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Posted: 8/7/2005 1:29:23 PM EDT
Don't know why so may here have slammed it. I like it. Lots of action...

I'm curious, though. First off, is the concept behind the movie (that the Codetalkers had "escorts" with orders to protect the code) true, and if so, is there any documented case where they actually had to do it?

Just curious...
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:16:05 PM EDT
ANYONE?

Not even a comment on how the movie sucks?
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:16:44 PM EDT
Friggin officers.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:19:07 PM EDT
As far as recent WWII genre movies, it blew balls.

It was alright, told a decent story about a real aspect of history... but IIRC, John Woo directed it... and I don't think WWII is really his forte.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:21:04 PM EDT
I have read that the bit where codetalkers were assigned a "watcher" with orders to kill them if capture seemed imminent was not accurate historically.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:57:59 PM EDT
Reminded me of the typical cheesy 60s WWII flicks.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:59:04 PM EDT
I turned it off after 10 minutes.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:01:41 PM EDT
Just watch the movie and forget about the details
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:07:52 PM EDT
I liked it, and I've seen it 4 times now.

HH
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:21:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 3:23:46 PM EDT by Sukebe]

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
ANYONE?

Not even a comment on how the movie sucks?



It sucks hard. It swallows, spits it up and swallows again. It was called Windtalkers. It was supposed to be about the Navajo code talkers. The code talker angle was simply a gimmick to tell the story of Nick Cages character. I can only guess that once Cage was selcted for the part he insisted on a bigger part and John Woo didn't really give a shit about the story. He just wanted his trade mark unrealistic, big firey explosions and a name to draw people in to see them. So he gave Cage what he wanted and had the re write done and screwed the code talkers. It was Pearl Harbor all over again. A compelling story turned in to a steaming pile of poop. Hurray for Hollywood! The filthy money grubbing cocksuckers.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:25:42 PM EDT
Really, tell us how you feel.
Don't hold back.


Originally Posted By Sukebe:
It sucks hard. It swallows, spits it up and swallows again. It was called Windtalkers. It was supposed to be about the Navajo code talkers. The code talker angle was simply a gimmick to tell the story of Nick Cages character. I can only guess that once Cage was selcted for the part he insisted on a bigger part and John Woo didn't really give a shit about the story. He just wanted his trade mark unrealistic, big firey explosions and a name to draw people in to see them. So he gave Cage what he wanted and had the re write done and screwed the code talkers. It was Pearl Harbor all over again. A compelling story turned in to a steaming pile of poop. Hurray for Hollywood! The filthy money grubbing cocksuckers.

Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:27:09 PM EDT
it looks like CA and looked really fake for some reason.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:28:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 3:29:08 PM EDT by FightingHellfish]
It sucked.

The Codetalkers deserved better, despite their perpetual whining since the end of the war.

A Codetalkers Veterans group has actually made a big production out of demanding that all the Codetalkers be awarded the Medal of Honor. Congress actually gave in and issued a special Codetalkers commemorative medal, but they still want the MoH.

Cheesy, but not as cheesy as that movie.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:29:23 PM EDT

I'm afraid I have to agree with SUKEBE . It seemed to be all about Nicholas Cage . It was just
WAY TOO Hollywood to be taken serious .
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:40:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 3:41:17 PM EDT by redfisher]

Originally Posted By djohns6:
I'm afraid I have to agree with SUKEBE . It seemed to be all about Nicholas Cage . It was just
WAY TOO Hollywood to be taken serious .



true. and he is an awful actor

although it did have a few realistic looking battle scenes

there fixed it
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:52:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Just watch the movie and forget about the details



That's about my take on it....


The Codetalkers DEMANDED a MOH?

Uh.......... Yeah.

The sound you hear is that of dead MOH recipients rolling in their graves.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 4:03:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:

It was alright, told a decent story about a real aspect of history... but IIRC, John Woo directed it... and I don't think WWII is really his forte.



Come on! They had Berettas in WWII!
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 4:10:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
As far as recent WWII genre movies, it blew balls.

It was alright, told a decent story about a real aspect of history... but IIRC, John Woo directed it... and I don't think WWII is really his forte.



Couldn't have said it better myself!
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 4:19:39 PM EDT
windtalkers =
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 4:24:13 PM EDT
Cage is a good reason to NOT see, well, anything he's in.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 4:58:36 PM EDT
Average at best. Special effects sucked. How do bullets hitting at the enemy's feet, flinging up dirt and shit, kill them? Every damn shot. Lame.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 5:25:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rebel_Marine:
Average at best. Special effects sucked. How do bullets hitting at the enemy's feet, flinging up dirt and shit, kill them? Every damn shot. Lame.



Because MARINES were doing the shooting.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 5:27:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By prk:
Cage is a good reason to NOT see, well, anything he's in.



I'll disagree, but only for "Bringing out the dead".
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 5:28:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 5:29:16 PM EDT by skid2964]

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Lots of action...




Thats just it .... it played like a cheap action movie from the 80's. Lots of gasoline explosions, shooting spraying their Thompson's from the hip .... Cage's horrible acting ... it was all very cheesy.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:17:26 PM EDT
Why isn't this in the movie forum?
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:19:08 PM EDT
Would you drag a rotting dead animal into your house?
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:24:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tango7:

Originally Posted By prk:
Cage is a good reason to NOT see, well, anything he's in.



I'll disagree, but only for "Bringing out the dead".



I will disagree too, but for "The Rock". "Leaving Las Vegas", and "Matchstick Men"
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:30:16 PM EDT
cheesy yes, but enough M1 Garands, Carbines, Thompsons and 1911's to keep me entertained
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:37:19 PM EDT
Nicholas Cage was awesome in Raising Arizona. And maybe Adaptation.

Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:38:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
As far as recent WWII genre movies, it blew balls.

It was alright, told a decent story about a real aspect of history... but IIRC, John Woo directed it... and I don't think WWII is really his forte.



It was a bunch of manufactured crap about a real aspect of history. The whole premise that officers were to shoot Windtalkers was BS.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:39:27 PM EDT
I always enjoy battle scenes on the widescreen and in surround sound
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 11:14:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1911greg:
it looks like CA and looked really fake for some reason.



That is because part of it WAS in California... If you look close, you can see snow by some of the bushes. Some fill-in shots and re-takes were done off of Soledad Cyn Rd. just south of Acton, Ca, 30 miles north of Los Angeles.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 1:56:22 AM EDT
It was overdone. John Woo strikes again making unbelievable movies.

Max
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 2:15:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 2:20:28 AM EDT
Windtalkers did have soon really good action scenes. So I guess if you ignore the rest, it's a great movie.
One of my friends brothers was an extra in that movie
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 2:35:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sukebe:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
ANYONE?

Not even a comment on how the movie sucks?



It sucks hard. It swallows, spits it up and swallows again. It was called Windtalkers. It was supposed to be about the Navajo code talkers. The code talker angle was simply a gimmick to tell the story of Nick Cages character. I can only guess that once Cage was selcted for the part he insisted on a bigger part and John Woo didn't really give a shit about the story. He just wanted his trade mark unrealistic, big firey explosions and a name to draw people in to see them. So he gave Cage what he wanted and had the re write done and screwed the code talkers. It was Pearl Harbor all over again. A compelling story turned in to a steaming pile of poop. Hurray for Hollywood! The filthy money grubbing cocksuckers.




absolutely, nicholas cage sucks big balls!!
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 3:10:39 AM EDT
the parts where the Japanese were using swords to cut up US soldiers is quite true, at least it was true when the Japanese invaded China.
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