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Posted: 6/10/2002 2:45:00 PM EST
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,54918,00.html[/url] [b]'Strike First' to Become Formal U.S. Policy[/b] ...national security strategy will include a new "strike first" military policy against terrorists and rogue states that possess chemical, biological or nuclear weapons, the White House said Monday. "The war on terror will not be won on the defensive. ... We must take the battle to the enemy, disrupt its plans, and confront the worst threats before they emerge," Bush told graduating cadets. Ok... If we are going to strike first, and we have already declared Iraq a roque state, that it is developing ( or already possess) weapons of mass destruction, that Saddam is a threat to the civilized world, then changing our policy means we are declaring war on Iraq, right? TheRedGoat
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 2:48:34 PM EST
I'm not holding my breath. The day this PC'd country attacks first is the day that shows we actually are doing something to defend ourselves. That would rock to the moral of any country opposed to us. Strike first, and hit em hard!
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 10:00:07 PM EST
Too smart to be true. We can only wish.
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 10:03:12 PM EST
TRG, I sense some pent up aggression in your last few posts.
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 10:13:26 PM EST
Originally Posted By TheRedGoat: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,54918,00.html[/url] [b]'Strike First' to Become Formal U.S. Policy[/b] ...national security strategy will include a new "strike first" military policy against terrorists and rogue states that possess chemical, biological or nuclear weapons, the White House said Monday. "The war on terror will not be won on the defensive. ... We must take the battle to the enemy, disrupt its plans, and confront the worst threats before they emerge," Bush told graduating cadets. Ok... If we are going to strike first, and we have already declared Iraq a roque state, that it is developing ( or already possess) weapons of mass destruction, that Saddam is a threat to the civilized world, then changing our policy means we are declaring war on Iraq, right? TheRedGoat
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Well, we can count out Iraq then, since Saddam isn't a threat to the civilized world and isn't developing WMD. BTW, not we are not declaring war on Iraq. Only Congress can do that, not some policy change by the President.
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 10:17:49 PM EST
If we weren't the paragons of virtue in this war of horror, we probably should have planted a few radiactive mushrooms over Iraq on 9/12... Scott
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 10:23:04 PM EST
I think you wont see much as far as any strikes on any nation until after the Elections in November. My opinion, and observation is that Mr. Bush is playing the compasionate conservative role, might as well say liberal role because that is what it really is,[puke] to try to get as many swing votes for the republican party as possible. The house and the senate are at stake, and his brother in Florida is up for re-election against Reno's dog and pony show. Politics is killing our nation.[pissed] I think there is alot of stragegizing going on politically, plus I think it would be safe to say that since Mr. Rumsfeld just visited the troops in the Middle east, the US military already has a war plan for the middle east all ready to go. I would actually hope that after the elections in November that the gloves would finally come off and Bush would turn our forces loose on Sadam, and he would let the riens go on Israel so that they could wipe out the palistinians once and for all. Wouldn't that be a blast, United States going after Sadam, and Israel going after Arafat's army of killers. Although the Kuwaiti's might be of some concern because the royal family there has given into the Islamic Extremeist there, and most of the Kuwaiti royal family dont really like the US government, mainly because we support Israel, What away to pay us back for liberateing there country from Sudam. Plus you got the Saudi government also. Ah hell might as well just have a full out war on the whole middle east. Wipe them all out, and take over the oil fields. Gas back down to 10 cents a gallon, well one can dream cant they. I can just hear the French,Amnesty Internations,NATO,all the liberals in Europe, and all the Peace activists in America know.......[puke]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 4:07:05 AM EST
Originally Posted By libertyof76: Well, we can count out Iraq then, since Saddam isn't a threat to the civilized world and isn't developing WMD.
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ROFLMAO! Oh yeah, whatever. I will certainly take YOUR word for it...
