying to figure out the motivation for that. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:20:52 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What does that have to do with selling a truck? Sorry, couldn't resist. Serious response, around here it's the used work truck market that's especially retarded, 150/1500 series stuff to a certain point, lighter duty stuff, not so much. Especially at 25 years old. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How are truck prices doing? I have to sell my little 1995 T100 2WD in the next couple weeks. What does that have to do with selling a truck? Sorry, couldn't resist. Serious response, around here it's the used work truck market that's especially retarded, 150/1500 series stuff to a certain point, lighter duty stuff, not so much. Especially at 25 years old. Well, I posted my little truck for sale in the EE today. I think it's a darn bargain but everyone has their own opinion of what things should cost. Definitely doesn't have the utility of a full size truck with a V8.  |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:24:24 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On several of the F150 groups. Guys are posting that they have sold there trucks to Carvana for more than what they paid for them originally. It seems shit has gotten outta control.. I now see the same trucks advertised at used lots with 20-40k miles for the same price I paid for mine new |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 2:38:41 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone on unemployment is rich and buying new vehicles. I think that's it. Been ogling old Miatas and similar and that shit has dried up, even more since stimulus check 2.0 |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:46:33 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think that's it. Been ogling old Miatas and similar and that shit has dried up, even more since stimulus check 2.0 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Everyone on unemployment is rich and buying new vehicles. I think that's it. Been ogling old Miatas and similar and that shit has dried up, even more since stimulus check 2.0 |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:11:49 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I struggled to find a 2021 GMC 2500 Sierra AT4 to my liking (white, diesel, loaded) and ended up having to take a black one. I paid $70,000 for it and three days after I got it a dealership I had been dealing with called to tell me they had the white one which I originally wanted coming in from port now. I asked them what they would give me for mine, used with 20 miles and they told me $72,000. I contemplated taking the deal but by the time I paid two sets of taxes and documentation fees it was not worth it. Plus I had already started to upset my truck. Apparently dealers are forced to sell the new ones for the employee pricing or at least they were in December so when they don’t have new ones they sell the used ones for more than the new ones. It’s absolutely crazy. Meanwhile the Ford F250 is not quite as high of demand. I was told that GM shut down for two months and there are fewer cars in the pipeline which is driving demand up. The sales manager told me that GM makes them sell at Employee Pricing by contract, so they are losing big opportunity profit. However, he said some dealers were getting in the new trucks, throwing on turd wheels, blacking something out, adding $500 in accessories from alibaba, and then jacking the price up by $6k as a dealer markup. That lets them get around what was the GM employee pricing deal. To get into the Sierra AT4, I sold the dealership that had the white one eventually, my 2021 Toyo 4Runner Limited which i had on a 36mo lease for $600 under what was my lease payout (They paid me $42,500, payoff $43,100). So, I paid 6 lease payments, put 8k miles on it, and then paid $600 to get rid of it. Sign me up. They still have the 4Runner, priced at $44,500. The market is nuts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: On several of the F150 groups. Guys are posting that they have sold there trucks to Carvana for more than what they paid for them originally. It seems shit has gotten outta control.. I believe it. I struggled to find a 2021 GMC 2500 Sierra AT4 to my liking (white, diesel, loaded) and ended up having to take a black one. I paid $70,000 for it and three days after I got it a dealership I had been dealing with called to tell me they had the white one which I originally wanted coming in from port now. I asked them what they would give me for mine, used with 20 miles and they told me $72,000. I contemplated taking the deal but by the time I paid two sets of taxes and documentation fees it was not worth it. Plus I had already started to upset my truck. Apparently dealers are forced to sell the new ones for the employee pricing or at least they were in December so when they don’t have new ones they sell the used ones for more than the new ones. It’s absolutely crazy. Meanwhile the Ford F250 is not quite as high of demand. I was told that GM shut down for two months and there are fewer cars in the pipeline which is driving demand up. The sales manager told me that GM makes them sell at Employee Pricing by contract, so they are losing big opportunity profit. However, he said some dealers were getting in the new trucks, throwing on turd wheels, blacking something out, adding $500 in accessories from alibaba, and then jacking the price up by $6k as a dealer markup. That lets them get around what was the GM employee pricing deal. To get into the Sierra AT4, I sold the dealership that had the white one eventually, my 2021 Toyo 4Runner Limited which i had on a 36mo lease for $600 under what was my lease payout (They paid me $42,500, payoff $43,100). So, I paid 6 lease payments, put 8k miles on it, and then paid $600 to get rid of it. Sign me up. They still have the 4Runner, priced at $44,500. The market is nuts. yep...my dad bought a 2011 F-250 gas fx4 lariat in 2018, I think it was $20,000 before TT&L, they are offering him like $22,000 and begging him to trade right now.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:22:36 AM EDT
[#42]
I'll sell my 06 Titan SE crew w/ 245k miles for $15k to anyone in this thread
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:32:02 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait until gas hits $6 a gallon, you'll be able to swap your Civic for a 2500-3500 4x4 truck and the truck owners will weep with joy and kiss your feet for taking it off his hands. I've been looking at Hellcats, ZL1 and GT500's. I think $5 gas in on the way and it's going to drop the bottom out of the market. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:37:08 AM EDT
[#44]
A lot of things across a lot of industries are skyrocketing right now. More to come, I’m sure. People don’t think the beginning of a large inflationary cycle be like it is, but it do.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:48:03 AM EDT
[#45]
just sold my Dad's '06 chebby 1/2 ton at auction for $4100.
my Mom tried to give it to me, no way, 8ft box and extended cab. If had a std cab I'd thought about it. 54K miles, 2wd. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:50:22 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's do Cash for Clunkers again and destroy perfectly adequate vehicles. Oh fuck Biden will. Get rid of your evil gasoline powered climate destroyer and buy a $60,000 electric economy shit box... it's for the children. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:56:54 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Body-on-frame SUVs are absurd too Look at the prices for excursions especially the diesel ones Those have always been desirable, Ford stopped production and the existing ones became very sought after. Now that ford has an F250 platform and a 7.3 industrial gas engine, they need to remake the Excursion... they would get 6 figures for them new and still couldn't keep any inventory. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:03:27 AM EDT
[#48]
My truck I bought a year ago carfax keeps telling me has trade in value of 20k, but I'm seeing them go for a bit more than I paid.
The market is so weird right now. |
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Posted: 2/1/2021 12:14:20 AM EDT
[#49]
Sold my truck. Facebook marketplace had it gone in an hour. I hated the idea of using Facebook but needed it gone quick.
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Posted: 2/1/2021 12:23:07 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sold my truck. Facebook marketplace had it gone in an hour. I hated the idea of using Facebook but needed it gone quick. It was up for less than 48 hours |
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