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Posted: 9/20/2004 7:33:16 AM EST
Sam is rolling in his grave.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:35:59 AM EST
What a society of pussies.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:37:49 AM EST
For you folks that can, it's another excuse to attend your local gunshow.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:38:32 AM EST
Supply chain management--they only want to sell stuff that can be sold in all their stores, in all 50 states.

So what will happen if a major gun ban goes through in say, Kali? Will Wally World then not sell any guns at all?

Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:38:41 AM EST
Citation, please. I'd like to see it from a reliable source.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:38:48 AM EST
Link?
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:39:57 AM EST
Well, Fuck them!

they aren't illegal.

You know laws right?

Those things that you must abide by to conform to the social contract.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:40:35 AM EST
well, i'll just have to give my $ to someone else
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:41:59 AM EST
This would not surprise me, and you can't really blame them. HiCap mags and "assault weapons" are really specialist products compared with (say) the Ruger 10/22. Their sales volume is unlikely to justify the supply chain headaches and political fallout. WalMart is a smart company, and has decided there is no percentage in these products. Actually, its good news as it funnels some business back to the mom-n-pop gunstores.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:45:08 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:45:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 7:47:29 AM EST by JIMBEAM]

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
This would not surprise me, and you can't really blame them. HiCap mags and "assault weapons" are really specialist products compared with (say) the Ruger 10/22. Their sales volume is unlikely to justify the supply chain headaches and political fallout. WalMart is a smart company, and has decided there is no percentage in these products. Actually, its good news as it funnels some business back to the mom-n-pop gunstores.



Do you think normal cap 10/22 mags are specialist products?

If the mom and pop places here didn't have their heads up their assess I would buy from them. I will probably order them from an internet site.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:46:55 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:48:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By shotar:

Originally Posted By JIMBEAM:

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
This would not surprise me, and you can't really blame them. HiCap mags and "assault weapons" are really specialist products compared with (say) the Ruger 10/22. Their sales volume is unlikely to justify the supply chain headaches and political fallout. WalMart is a smart company, and has decided there is no percentage in these products. Actually, its good news as it funnels some business back to the mom-n-pop gunstores.



Do you think normal cap 10/22 mags are specialist products?



Normal cap 10/22 mags are 10 rounds. That is what the 10 before the slash stands for.



so the bolt action 77/22 uses standard capacity 77 round magazines?
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:49:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By shotar:

Originally Posted By JIMBEAM:

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
This would not surprise me, and you can't really blame them. HiCap mags and "assault weapons" are really specialist products compared with (say) the Ruger 10/22. Their sales volume is unlikely to justify the supply chain headaches and political fallout. WalMart is a smart company, and has decided there is no percentage in these products. Actually, its good news as it funnels some business back to the mom-n-pop gunstores.



Do you think normal cap 10/22 mags are specialist products?



Normal cap 10/22 mags are 10 rounds. That is what the 10 before the slash stands for.



True but Wal Mart carried 25 round magazines before the ban. They couldn't keep them in stock in 1994. I had a friend that worked in sporting goods order an extra box and hold it for me.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:50:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:53:21 AM EST
So?

They dont' have a problem selling other guns and the ammo to feed them?

Sounds like a double standard.

I have it when a big company is going to decide what I can buy in their store. It makes me vote with my wallet.

I think it is funny how walgreens and eckards will not carry a good selection of gun magines (paper) but will have the true crimes, cosmo, and national inquirers you could want.

rant off

Badredfish
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:53:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
This would not surprise me, and you can't really blame them. HiCap mags and "assault weapons" are really specialist products compared with (say) the Ruger 10/22. Their sales volume is unlikely to justify the supply chain headaches and political fallout. WalMart is a smart company, and has decided there is no percentage in these products. Actually, its good news as it funnels some business back to the mom-n-pop gunstores.


