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Posted: 12/15/2016 5:43:45 PM EST
You can abundantly arm the US armed services with any 4 pieces of equipment as WWII breaks out, but those items can only be US Issue, from a period of WWII itself (ending Sept. 2, 1945)...no further, excluding nukes (cause that takes the fun out of it).

So, what 4 items make the biggest impact to hasten the end of the war with us victorious?

Here's my 4:

F8F Bearcat for the Navy, fighter dominance right out of the gate, arguably good enough to match/beat anything the Germans put into the air during the whole war too...so maybe the US Army Air Corps might want a few.

B29 Superfortress. Big whoopass with some F8F's flying escort? Have fun with that, Berlin.

M26 Pershing with the T15E1 gun (Super Pershing). Rommel, schmommel.

Mk16 Torpedo. Costly, but a good performer with range...would have been a game changer early in the war against enemy ships/cargo.


Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:55:21 PM EST
66898...this is what you used your 66898 post for...?
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:58:19 PM EST
A-1 Skyraider, first flight on March 18th, 1945.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:11:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 6:19:05 PM EST by CarbineDad]
Originally Posted By swingset:
You can abundantly arm the US armed services with any 4 pieces of equipment as WWII breaks out, but those items can only be US Issue, from a period of WWII itself (ending Sept. 2, 1945)...no further, excluding nukes (cause that takes the fun out of it).

So, what 4 items make the biggest impact to hasten the end of the war with us victorious?

Here's my 4:

F8F Bearcat for the Navy, fighter dominance right out of the gate, arguably good enough to match/beat anything the Germans put into the air during the whole war too...so maybe the US Army Air Corps might want a few.

B29 Superfortress. Big whoopass with some F8F's flying escort? Have fun with that, Berlin.

M26 Pershing with the T15E1 gun (Super Pershing). Rommel, schmommel.

Mk16 Torpedo. Costly, but a good performer with range...would have been a game changer early in the war against enemy ships/cargo.
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The extra 600 mile range for a P-51 will take her 300 miles deeper into Germany and the Balkans. That offsets the performance gain of the bearcat in climb rate and the Mustang has a higher service ceiling.


Interesting to contemplate Superfortresses over Europe though. ETA: but that extra 1000 mile range is going to do little or nothing over Europe. She lacks noise guns and an ME-109 or FW-190 can still get approve a Superfortress.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:12:45 PM EST
T20 Garand---select fire Garand with a BAR magazine
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:16:53 PM EST
Bayonet lug on carbine.







Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:20:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By crurifragium:
A-1 Skyraider, first flight on March 18th, 1945.<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_smartass.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Damn, good call
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:20:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 6:22:20 PM EST by MisterC]
Outfit all garands with a shoulder thing that goes up. Game over.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:30:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 6TH-RELIEF:
66898...this is what you used your 66898 post for...?
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He's already commented on every other conceivable topic.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:33:35 PM EST
48 Iowa Class Battle ships - one for each state in the Union at the time, because 'Merca and battleships !11!!!!

With that out of the way, my votes aren't too far off and have one for each type of combat:

Ship - Essex Class Carrier
Tank - M26 (as noted by the OP)
Aircraft - If I could go with just one... probably the P47 Thunderbolt, aka the "jug." This wasn't the "best" but thinking about overall versatility, especially if you had the other weapons in the group, it could certainly be used (in quantity) to be effective in ground attack and air to air combat.
Infantry - M1 Garand, as it is the greatest battle implement ever devised!
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:35:42 PM EST
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He's already commented on every other conceivable topic.
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Have you really been around long enough to make that claim.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:42:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 6:45:17 PM EST by wganz]
Release the VT fuse for use a lot earlier.
The German 88mm crews would not be so cocky and have so many barrel bands from tank kills.

