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Posted: 8/23/2017 12:34:28 AM EDT
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kill the thread if it is a dupe.  I did a search on Big Boy and Taze.

Red
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 12:39:55 AM EDT
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First time I've heard of it, and I live within minutes of there.  That's Surfer: The Bar in Jax Beach.

When did this happen?  Need more details to tell whether it's a good or bad takedown I guess.  On the video alone, and not judging whether a takedown was warranted, it looks like a bad takedown as far as execution is concerned.  Two failed tasers, inability to control the suspect physically, and some ineffective baton beating before a taser was finally deployed correctly.  Not exactly textbook, was it?

Dude was given clear commands.  "Get on the ground".  He chose poorly, even if the situation didn't warrant such an aggressive response in the first place.

Edit:  Happened in April.  Surprised I didn't hear about it.  Guy walked out on a tab and punched a bouncer.  Takedown was warranted, execution was awful.  So, good takedown in principle, bad takedown in execution
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 12:45:12 AM EDT
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Says he punched a bouncer and walked on on his bar tab. So, good attempted taze 2x and 3rd time for the charm.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 12:47:09 AM EDT
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That sir should have turned around when he had the chance.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 12:47:38 AM EDT
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He was given a lawful order and refused to follow it. He had just committed a crime. He's lucky all he got was tased. Fat piece of shit.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 12:48:28 AM EDT
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You mean use of force isn't perfectly choreographed like in movies?
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 2:13:35 AM EDT
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or training scenarios for that matter.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 2:16:52 AM EDT
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In glad that woman cop was there to assist
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 2:44:48 AM EDT
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Walked out on a $235 bar tab and punched a bouncer.   Fuck him.  Good takedown.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:04:03 AM EDT
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That moment when your silly little asp doesn't work on the mountain leg.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:04:09 AM EDT
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I've fought guys that big before there were tasers. You either used your nightsticks to strike the knees to bring them drown, which I never did.

Or I use carotid artery holds. They were out in about 10 seconds. No fuss and injuries.

Then there were the times it came down to a slugfest.

It was the 70's and 80's. Fuck it.

Ed
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:13:52 AM EDT
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I've fought guys that big before there were tasers. You either used your nightsticks to strike the knees to bring them drown, which I never did.

Or I use carotid artery holds. They were out in about 10 seconds. No fuss and injuries.

Then there were the times it came down to a slugfest.

It was the 70's and 80's. Fuck it.

Ed
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My dad used to tell me the best place to hit them was across the shins.
He says never had to hit them more than twice.

ETA: That was the 70's as well.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:21:52 AM EDT
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Legit UoF.

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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:31:05 AM EDT
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Good take down, surprised more force was not used, and it seems like the LEO was asking and tried, shit did not work with super sized drunk dude.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:33:47 AM EDT
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"I'm not resisting"
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:57:08 AM EDT
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Walked out on a $235 bar tab and punched a bouncer.   Fuck him.  Good takedown.
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:03:21 AM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXK5Mwc4ZcM

kill the thread if it is a dupe.  I did a search on Big Boy and Taze.

Red
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cop "get on the ground!"


fatty "I'm not resisting" as he walks around completely ignoring what the cop tells him to the point of taking several shots to the knee. Great plan.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:11:12 AM EDT
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I wonder how many times Leo "equality" has gotten someone hurt or killed.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:15:41 AM EDT
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I'm good with it. The only thing that made me cringe was when he hit his head on the way down. It could have been reeeeeal bad.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:58:36 AM EDT
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I laughed when the female cop got involved.  "Let me help... OH FUCK! He see me, run!"
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:02:49 AM EDT
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One of the many, many reasons I haven't been to Jax Beach in over a decade.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:15:54 AM EDT
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I laughed when the female cop got involved.  "Let me help... OH FUCK! He see me, run!"
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Have they promoted her to general yet? 
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:20:30 AM EDT
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Tasing him just makes him stronger, like Godzilla.

Shouldn't he have been going for the back of the knee with the baton rather than the thigh?
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:49:26 AM EDT
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The chokehold the black cop tried to put on him doesn't get used much anymore. I can tell you if done right, you will be out in a couple seconds because we used to use it and had it used on us in training. If you get it locked in, they are out before they even realize they are going to sleep. With such a thin stick though, I'd worry about crushing the windpipe, we used nightsticks.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:52:28 AM EDT
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Tasing him just makes him stronger, like Godzilla.

Shouldn't he have been going for the back of the knee with the baton rather than the thigh?
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Don't know about the agency in question, but for us the knees and groin are red.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:52:29 AM EDT
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Damn, that was a big boy.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:55:18 AM EDT
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Says he punched a bouncer and walked on on his bar tab. So, good attempted taze 2x and 3rd time for the charm.
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Yeah, If this is the same one I heard on the news.  Bar tab was iirc $250+....He may have been a weeee bit drunk.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:23:14 AM EDT
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<--- Jax.  It takes a lot to rile up cops around here.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:32:58 AM EDT
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or training scenarios for that matter.
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Or retention of good training.

Funny how people resort to cave man instincts when they get stressed.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:40:16 AM EDT
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My dad used to tell me the best place to hit them was across the shins.
He says never had to hit them more than twice.

ETA: That was the 70's as well.
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Good solid whacks to the shin can be really effective, especially if followed up by a heel stomp to the big toe.  The heel stomp part can be dicey, though, because to really get it in there, you're way too close.  And they're frowned upon.  Not that I've ever actually broken someone's big toe that way.  Not me.   No sir.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:54:41 AM EDT
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Good. UOF always looks bad but that was well within whatever policy they likely have.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:57:13 AM EDT
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Good cause for takedown, bad technique.

Every beat cop should have at least a few months of wrestling, judo and/or BJJ. I really wouldn't want that job without at least a basic understanding of how to move people around.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:59:44 AM EDT
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Good takedown.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:07:21 AM EDT
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Yeah...no kiddin....useless
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:08:36 AM EDT
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Damn, that was a big boy.
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Definitely a whopper going on there.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:16:10 AM EDT
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was looking for this. knees were red for me too.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:26:12 AM EDT
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Yeah...no kiddin....useless
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As tactics and training continue to evolve, maybe someone will find a way to make the peripheral anxious schoolmarm useful when taking down a drunken sasquatch.

In fact, there may very well come a day when you wouldn't dream of going into battle without your tubby little diversity hire waddling along behind you.

Y'all need to stop being so negative and realize that her day just hasn't come yet.
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