All of their replenishments of inventory are done with computer programs, Wall-Mart mgmt can just changed their computers to refuse to ship to states where normal mags are restricted. Most of the people on the sales floor don't know what's delivered their stores until they open the container. Didn't Wall-Mart used to sell pistols in their sporting goods dept?
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:01:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By warlord:

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
This would not surprise me, and you can't really blame them. HiCap mags and "assault weapons" are really specialist products compared with (say) the Ruger 10/22. Their sales volume is unlikely to justify the supply chain headaches and political fallout. WalMart is a smart company, and has decided there is no percentage in these products. Actually, its good news as it funnels some business back to the mom-n-pop gunstores.


All of their replenishments of inventory are done with computer programs, Wall-Mart mgmt can just changed their computers to refuse to ship to states where normal mags are restricted. Most of the people on the sales floor don't know what's delivered their stores until they open the container. Didn't Wall-Mart used to sell pistols in their sporting goods dept?



yes they used to sell handguns, but it was through their special order program. the only stores left that do still carry handguns are the alaska stores. if you have a good dept manager at your local walmart they can order you an AR-15. it is not in the special order books. they would have to call the distributor (lipseys or sports south are the 2 that wally world use) and order directly from them. most of the manager are to afraid to do it though.

I still haven't seen a link to this "story", just one person saying the sky is falling.....
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:03:09 AM EST
I don't see how Walmart can expect to NOT sell Hi-cap mags.

Eventually, production will ramp up and the majority of new mags will be hi-caps. A smaller quantity of low-caps will be produced for states the like of Cali. There will not be enough low caps produced for Wally World to only seel them in their stores throughout the nation.

They will sell hi-caps, or they will not sell mags at all outside of Ban states.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:10:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By Collin:
Citation, please. I'd like to see it from a reliable source.




Dude, I heard two of the illegals that work at the in house Mickey D's talking about it in Spanglish during their lunch break, so it must be true
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:11:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
Supply chain management--they only want to sell stuff that can be sold in all their stores, in all 50 states.

So what will happen if a major gun ban goes through in say, Kali? Will Wally World then not sell any guns at all?




How did that policy affect the firearms they sell? Are they all legal in NY and similar states? But they still carry them, right?
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:14:16 AM EST
I asked at the Walmart in Moscow, ID and was told "Walmart policy is that we won't sell high capacity clips" I corrected him that they are magazines and he said that they are the same thing, I told him they wern't as I was walking away. Just one more reason to hate Walmart.

Brian
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:20:31 AM EST
Oh well. I voted with my wallet already when it comes to Wal-Mart. Only use them for the essentials when traveling because of the convenience factor.

Never set foot in one at home.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:27:53 AM EST
Unless I see a valid link or letter from their Corporate office, I'm calling BS and stating that it might be just a local issue but not a Corporate one.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:29:08 AM EST
This isn't going to turn into one of the "Poor Me!" threads is it?

It doesn't surprise me at all.

If all they started selling was just normal cap magazines and not "Tactical Holster's, slings etc" then you/me/we would be griping about that.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:31:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 8:31:58 AM EST by Robbie]
For the past...uh...year (on and off), I've been doing lots of fun things with RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) Think of RFID tags as bar codes that can be read at 30 feet...but much more advanced. Most people are familiar with earlier generation RFID's that set off the alarm at the store when you walk through the door by those big antennas. The new generation is much more advanced and holding more than a simple 12-digit number...more like 2k-16k of info. Wal-Mart is way ahead of the game on using RFID's for their distribution chains. When a truck unloads a pallet of mixed goods at a distribution center, as the pallet passes the door, a computer automatically tabulates the entire inventory of the pallet in a fraction of a second.

Wal-Mart is fully within their rights to sell what they want, and I'm interested to see announced corporate policy on it. But, if they do this, it isn't because they want to standardize their inventory or don't want to accidentally send such magazines to California. They're way ahead of that..
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:31:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By Brian_in_Pullman:
I asked at the Walmart in Moscow, ID and was told "Walmart policy is that we won't sell high capacity clips" I corrected him that they are magazines and he said that they are the same thing, I told him they wern't as I was walking away. Just one more reason to hate Walmart.

