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Posted: 10/12/2004 7:49:17 PM EDT
Posted elsewhere on the net.   All I can say is Huh???

Claim: The outcome of Washington Redskins football games has correctly predicted the winner of every U.S. presidential election since 1936.

Status: True.

Did you know....??

The Washington Redskins have proved to be a time-tested election predictor. In the previous 15 elections, if the Washington Redskins have lost their last home game prior to the election, the incumbent party has lost the White House. When they have won, the incumbent has stayed in power.

This election year, that deciding game takes place on Sunday, October 31 ... vs. Green Bay.

Go Pack!!!

Origins: Our desire to understand and assert some control over the world around us is often manifested by our attempts to find predictive signs that enable us to prognosticate events — even Vote when there is no seeming connection between predictor and event. Sometimes one natural phenomenon supposedly forecasts another, as in the belief that a groundhog's seeing his shadow on February 2 portends another six weeks of winter. In other instances the linkage is between affairs of mankind, as in the superstition that the winner of football's Super Bowl augurs that year's stock market performance (or vice-versa).

A recent item of this ilk maintains that the results of the last game played at home by the NFL's Washington Redskins (a football team based in the national capital, Washington, D.C.) before the U.S. presidential elections has accurately foretold the winner of the last fifteen of those political contests, going back to 1944. If the Redskins win their last home game before the election, the party that occupies the White House continues to hold it; if the Redskins lose that last home game, the challenging party's candidate unseats the incumbent president. While we don't presume there is anything more than a random correlation between these factors, it is the case that the pattern has held true even longer than claimed, stretching back over seventeen presidential elections since 1936:

* On 30 October 2000 the Washington Redskins lost a Monday night game at home to the Tennessee Titans, 27-21, presaging a loss for the incumbent Democratic party. Since President Bill Clinton had already been elected to the constitutionally-mandated maximum of two terms in office, the 7 November 2000 presidential election pitted Democratic Vice-President Al Gore against Republican Governor George W. Bush of Texas. In the closest (and most controversial) presidential election since 1876, Governor Bush gained the White House by the slim margin of five electoral votes, thereby fulfilling the Redskin prophecy.


* On 27 October 1996 the Washington Redskins defeated the Indianapolis Colts at home, 31-16, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Sure enough, in the 5 November 1996 general election, Democratic President Bill Clinton won re-election over his Republican challenger, Senator Bob Dole of Kansas.


* On 1 November 1992 the Washington Redskins lost to the New York Giants at home, 24-7, predicting a similar loss for the incumbent Republicans. As expected, in the 3 November 1992, Republican President George H. W. lost his re-election bid to Governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas.


* On 6 November 1988 the Washington Redskins edged the New Orleans Saints at home, 27-24, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans. As President Ronald Reagan had already been elected twice, the 8 November 1988 election once again matched a sitting Vice-President, Republican George H. W. Bush, against a challenger, Democratic Governor Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts. True to form, Vice-President Bush emerged victorious.


* On 5 November 1984 the Washington Redskins bested the Atlanta Falcons in a Monday night home game, 27-14, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans. The next day, President Ronald Reagan handily defeated his Democratic challenger, former Vice-President and Senator Walter F. Mondale of Minnesota, winning re-election with an electoral vote landslide.


* On 2 November 1980 the Washington Redskins were trounced at home by the Minnesota Vikings, 39-14, predicting a loss for the incumbent Democrats. As expected, on 4 November 1980 President Jimmy Carter failed in his re-election bid, losing to his Republican opponent, former California governor Ronald Reagan.


* On 31 October 1976 the Washington Redskins were spooked by the Dallas Cowboys in a Halloween Day home game, losing 20-7 and predicting a loss for the incumbent Republicans. Two days later, on 2 November 1976, Democratic Governor Jimmy Carter of Georgia unseated President Gerald Ford (who had been appointed Vice-President after the resignation of Spiro Agnew in 1973 and became chief executive in 1974 after President Richard Nixon also resigned).


* On 22 October 1972 the Washington Redskins edged the Dallas Cowboys, 24-20, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans. The 7 November 1972 election resulted in the electoral vote landslide re-election of President Richard Nixon over the Democratic nominee, Senator George McGovern of South Dakota.


* On 27 October 1968 the Washington Redskins lost a close game to the New York Giants, 13-10, predicting a loss for the incumbent Democrats. Since President Lyndon B. Johnson had announced several months earlier that he would not seek another term as president, the 1968 election was a contest between sitting Vice-President Hubert Humphrey and a former Vice-President, Republican Richard Nixon. In a mirror of the Redskins game, the Democrats lost in a close contest (the two candidates were separated by a slim 0.6% margin in the popular vote).


* On 25 October 1964 the Washington Redskins beat the Chicago Bears, 27-20, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. As predicted, on 3 November 1964 President Lyndon Johnson (who had ascended to the White House after the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963) won a landslide victory over Republican Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona.


* On 30 October 1960 the Washington Redskins were pasted at home by the Cleveland Browns, 31-10, predicting a loss for the incumbent Republicans. President Dwight D. Eisenhower had already served two terms, so Vice-President Richard Nixon took up the Republican mantle against Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts in the 8 November 1960 presidential election. Like the Redskins, the Republicans lost; unlike the Redskins, the Republicans made the contest a very close one. (Kennedy bested Nixon by a mere 0.2% margin in the popular vote.)


