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Posted: 12/29/2006 9:57:13 PM EDT
Did any of y'all cry during this movie?

I just watched for the second time ever. I can't help but cry when I watch this movie. I think it's so sad because it's the most accurate and realistic war movie I've ever seen. Young American men actually went through that.

Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:00:50 PM EDT
[#1]
Should read the book. Or the biography of Rick Rescorla. Fascinating guy. It's his picture on the cover of 'We Were Soldiers'. And he predicted and trained his firm's employees to survive the WTC attack and died making sure people got out of the building. Fought in Africa, fought in Vietnam and died in an office building.
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:02:00 PM EDT
[#2]
That movie was quite surprising
i had not read the book and the previews made it look like a homefront whiney movie

I was pleasantly surprised to see one of the best war movies ever made

didn't cry but did feel made for the burnt guy  what a shitty way to get wounded

EDUT +1 on Rick Rescorla
heres his wiki page but it does not begin to do him justice
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rescorla
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:02:05 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Did any of y'all cry during this movie?

I just watched for the second time ever. I can't help but cry when I watch this movie. I think it's so sad because it's the most accurate and realistic war movie I've ever seen. Young American men actually went through that.



It's Hollywood man. Realistic yes, it's only Hollywood. You and my wife should watch movies together along with a box of Klenex....
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:03:01 PM EDT
[#4]
The book is amazing.
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:03:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:08:15 PM EDT
[#6]
I read the book prior to watching the movie and it followed the book the best it could. I cried when the soldier got burned by our own napalm. He died two days later in a hospital and yes his baby was born that day.
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:08:51 PM EDT
[#7]

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No


Well I knew you wouldn't.
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:24:56 PM EDT
[#8]
I took the book with me on a hiking trip as my evening entertainment.  It gets real hard to read at times.

I have some moist eyes in parts of that movie.
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:30:14 PM EDT
[#9]
I don't know, that movie always struck me as kind of cornball.
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:32:49 PM EDT
[#10]
Yesterday at the Independance Bowl during half time, General (ret) Hal Moore received an award in the name of liberty and freedom (I believe is was the Omar Bradley Award).  He spoke for about 2 minutes, each word carefully selected, perfectly humble, and completely praising of his soldiers and those that are busting their asses today.  He is an True Hero.

While the movie is a good movie, I find it too ficticious, the book is incredible.
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:34:58 PM EDT
[#11]
There's a great flash animation of the battle that really helps illustrate the battle. Watching it along with the movie, you get a much better idea of what went on in that very dramatic battle.

www.wtj.com/articles/xray/

Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:38:56 PM EDT
[#12]
Make sure you sign the petition to award Rick with the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his service and bravery.

www.petitiononline.com/pmfrick/petition.html
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:42:08 PM EDT
[#13]
I got some sawdust or something in my eyes for several minutes.  

Joking aside, an emotional film that had great casting
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:43:29 PM EDT
[#14]
+1 on Rick, read: Heart of a Solider to learn more about him
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:45:30 PM EDT
[#15]

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The book is amazing.


Yep, read it soon after seeing the movie. Lots of details not in the film.
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 10:47:22 PM EDT
[#16]

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The book is amazing.


Yep, read it soon after seeing the movie. Lots of details not in the film.

Have to add it to my list
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 11:04:59 PM EDT
[#17]

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The book is amazing.


Yep, read it soon after seeing the movie. Lots of details not in the film.

Have to add it to my list


While you are at it, may as well do Blackhawk Down and get the whole picture.
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 11:07:05 PM EDT
[#18]
I saw it.  Didn't cry but I rarely do.  I thought it a well made movie of a tragic time.  
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 11:08:54 PM EDT
[#19]

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The book is amazing.


Yep, read it soon after seeing the movie. Lots of details not in the film.


I've seen shows on that battle on the History Channel and such. The one thing that I've always remembered were about the vietnamese who went to the area where the wounded Americans were waiting to be medevac'd and started executing them.

In the movie they seemed like they were trying to show both sides as being honorable. Soldiers doing their job in wartime. The truth is that the NVA were nothing close to honorable.
Link Posted: 12/29/2006 11:43:16 PM EDT
[#20]

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Did any of y'all cry during this movie?



I did the first two times I saw it. And it wasnt just the beer. It has to be one of the most humanizing war films ever - giving respect to the worthy foes as well.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 4:48:56 AM EDT
[#21]
The movie is damn good, but the book is better.
And Col. Hal Moore is a amazing man.

