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Posted: 9/29/2004 7:49:01 PM EST
Now that the Assault Weapons ban has expired, we must focus on letting the U.N. know we will not stand for foreign organizations influencing policy in the United States. Gun Control, election monitoring and BS like that. How do we get this started? Are there avenues for this already? Would the Avila’s devote a section of this site for the awareness of U.N policy?

What do you guys and gals think?

Sanguine
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 7:53:51 PM EST
I voted "hell yes," but could we please get somebody other than Wayne to debate the issue?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 7:57:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 7:58:30 PM EST
President Bush already did that with regards to the UN Small Arms thing
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 7:59:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:
Yes, but I think we should also...

img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/RicArmstrong/Humor/armbeetlejuicelo-fi.jpg

It's the only way to make sure we retain our democracy.



[professorfarnsworth]What!?[/professorfarnsworth]
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:01:31 PM EST
Fuck the UN
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:03:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 8:20:48 PM EST by Knight_Shadow]


the un wants to be the only ones with guns. history has taught us when a government has all the power. the government abuses the power!!!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:11:16 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:23:28 PM EST
Bout ALL I gotta say........

Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:24:13 PM EST
See MY avatar!!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:25:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By JB69:
Bout ALL I gotta say........

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That is great!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:27:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By JB69:
Bout ALL I gotta say........

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HOLY SHIT!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:28:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By WizardOfAhs:
See MY avatar!!


I had to look close at your avatar to see it was a screw....
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:28:16 PM EST
allright who the fuck put Hell no???
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:32:13 PM EST
I put no, I hate the UN but the NRA shouldn't waste a second on that crap as worded. If they get the 89 import taken away, then the '86 ban and then state bans and then city and municipal bans and nobody is still anti and taken seriously, then ok i'm for it but as of right now they should concentrate on what's most important.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:32:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:
allright who the fuck put Hell no???



Seriously. Two people voted "who gives a shit" too.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:35:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 8:35:47 PM EST by repub18]

Originally Posted By NightWatchman:
I put no, I hate the UN but the NRA shouldn't waste a second on that crap as worded. If they get the 89 import taken away, then the '86 ban and then state bans and then city and municipal bans and nobody is still anti and taken seriously, then ok i'm for it but as of right now they should concentrate on what's most important.



oh and you dont feel that the U.S. could potentely sign a treaty with the UN to disarm us is important?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:37:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:
allright who the fuck put Hell no???



Sorry guys, but that was me. I clicked that without thinking and it was purely accidental. I'm a moron. I guess I just put myself in the "Special" Forces tonight.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:41:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sharkman629:

Originally Posted By repub18:
allright who the fuck put Hell no???



Sorry guys, but that was me. I clicked that without thinking and it was purely accidental. I'm a moron. I guess I just put myself in the "Special" Forces tonight.



Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:42:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman:

Originally Posted By Sharkman629:

Originally Posted By repub18:
allright who the fuck put Hell no???



Sorry guys, but that was me. I clicked that without thinking and it was purely accidental. I'm a moron. I guess I just put myself in the "Special" Forces tonight.



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that is funny but so fucked up
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:44:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sharkman629:

Originally Posted By repub18:
allright who the fuck put Hell no???



Sorry guys, but that was me. I clicked that without thinking and it was purely accidental. I'm a moron. I guess I just put myself in the "Special" Forces tonight.



"Your on double secret perdition"
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:47:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:
Yes, but I think we should also...

img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/RicArmstrong/Humor/armbeetlejuicelo-fi.jpg

It's the only way to make sure we retain our democracy.



Isn't beetlejuice dead?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 8:55:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman:

Originally Posted By Sharkman629:

Originally Posted By repub18:
allright who the fuck put Hell no???



Sorry guys, but that was me. I clicked that without thinking and it was purely accidental. I'm a moron. I guess I just put myself in the "Special" Forces tonight.



img75.exs.cx/img75/7254/positive14.jpg



Damn, see what honesty gets you sometimes? Guys, keep 'em coming. I definitely deserve them tonight!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:28:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sharkman629:

Originally Posted By JB69:
Bout ALL I gotta say........

img48.exs.cx/img48/6339/us_soldierpic.jpg



That is great!




Glad y'all liked that just made it a couple hours ago, hehe
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:30:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By SANGUINE:

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:
Yes, but I think we should also...

img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/RicArmstrong/Humor/armbeetlejuicelo-fi.jpg

It's the only way to make sure we retain our democracy.



Isn't beetlejuice dead?