Divert more diesel engines from the navy to the army so the tanks would have diesel onboard rather than gasoline.

adopt the de Havilland Mosquito for multiple roles for both Atlantic & Pacific. simplify supply chains to one aircraft

mobilize more black soldiers and create entire black regiments of artillery, combat engineers, and transportation; segregate to keep dissension in the ranks down due to racism but still get maximum use out of every American


As far as calibers, have the Garand use a 20 round box mag with the .276 Pederson.
Convert to 9mm, goto the Browning HiPower 9mm and British Sten gun. Commonality across the board/theater/allies on pistols and SMG's.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:48:32 PM EST
I would equip the Opana RADAR site with a competent officer.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:51:04 PM EST
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The extra 600 mile range for a P-51 will take her 300 miles deeper into Germany and the Balkans. That offsets the performance gain of the bearcat in climb rate and the Mustang has a higher service ceiling.


Interesting to contemplate Superfortresses over Europe though. ETA: but that extra 1000 mile range is going to do little or nothing over Europe. She lacks noise guns and an ME-109 or FW-190 can still get approve a Superfortress.
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Take out the fuel weight for the extra 1000 miles and add bombs.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:52:27 PM EST
1911 and Thompson, and a ton of 45acp!!! 
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:57:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Beamy:
T20 Garand---select fire Garand with a BAR magazine
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It apparently didn't work very well if you watch one of the latest Forgotten Weapons videos.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:00:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 8:34:13 PM EST by Sputnik556]
Arm every Soldier, Marine, Sailor and Airman with an MG42.

We'd be done in two weeks.<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:11:54 PM EST
M14 rifles, M240 , and BAR rebarrled to 7.62 and M60 tanks ... Oh and B52's lots of B52s
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:13:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Burnsy87:


Damn, good call
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The A10 and F4 phantom ...
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:13:37 PM EST
Fighter P-80 Shooting Star.

Bomber B-32


Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:16:22 PM EST
FUCK YOUR RULES

AC-130'S
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:17:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:
M14 rifles, M240 , and BAR rebarrled to 7.62 and M60 tanks ... Oh and B52's lots of B52s
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winning!
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:17:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By rdnkar:
FUCK YOUR RULES

AC-130'S <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_smartass.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Yeah at the very minimum Spooky ...
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:17:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By rdnkar:

winning!
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Lots winning .... YUGE winning
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:18:18 PM EST
Could we get some of the AK-47s from the Confederate States?
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:18:50 PM EST
You need to get a Life!
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:28:18 PM EST
Could we abundantly arm the navy with carriers? P61 black widows and B29s for europe so we could have fighter escorts all the way to the target and save so many lives in the world.

Did the US have nightvision in WW2?
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[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 7:38:13 PM EST by CTM1]
More subs to surround every port of our enemies to sink every ship.

M1941 Johnson Light Machine Gun

Springfield T20E2 instead of the Garand. The T20E2 fixed the issues that existed in the T20

Perhaps more radar stations in Hawaii, or at least competent people to interpret signals. If we had maybe Pearl might
have gone a little differently and thus the war

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Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:44:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
Could we get some of the AK-47s from the Confederate States?<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>
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No AK's, but a Simonov or two...
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:48:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Beamy:
T20 Garand---select fire Garand with a BAR magazine
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Winner, if it is the Remington design with the impeder. The Springfield designed one had an issue with being unreliable as the bolt was too fast and would not feed reliably from the magazine. One solution was to increase the spring strength on the BAR magazine, but that would make those magazines incompatible with the BAR. The Springfield solution was to lengthen the receiver by 1/4" to give it more travel time and thus, allow the magazine to push up a cartridge in time for the bolt to pick up a fresh cartridge. Remington's solution was to use the standard receiver but to put an impeder in the recoil spring to delay the unlocking, thus slowing the bolt down enough for the magazine to feed it.

Proximity Fuse for AA shells

P-51D Mustangs for AAF and F-8 Bearcat for USN/USMC

M-4 Sherman Firefly. Reliable tank with a gun that will take on any German vehicle.

Link Posted: 12/15/2016 7:55:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By a555:
Could we abundantly arm the navy with carriers? P61 black widows and B29s for europe so we could have fighter escorts all the way to the target and save so many lives in the world.