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 4:31:30 AM EST
Our present policy of "Israel First" has deprived the U.S. of any European support and any support from the Muslim countries. We will not attack Iraq unilaterally and have no allies. Therefore, Iraq remains as presently constituted.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 4:40:21 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:49:39 AM EST
Patience.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:57:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By 5subslr5: Our present policy of "Israel First" has deprived the U.S. of any European support and any support from the Muslim countries. We will not attack Iraq unilaterally and have no allies. Therefore, Iraq remains as presently constituted.
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If you believe that is due to the so called policy "Israel first" (never heard about it in official and unofficial speech of US Govt. members...) that you don't get Eu support for war on terror you are a naive person. If you believe that is due to the so called policy "Israel first" (never heard about it in official and unofficial speech of US Govt. members...) that you don't get support from Muslim nations, you're dangerously stupid... I have to tell you one thing, subsailor: THEY WANT TO SUBMIT YOU! TO DESTROY YOUR BELOVED DEMOCRACY!... got the message? [:)]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:00:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By DScottHewitt: If we weren't the paragons of virtue in this war of horror, we probably should have planted a few radiactive mushrooms over Iraq on 9/12... Scott
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It's "Shake & Bake".. Kin I help??
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:10:00 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:13:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:27:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By libertyof76: Well, we can count out Iraq then, since Saddam isn't a threat to the civilized world and isn't developing WMD.
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ROFLMAO! Oh yeah, whatever. I will certainly take YOUR word for it...
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yeah, ole libertyof76, well versed in world matters. another one of those armchair: politicians warriors experts self-proclaimed know-it-all
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:38:15 AM EST
Take this seriously. Bush is not a stupid man, nor are his advisors. For the first time in nearly a decade, we have far thinking, pragmatic and conservative adults operating from the White House. The threat is very real. This is not hype. Saddam is working around the clock to acquire WMDs and when he does...so do the terrorists. He was doing this before the Gulf War and he hasn't let up. Truth is...we always had the "First Strike" in our war options, both conventional and nuclear. We just abstained from admitting it publicly. This above ALL must be remembered: The President takes and oath to, "...preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States." If that means he and the NCA order a nuclear first strike based upon [irrifutable?] evidence that the United States was about suffer greatly at the hands of an enemy...then he and his advisors, military and civilian would order just such an attack. The liberal, can't-we-just-all-get-along crowd can wring their mitts all they want...and after the mushroom cloud settles they can pitch a fit and call for hearings...but at least they will be ALIVE to do so. THAT is the truth. Most of the worlds' more savvy leaders understand this very well. Some are going to take some more convincing though and Saddam is probably high on that [short] list. President Bush must carry through with his plans to eradicate terrorists throughout the world. That will take a long time and a lot of effort...but it can be done. Our biggest challenge will be right here at home...keeping the weeping willy's at bay and our spines straight. All our lives are at risk until we finish the job.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:40:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/11/2002 6:42:49 AM EST by Benjamin0001]
I love America, but for all that she is in deep trouble... its that simple. We are doing a great job of fighting them here at home, and we are winning in afghanistan.... But America is in deep trouble, more trouble than she has ever been in since her inception...... This is going to be the dirtiest war ever, and its going to suck the big one all the way around. And when its over the US will not be looked upon as a glorious victor that she will be, she will be hated even more...... Because she is RIGHT, and GOOD, and a Survivor, and that is the truth. She will be held in disdain for it. .... Because in this war , America is fighting not to save the world, but to Save herself. And that is the one thing that in this day and age, most nations on this planet doesn't think she has the right to do. She Does!! So fuckem lets get it on.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:52:21 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 8:52:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By redray:
Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By libertyof76: Well, we can count out Iraq then, since Saddam isn't a threat to the civilized world and isn't developing WMD.
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ROFLMAO! Oh yeah, whatever. I will certainly take YOUR word for it...
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yeah, ole libertyof76, well versed in world matters. another one of those armchair: politicians warriors experts self-proclaimed know-it-all
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And you would be: armchair: politicians warriors experts self-proclaimed know-it-all ???
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