Link Posted: 12/30/2006 5:09:13 AM EDT
[#22]

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Should read the book. Or the biography of Rick Rescorla. Fascinating guy. It's his picture on the cover of 'We Were Soldiers'. And he predicted and trained his firm's employees to survive the WTC attack and died making sure people got out of the building. Fought in Africa, fought in Vietnam and died in an office building.


Helluva man.

Thanks Joe Galloway for teaching me about Rick.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 5:38:51 AM EDT
[#23]
Check out the last battle scene when Mel is charging up the hill and the NVA are waiting to fire him up, with a MG34.  That's pretty neat because there were a lot of German WWII weapons in Vietnam, but if you look close, you will see that the rear sight on the 34 is sent to he max range of 2000 meters.  I don't think Mel was that far away.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 5:43:32 AM EDT
[#24]
Good movie, but it didn't make me cry.

Ol' Yeller on the other hand.....
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 5:43:35 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
Should read the book. Or the biography of Rick Rescorla. Fascinating guy. It's his picture on the cover of 'We Were Soldiers'. And he predicted and trained his firm's employees to survive the WTC attack and died making sure people got out of the building. Fought in Africa, fought in Vietnam and died in an office building.


Here is a link to the interview with Mr. Rescorla: Voice Of The Prohpet.

He was responsible for saving over 3,000 of his employees on 11 Sept 01 and only had 6, including himself, die.  What is ironic is that is the number of men who he lost during the Battle in the book "We Were Soldiers".  He is truly one of the unsung hero's of 11 Sept.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 5:51:04 AM EDT
[#26]
It's hard not to get emotional when those telegrams start showing up. That was the worst part for me.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 6:03:22 AM EDT
[#27]
Also, the book Chickenhawk is about a helicopter pilot over there and he is involved in the action there at x-ray.  Kind of adds another side to it.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 6:05:18 AM EDT
[#28]
I have a friend whom is a nationally known figure who was there.  He took his oldest daughter to the movie and upon leaving she asked: "Dad, was it like that?"  His simple answer was, "yes dear it was."
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 6:06:34 AM EDT
[#29]
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 6:11:54 AM EDT
[#30]
Here's the official site dedicated to Mr. Rescorla.
Rick Rescorla.com
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 6:39:51 AM EDT
[#31]

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I have a friend whom is a nationally known figure who was there.  He took his oldest daughter to the movie and upon leaving she asked: "Dad, was it like that?"  His simple answer was, "yes dear it was."

I have a friend who first referred the book to me. He served in Viet Nam as a Huey pilot for three tours (with Hal Moore, for some of his time there). He also thought the book was excellent and gave the movie pretty high marks as well.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:22:12 AM EDT
[#32]
I got teary eyed when the CAB DRIVERS started showing up with death notices and his wife stepped up and started notification teams.

Anyone know if this actually happened?  Or was it holywood?
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:28:15 AM EDT
[#33]

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I got teary eyed when the CAB DRIVERS started showing up with death notices and his wife stepped up and started notification teams.

Anyone know if this actually happened?  Or was it holywood?



Actually happened. No shit.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:40:24 AM EDT
[#34]

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I got teary eyed when the CAB DRIVERS started showing up with death notices and his wife stepped up and started notification teams.

Anyone know if this actually happened?  Or was it holywood?



Actually happened. No shit.


Damn, just Damn.  Today we send official nofication teams, correct?  I hope we've learned from that mistake.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:52:11 AM EDT
[#35]

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I got teary eyed when the CAB DRIVERS started showing up with death notices and his wife stepped up and started notification teams.

Anyone know if this actually happened?  Or was it Hollywood?



Actually happened. No shit.


Damn, just Damn.  Today we send official nofication teams, correct?  I hope we've learned from that mistake.


READ THE BOOK!
But yes, the government wasn't prepared for the large level of casualties when they went big into vietnam and hadn't ramped up everything needed to support those boots on the ground.
And what had been ok the small scale "peacetime" army, was completely overwhelmed by major engagements.  After a while the cab drivers wouldn't even go, they knew what they were.
The Army fouled up bad.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:08:26 AM EDT
[#36]

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I got teary eyed when the CAB DRIVERS started showing up with death notices and his wife stepped up and started notification teams.

Anyone know if this actually happened?  Or was it holywood?


Actually happened. No shit.

Hal Moore's wife Julianne played by Madeline Stowe in the movie died a few years(I think 3) ago.