Brian



You actually expect the clerk at a wally world sporting goods counter to be accurate in anything they say?

Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:33:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 8:34:38 AM EST by Garand_Shooter]

Originally Posted By Robbie:
For the past...uh...year (on and off), I've been doing lots of fun things with RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) Think of RFID tags as bar codes that can be read at 30 feet...but much more advanced. Most people are familiar with earlier generation RFID's that set off the alarm at the store when you walk through the door by those big antennas. The new generation is much more advanced and holding more than a simple 12-digit number...more like 2k-16k of info. Wal-Mart is way ahead of the game on using RFID's for their distribution chains. When a truck unloads a pallet of mixed goods at a distribution center, as the pallet passes the door, a computer automatically tabulates the entire inventory of the pallet in a fraction of a second.

Wal-Mart is fully within their rights to sell what they want, and I'm interested to see announced corporate policy on it. But, if they do this, it isn't because they want to standardize their inventory or don't want to accidentally send such magazines to California. They're way ahead of that..



Yup.

My WOBC class just took a field trip to a WM distribution center. WM is doing such a great job in logistics managment that the US Army is in part adopting the WM model. Seeing what they did they, with such a high efficiency rate and low number of people, was downright amazing.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:47:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:

Originally Posted By Brian_in_Pullman:
I asked at the Walmart in Moscow, ID and was told "Walmart policy is that we won't sell high capacity clips" I corrected him that they are magazines and he said that they are the same thing, I told him they wern't as I was walking away. Just one more reason to hate Walmart.

Brian



You actually expect the clerk at a wally world sporting goods counter to be accurate in anything they say?




I know, but there is one old guy who works there who is some what knowledgeable.

Brian
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 10:06:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 10:07:34 AM EST by BoreSighted]
Walmart doesn't sell firearms at their stores in New Jersey. That's their solution to dealing with the New Jersey laws.

I'd presume that a ban elsewhere would have the same effect - ie they'd simply stop selling guns in a state where it became too difficult to manage.

Edited to add - post #75, but my first as a paid member. Now I must find an avatar picture...
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 10:06:33 AM EST
Great, I was really hoping that they would have the best deal on a 20 round mag for my Rem 700....
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 11:02:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By Collin:
Citation, please. I'd like to see it from a reliable source.



Dan Rrather reported it on the CBS news.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 11:04:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
Supply chain management--they only want to sell stuff that can be sold in all their stores, in all 50 states.

So what will happen if a major gun ban goes through in say, Kali? Will Wally World then not sell any guns at all?




WalMart doesn't sell guns in California already.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 11:08:33 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 11:09:29 AM EST
Wal-mart is the shittiest store around, in my area.
Not so much dirty, as over crowded with inventory and customers.
I avoid it like the plague.

I buy bathroom supplies, dog food, and laundry soap there because of the big discounts, but do it infrequently because they are a pain to deal with.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:12:39 PM EST
Wal Mart only carries rifles and shotguns. They do not sell pistol magazines.

No Wal Mart I've been in has been carrying anything even remotely controversial like a Ruger Mini14 in a LONG time. Therefore, there are NO guns which will be affected by this (if it's true) EXCEPT Ruger 10/22's. And I don't know about 10/22's. Is the Ruger factory mag > 10 rounds in the AWB-expired era, or has it always been 10?

If so, then there's really no story here.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:14:53 PM EST
Still waiting for that link.

That said, who cares?

If Wal-Mart sells them, I’ll get them there. If they don’t, I’ll get them elsewhere.

Wal-Mart IMHO has an absolute right to not sell anything they want.