Did the US have nightvision in WW2?
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Do you realize how many carriers the navy had by the end of the war ?
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:14:38 PM EST
I'll do it with 3:

10,000 liberty ships already built by 1941

Enough SCR-536s to outfit everyone. Everyone! From the company CO to the damn fry cook.

72 Midway class carriers full of F8F Bearcats and F4U Corsairs.


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Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:


Do you realize how many carriers the navy had by the end of the war ?
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Yes, but the OP said "when war breaks out." I figure being able to park a few carriers off the coast of France with round the clock P61/B29 operations from ground locations could destroy Germany at night. Likewise, we could've gone through Siberia and China, pushed Japan out of China and beat the hell out of them from China.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:21:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Arm every Soldier, Marine, Sailer and Airman with an MG42.

We'd be done in two weeks.<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Done with the entire ammo stock, you mean.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:24:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Arm every Soldier, Marine, Sailer and Airman with an MG42.

We'd be done in two weeks.<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>
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US Issue
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:30:39 PM EST
4 nukes. 2 each for Germany and Japan. Fuck 'em, end this shit quick.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:32:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By a555:
Could we abundantly arm the navy with carriers? P61 black widows and B29s for europe so we could have fighter escorts all the way to the target and save so many lives in the world.

Did the US have nightvision in WW2?
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We had infrared.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:36:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CarbineDad:



The extra 600 mile range for a P-51 will take her 300 miles deeper into Germany and the Balkans. That offsets the performance gain of the bearcat in climb rate and the Mustang has a higher service ceiling.


Interesting to contemplate Superfortresses over Europe though. ETA: but that extra 1000 mile range is going to do little or nothing over Europe. She lacks noise guns and an ME-109 or FW-190 can still get approve a Superfortress.
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You send the B-29s WITH the latest mod'd Wright 3350 engines WITH a load no other bomber can touch WITH P-51 fighter/escort. Big Fucking Difference.

It took the war and time to work out the kinks in the W 3350 engine and it was chosen for the A-1 Skyraider. That is fucking correct. One B-29 engine, mod'd some moar of course, in this:

Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:40:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
48 Iowa Montana Class Battle ships - one for each state in the Union at the time, because 'Merca and battleships !11!!!!

With that out of the way, my votes aren't too far off and have one for each type of combat:

Ship - Essex Class Carrier
Tank - M26 (as noted by the OP)
Aircraft - If I could go with just one... probably the P47 Thunderbolt, aka the "jug." This wasn't the "best" but thinking about overall versatility, especially if you had the other weapons in the group, it could certainly be used (in quantity) to be effective in ground attack and air to air combat.
Infantry - M1 Garand, as it is the greatest battle implement ever devised!
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Fixed it for you.....
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:45:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CarbineDad:

The extra 600 mile range for a P-51 will take her 300 miles deeper into Germany and the Balkans. That offsets the performance gain of the bearcat in climb rate and the Mustang has a higher service ceiling.
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With 2 drop tanks, IIRC, the F8F could get around 1,900 miles...that's only 150 total less than the P51D. Remember, I'm talking STARTING the war with it, too, what's Germany got in 1941 that's gonna swat down Bearcats and B29's?
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:45:47 PM EST
Napalm and willie pete.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:47:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By stlee5:
You need to get a Life!
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Shut up mom, and stay off my ARFcom.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:47:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MisterC:
Outfit all garands with a shoulder thing that goes up. Game over.
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 Fuckin'brutal.
 Geneva Convention can go choke itself.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:47:54 PM EST
.276 Pedersen
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:49:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Joker117:


Enough SCR-536s to outfit everyone. Everyone! From the company CO to the damn fry cook.
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That's a good call, pun intended. Widespread communication would have been a real game changer.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:51:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bones45:
Napalm and willie pete.
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Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:52:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MisterC:
Outfit all garands with a shoulder thing that goes up. Game over.
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Oh they tried...

Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:53:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2016 9:01:47 PM EST by bnz42]
Screw the US stuff,, how about a .30 Cal Bren for infantry squads?
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 8:53:47 PM EST
mp44 mg42 M26 Pershing Tank,LVT
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