Check out the comments at:
Wikipedia-We Were Soldiers(movie)
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:40:04 AM EDT
[#37]

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Seen it and read it.
Good book, good story, badly made movie

+ loads on Rescorla.
He was from Cornwall, you know

Mark


I get irritated by comments like this. Is it because it isn't as good as the book? Is it because it doesn't convey the whole hellishness of war? Movies are not and cannot be reality. We Were Soldiers was one of the best movies I've seen.

The hardest part to watch was the helicopters dropping down to nap of the earth while my FIL, who lost a brother in Vietnam, went into suck-it-up-Bob mode.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:51:27 AM EDT
[#38]

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+1 on Rick, read: Heart of a Soldier to learn more about him


+2, good read.  I'm not sure how I stumbled on that book but is a great story!
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 9:18:43 AM EDT
[#39]
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 3:02:08 PM EDT
[#40]

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I got teary eyed when the CAB DRIVERS started showing up with death notices and his wife stepped up and started notification teams.

Anyone know if this actually happened?  Or was it Hollywood?



Actually happened. No shit.


Damn, just Damn.  Today we send official nofication teams, correct?  I hope we've learned from that mistake.


READ THE BOOK!
But yes, the government wasn't prepared for the large level of casualties when they went big into vietnam and hadn't ramped up everything needed to support those boots on the ground.
And what had been ok the small scale "peacetime" army, was completely overwhelmed by major engagements.  After a while the cab drivers wouldn't even go, they knew what they were.
The Army fouled up bad.


What gets me is that Mrs. Moore steps up to the plate like that. What a brave, wonderful woman to take on that task.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 3:54:42 PM EDT
[#41]

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Seen it and read it.
Good book, good story, badly made movie

+ loads on Rescorla.
He was from Cornwall, you know

Mark


I get irritated by comments like this. Is it because it isn't as good as the book? Is it because it doesn't convey the whole hellishness of war? Movies are not and cannot be reality. We Were Soldiers was one of the best movies I've seen.

The hardest part to watch was the helicopters dropping down to nap of the earth while my FIL, who lost a brother in Vietnam, went into suck-it-up-Bob mode.


No, it's because of none of that, it's because it was badly adapted for the screen, cinematography was not very good, Scottish folk songs come on....Rescorla was Cornish, why the Jock connection? Rescorla didn't even figure in the movie and he was one of the main characters. Too much focus on Mel Gibson and Barry Pepper playing Joe Galloway.

The whole movie looked too cheap, it could've been made better.

Apart from that, am I not entitled to my own opinion?

ETA:- FWIW, I saw the movie first and formed my opinion before I was given the book


I agree.

My wife bought me the book when it first came out.
I could not put it down.

I was really looking forward to the movie,  but after watching it,  I felt like it only covered a small part of the book.

(... the Mel Gibson, Barry Pepper part.)

I'm not saying the movie was awful,  just no were near as good as the book.

Link Posted: 12/30/2006 4:59:08 PM EDT
[#42]
Spent some time listening to stories from Mr. Galloway while at Benning, don't agree with everything he writes, but still very interesting.  I also met Ernie Savage and LT. GEN. Moore...all have autographed my copy of the Bookhock.gif  Now I need SGT MAJ Plumleys autograph and I'll be all set.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 5:09:27 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Seen it and read it.
Good book, good story, badly made movie

+ loads on Rescorla.
He was from Cornwall, you know

Mark


I get irritated by comments like this. Is it because it isn't as good as the book? Is it because it doesn't convey the whole hellishness of war? Movies are not and cannot be reality. We Were Soldiers was one of the best movies I've seen.


We don't agree on everything, but I'm right there with you on this one.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 9:34:54 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
Seen it and read it.
Good book, good story, badly made movie

+ loads on Rescorla.
He was from Cornwall, you know

Mark


I agree. The book was great and the movie left me a bit disappointed too. It was refreshing to have a film on the side of the American fighting man, but Randall Wallace just blows as a film maker. In the real battle the NVA were mean mofo's that laughed while executing our wounded, yet in the film they are shown in a positive "politically correct" light.  Hal Moore is shown like Sgt. Rock blowing away NVA left and right. This never happened at all. The finalle bayonet charge was hokey and ridiculous. Does a man really dance around that much when impacted with machine gun fire? Also looks like they mow the grass in the IA -Drang valley/Northern California. lol
I wish Spielberg with a good tech advisor had made this one instead.
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 9:02:48 AM EDT
[#45]
You guys do realize that to make a movie any near as good as a book the movie would be about 12 hours long.

Short stories like The Shawshank Redemption adapt to movies much better than whole books.
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