Some of you guys have turned whining to an art form!!!
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:26:53 PM EST


I am glad they sell shotgun shells since they are so dang expensive to have shipped. Everyting else in cheaper online and the powder and primers are bought at the funshow.

The fact they don't carry Hot Lips for the 10/22 is no big deal to me.

They are in business to make money and don't kid yourself, if they thought there was a good flow of bucks in selling 11+ rd mags, they would.

Maybe if the mags were made in China.......

Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:34:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Wal Mart only carries rifles and shotguns. They do not sell pistol magazines.

No Wal Mart I've been in has been carrying anything even remotely controversial like a Ruger Mini14 in a LONG time. Therefore, there are NO guns which will be affected by this (if it's true) EXCEPT Ruger 10/22's. And I don't know about 10/22's. Is the Ruger factory mag > 10 rounds in the AWB-expired era, or has it always been 10?

If so, then there's really no story here.



They still sell Mini-14's in NC.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:41:01 PM EST
Combat_Jack announces he will not shop at Wal-Mart.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:45:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By druncuncas:
well, i'll just have to give my $ to someone else



+1
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:47:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Combat_Jack announces he will not shop at Wal-Mart.



Add Ballistictip to that list also.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:48:59 PM EST
Its their store, they can stock as they wish.

We've never bought a gun at a wal-mart, and the only one we probably ever will is an 870 or 1300. We do buy ammo, though. They're even cheaper than Galyan's.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:58:08 PM EST
Yet another reason to not shop Wal-Mart. Fine with me.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 1:00:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Wal Mart only carries rifles and shotguns. They do not sell pistol magazines.

No Wal Mart I've been in has been carrying anything even remotely controversial like a Ruger Mini14 in a LONG time. Therefore, there are NO guns which will be affected by this (if it's true) EXCEPT Ruger 10/22's. And I don't know about 10/22's. Is the Ruger factory mag > 10 rounds in the AWB-expired era, or has it always been 10?

If so, then there's really no story here.



pretty much all walmarts should sell mini 14s it is part of the modular (blueprint of what each store carries) the modular does vary in different parts of the country. I'd almost be willing to bet that they have a mini in the back gun room. they may just not have one on the shelf because they are not big sellers. my old walmart had the same 2 minis for 4 years, but left them in the back room cause even when they were on display no one ever bought one.

they used to carry some handgun mags through the special order book as recently as a year ago. but I haven't checked lately to see if they still do.

As far as i know they are planning on reintroducing firearms into the california stores at some point. there is a new section on the computer based learning units that deal with cali and walmart gun policies. I haven't checked into it though to see when that may happen.

I may put a call into the firearms buyer for my store(i think he works the whole west coast) and try to get an answer from him whether they will be carrying any "high cap" 10/22 mags
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 1:05:12 PM EST
the only that would even take normal cap magazines that they sell at walmart would be either a mini14
and ruger doesnt ship them with mags over 5 rounds anyway.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 1:06:54 PM EST
I dont ever remember them selling hi-cap mags. You got a hi-cap with your rifle if it came with one, but that was about it. I'll still buy their ammo though. Cant beat those prices.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 1:10:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 1:11:42 PM EST by DOA]

Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Is the Ruger factory mag > 10 rounds in the AWB-expired era, or has it always been 10?




The Ruger 10/22 factory mag has ALWAYS been 10 rounds so their really is no story. Just a bunch of whiny WalMart haters.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 1:16:36 PM EST
Well there are otehr big names stores that will be carrying regular cap 10/22 mags
I know that The Sports Authority/Sportmart/Gart Sports/Oshmans hunting stores will be getting in the Hot lips 25rd mags in the near future.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 3:18:39 PM EST
theoretically guns are coming back in CA, as of the other day the local still had the guns in the back. They've trained the guys that will work the firearms. They've also sent new posters for posting. The question will be what are they going to do with special ordering.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 6:32:59 PM EST
walmart already doesn't sell firearms or mags in CA.....
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