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Posted: 1/28/2002 12:03:05 PM EDT

I got board and went to visit "the Wild Side."

[url]http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=13211&forum=DCForumID35 [/url]

They hate Feinstein as much as we do. [>:/]

But mostly because she's too conservative. [shock]

They freaks are whacked. [stick] Or need whacked. [:D]

Posted: 1/28/2002 12:15:56 PM EDT

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I've noticed that we actually have quite a bit in common with many of them. Quite a lot of them seem to have a more than healthy distrust of government and are eager to protect at least some of the rights enumerated in the Constitution. I sometimes wonder if the only reason we are poles apart is because of the demonization that goes on on both sides.

Posted: 1/28/2002 12:26:02 PM EDT

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. I sometimes wonder if the only reason we are poles apart is because of the demonization that goes on on both sides.

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You are what they call a dupe.

You are getting sucked into their black hole.

When teh use words like patriotism, fear of gov't, freedom, and liberty, they mean VERY different things that when you use the words.

They hate capitalism. They love Marxist ideals. They beleive you should be free - which they define as ONE step above being in shackles and being beaten daily.

Trust me - if you beleive the Second Amendment guarantees you as a citizen the right to keep and bear arms, you have NOTHING in common with them. Conversely, if you have ANYTHING in common with them, you have NOTHING in common with me.

Posted: 1/28/2002 12:33:59 PM EDT

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I've noticed that we actually have quite a bit in common with many of them. Quite a lot of them seem to have a more than healthy distrust of government and are eager to protect at least some of the rights enumerated in the Constitution. I sometimes wonder if the only reason we are poles apart is because of the demonization that goes on on both sides.

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Yes, both sides have a healthy distrust of gov't. But when we "hate" someone like Feinstein as a Liberal and they "hate" her because she is a Conservative, I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell we'll ever get along.

And interesting how they are "tolerant" and "just" when they really don't seem that way to me.

Just ask the people here who have been banned many times for, usually, a little polite dissension.

Posted: 1/28/2002 12:40:30 PM EDT

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Don't get me wrong - I don't have any misconception that they believe in free enterprise or RKBA - especially the hard core Democrats. I think though, that there are a lot of misinformed Democrats out there that think that conservatives want to oppress them.

And I am no dupe. Go screw yourself.

Posted: 1/28/2002 12:47:14 PM EDT

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Don't get me wrong - I don't have any misconception that they believe in free enterprise or RKBA - especially the hard core Democrats. I think though, that there are a lot of misinformed Democrats out there that think that conservatives want to oppress them.

And I am no dupe. Go screw yourself.

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What I am saying is if you think you have anything in common with them, and voice it to the DU'ers, they regard you as a dupe. And no thank you to the offer to go screw myself.

You have absolutely ZERO in common with the DU'ers. They are Marxists. Unrepentant, hardcore America haters. AT least, they hate Geore Washington's America. You SHOULD regard that as a compliment. Instead, you tell me to go screw myself.

This thread is about the DU'ers - not some unidentified group you call "misinformed Democrats."

The DU'ers hate you. They despise you. They regard you as a fool, and if you voice to them the sentiment "I think we have something in common," they only laugh HARDER at you.

I on the other hand, have great respect for you. And you tell me to go screw myself.

Thanks, but NO THANKS.

Posted: 1/28/2002 12:55:39 PM EDT

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G-Man, you said:

You are what they call a dupe.

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I mistook that as you calling me a dupe. My apologies.

Posted: 1/28/2002 12:58:05 PM EDT

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Oh come on guys. Don't stop now. Keep it up. I've never had a thread that was locked. [:D]

Posted: 1/28/2002 1:01:29 PM EDT

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G-Man, you said:

You are what they call a dupe.

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I mistook that as you calling me a dupe. My apologies.

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No problem.

But my point remains. Thinking you can reach any accord with the DU'ers WILL be your undoing.

Now, for those "misinformed Democrats" there is still hope. If we can get beyond the fiery rhetoric with them, we may have some real success in changing minds.

The "Southern Democrat" phenomenon is one example. People who have voted Democratic for 50 years. And if your average Southern Democrat had ANY CLUE about what the Democratic Party is all about, they would string 'em all up before sunset.

Posted: 1/28/2002 1:07:26 PM EDT

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Those are the people I'm talking about, G-man. Those other nutcases are more than welcome to pack up and leave.

If each of us can reach out to just a few poor, misinformed souls, we can turn the tide in our favor. It's not even hard to do. I've converted several people in just the last year.

We need to get a conservative pyramid scheme going.

Posted: 1/28/2002 1:22:06 PM EDT

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A corporate whore' that is too funny. These people are too funny......I love it!

Posted: 1/28/2002 1:26:24 PM EDT

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Sounds a lot like my partner at work. He's mostly a conservative devout Catholic.

Just before the election he was furious with Gore for recommending the "morning-after" birth control pill. He was fit to be tied. Wasn't going to vote for that a@@hole.

Gore lost. And Dennis was in an even more foul mood for several days. He STILL voted for Gore!

You just can't convince him that the modern Democratic Party is not the same Dem. Party of the '50's early '60's.

He can't seem to connect that those "far left liberals" (his words) are what now control the Dem. Party. [rolleyes]

Posted: 1/28/2002 1:37:17 PM EDT

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garandman is right. The DUers really do care about freedom and liberty. However, they care not a whit about the freedoms ennumerated in the Constitution. The freedoms they do care about are such freedoms as freedom from want, freedom from fear, etc, and they are willing to shitcan the Constitution and all the standard models of rights to get their way.
Don't be fooled; You have no common ground with them beyond verbiage.

Posted: 1/28/2002 2:22:46 PM EDT

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They hate her because:

1. She voted for lower taxes in 2001

2. She agrees that al-quaeda terrorists in Guantanamo do not warrant the treatment accorded to civilzed combatants under the Geneva Convention.

Posted: 1/28/2002 3:55:35 PM EDT

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My mom used to work for her husband many years ago. If I only knew then what I know now, I might have been able to help. Oh well, hindsight and 20/20 and all that...

I had the displeasure of seeing her scragly face on the news last night. "I would rather be in prison here (Camp X-Ray) than at Folsom back in CA." Yeah you dumb bitch, that's why prisons are there for - punishment. It's not supposed to be a vacation from the regular world.

Posted: 1/28/2002 4:26:07 PM EDT

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that's why prisons are there for - punishment. It's not supposed to be a vacation from the regular world.

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Actually... isn't it supposed to NOT be punishment? Our current system calls itself the "Department of Corrections," and we call prisons "Correctional Facilities." Somehow sitting in their cell is supposed to make them into better people.

I'm not arguing that people who commit crimes SHOULDN'T be punished. On the contrary, I'm more for corporal punishment, etc. I'm just saying that our current prison system is SUPPOSED to be about correction.

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