Dont think so.. DO know Hank kicked the bucket tho.... drank his short ass self to death recently
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:43:49 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:58:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:

Originally Posted By NightWatchman:
I put no, I hate the UN but the NRA shouldn't waste a second on that crap as worded. If they get the 89 import taken away, then the '86 ban and then state bans and then city and municipal bans and nobody is still anti and taken seriously, then ok i'm for it but as of right now they should concentrate on what's most important.



oh and you dont feel that the U.S. could potentely sign a treaty with the UN to disarm us is important?



That is so unrealistic at this point, what is realistic is another AWB ban. If the question had been "If the UN tries to force us to be disarmed..." I would say yes, but for the NRA to get involved with stopping the UN from election monitoring in the US on top of the rest of the more important crap like fighting VPC and Feinswine etc I say not yet.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:13:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 10:14:15 PM EST by warlord]
NightWatchman: I disagree. The NRA should fight the anti-gunners whenever and wherever they find them. A treaty when with 2/3 approval from the USA Senate and signed by the POTUS, has the force of Constitutional amendment. By the time it affect you personally, it will be too late to do anything about it, and all there is left is to comply.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 6:27:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By NightWatchman:

Originally Posted By repub18:

Originally Posted By NightWatchman:
I put no, I hate the UN but the NRA shouldn't waste a second on that crap as worded. If they get the 89 import taken away, then the '86 ban and then state bans and then city and municipal bans and nobody is still anti and taken seriously, then ok i'm for it but as of right now they should concentrate on what's most important.



oh and you dont feel that the U.S. could potentely sign a treaty with the UN to disarm us is important?



That is so unrealistic at this point, what is realistic is another AWB ban. If the question had been "If the UN tries to force us to be disarmed..." I would say yes, but for the NRA to get involved with stopping the UN from election monitoring in the US on top of the rest of the more important crap like fighting VPC and Feinswine etc I say not yet.



I'm 41 now, When I was about 8 I remember listening to a conversation between my dad (a cop) and the neihbor talking about when guns will be outlawed for all citizens. And why the NRA is important. Ok, so it hasn't happened yet but the AWB was a shot at it. Don't think for a minute that if Gore had been elected it would have sunset. There is no telling how much further he would have taken it. We cannot be passive or reactive to these issues anymore. We must be proactive and preemtive if we wish to preserve the American way of life.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 6:32:58 AM EST
The saying a "a good defense is a good offense?" We've got to keep the anti-gunners off-balance.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 6:44:40 AM EST
I have refrained from voting simply because my vote is a yes and a no.
If you means take on the UN about gun rights or lack there of, then yes.
If you mean about monitoring elections, monetary contributions, etc. then no. I don't believe the NRA should involved themselves in that stuff. There are other organizations to handle those issues. Don't dilute the NRA with multiple issues when there is greater strength by concentrating on one.

Now NRA members are the same as any other American citizen and should be invovled in getting the UN the hell out of our business, but not the organization itself IMHO.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 6:25:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By drache:
I have refrained from voting simply because my vote is a yes and a no.
If you means take on the UN about gun rights or lack there of, then yes.
If you mean about monitoring elections, monetary contributions, etc. then no. I don't believe the NRA should involved themselves in that stuff. There are other organizations to handle those issues. Don't dilute the NRA with multiple issues when there is greater strength by concentrating on one.

Now NRA members are the same as any other American citizen and should be invovled in getting the UN the hell out of our business, but not the organization itself IMHO.



Maybe I should clarify what I meant when I wrote this topic.

Clearly from the stand point that "WE the PEOPLE" should be sending a message to the U.N. that "we" will not stand for the global controlling antics of the U.N. as they would place them on the US. I did not mean that the NRA should take them on. Only that a comment by LaPierre about the U.N. was accurate. On that note I couldn't agree with you more.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 6:32:07 PM EST
I'd like to see the US pull out of the UN and take our tax dollars with 'em!!!

The UN is just a stepping stone to giving up more of our rights/freedom.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 6:51:13 PM EST
I got that mail too, but Wayne can't debate himself out of a paper bag. THE WRONG MAN FOR THE JOB! I predict he will make a fool out of himself and luckily NOBODY will pay to watch him do it!
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 6:54:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By SANGUINE:

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:
Yes, but I think we should also...

img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/RicArmstrong/Humor/armbeetlejuicelo-fi.jpg

It's the only way to make sure we retain our democracy.



Isn't beetlejuice dead?



Who cares?


Fuck Howard Stern with Robin's dick.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 6:57:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By spork:
I voted "hell yes," but could we please get somebody other than Wayne to debate the issue?


+1,000,000
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 9:15:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By SANGUINE:

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:
Yes, but I think we should also...

img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/RicArmstrong/Humor/armbeetlejuicelo-fi.jpg

It's the only way to make sure we retain our democracy.



Isn't beetlejuice dead?



Who cares?


Fuck Howard Stern with Robin's dick.



Ditto!
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 9:17:40 PM EST
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