* On 21 October 1956 the Washington Redskins soundly defeated the Cleveland Browns at home, 20-9, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans on 6 November 1956. And, for the second straight election, the Republicans and their standard-bearer, Dwight D. Eisenhower, prevailed over the Democratic nominee, Adlai Stevenson.


* On 2 November 1952 the Washington Redskins lost a squeaker to the Pittsburgh Steelers at home, 24-23, predicting a similar loss for the incumbent Democrats. President Harry S. Truman declined to run for re-election (he had already served eight years), leaving the field open for former Illinois governor Adlai Stevenson to stand against the Republican candidate, General Dwight D. Eisenhower. The Democrats' loss on 4 November 1952 was not nearly as close as the Redskins' had been.


* On 31 October 1948, the Washington Redskins walloped the Boston Yanks at home, 59-21, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Two days later, In one of the most stunning political upsets in U.S. history, President Harry S. Truman (who had assumed office in 1945 when President Franklin D. Roosevelt died shortly after beginning his fourth term) defeated his Republican challenger, Governor Thomas E. Dewey of New York.


* On 5 November 1944, the Washington Redskins trimmed the Cleveland Rams at home, 14-10, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. And win the Democrats did, as President Franklin D. Roosevelt secured an unprecedented fourth term by defeating the Republican nominee, Thomas Dewey, on 7 November 1944.


* On 3 November 1940, the Washington Redskins thrashed the Pittsburgh Pirates (forebears of today's Steelers team) at home, 37-10, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Likewise, Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt became the first (and only) three-term president as he thrashed Republican challenger Wendell Wilkie of New York (a former Democrat who had never held high elected office) on 5 November 1940.


* Going back to 1936 puts us beyond the beginnings of the Washington Redskins, as that year the Redskins franchise was still playing in Boston. Nonetheless, their knack for foretelling the outcome of presidential elections was already in place. On 1 November 1936 the Boston Redskins downed the Chicago Cardinals at Fenway Park, 13-10, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Two days later, President Franklin D. Roosevelt won his re-election over Republican Governor Alf Landon of Kansas.

That is as far back as the streak goes. In 1932 the Washington Redskins were neither the Redskins nor a Washington team: they were the Boston Braves, and they played in Braves Field, which they shared with the National League baseball team of the same name. On 6 November 1932 they won at home against the Staten Island Stapletons, 19-6, a result that should have foretold a presidential victory for the incumbent Republican party. Neither the Redskins' team name nor their predictive powers were yet evident, however, as President Herbert Hoover lost to his Democratic challenger, Governor Franklin Delano Roosevelt of New York on 8 November 1932

What do we make of all this? Nothing. We see it as coincidence, as evidence that anyone who tries long and hard enough can find apparent patterns in any collection of data. But for those who believe in this sort of thing, the Redskins' last home game before the 2 November 2004 election is a Halloween Day contest against the Green Bay Packers — Republican supporters will be rooting for the Redskins, and Democratic supporters will become Cheeseheads for a day.



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Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:56:48 PM EDT
[#1]
GO 'SKINS!!!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:24:10 AM EDT
[#2]
The Skins really suck this year.  
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:27:08 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
The Skins really suck this year.  



Just this year?  

Being a Redskin fan sucks, but I have to stick to my team.  
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:29:48 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
The Skins really suck this year.  



So do the Pack, fortunately.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:30:17 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
The Skins really suck this year.  




Not as much as the Pack.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:31:57 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
The Skins really suck this year.  



So do the Packers
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:32:13 AM EDT
[#7]
There's an Amber Alert out on the Packer's Defensive line in case you guys haven't heard.

Unfortunately, it's going to be another case of: Live by the Favre, die by the Favre.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:32:25 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
The Skins really suck this year.  



Green Bay sucks more.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:34:49 AM EDT
[#9]
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:44:32 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
and people think my threads on election polling are useless...



Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:17:33 AM EDT
[#11]
Utter and total BS.

If you look hard enough, you'll be able to find some pattern, in some thing, some where, that predicts whatever it is you're trying to predict.


Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:35:48 AM EDT
[#12]
If you look you'll find that Scientists did a study, They discovered a startling fact. They found that where there are more churches (density) there is also a higher crime rate in a given region. Conclusion- Churches cause crime! End of story for me. see ya!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:54:35 AM EDT
[#13]
Team................W.......L.......T.......PCT....PF......PA.....Home..Road....AFC....NFC...DIV.....Streak
Washington 1 4 0 .200 71 85 1-2 0-2 0-2 1-2 0-2 Lost 4
Green Bay 1 4 0 .200 99 142 0-3 1-1 0-2 1-2 0-1 Lost 4

ESPN's power rankings have the Pack at 24 and the Skins at 27.

However, the Points For and Points Against tell me this:
Green Bay's offense is slightly stronger than Washington's.
Washington's defense is much stronger than Green Bay's.

Next week, Washington will play Chicago, and will probably win.  Green Bay will play Detroit, and will probably lose.

The following week, Washington has a bye, and Green Bay will play Dallas, and will probably lose.

This means that the Redskins will be coming off a win and an open week, and will be rested and ready to beat the Packers, who will be further demoralized by their 1-6 record.

Brisk322's SWAG of a score prediction:
Washington 20
Green Bay 17

The obligatory SWAG of electoral votes (based purely on the score):
Bush  289
Kerry  245

Please don't hold me to these numbers.
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