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Posted: 7/21/2008 7:22:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 7:32:18 AM EDT by ultramagbrion]
ALLAH BORD!!

Ive heard about this three times this morning on Fox News The MTA has confirmed that the deal had already been struck.



New York Post Link



An Islamic group plans to blitz 1,000 subway cars with advertisements this September in a campaign being promoted by a Brooklyn imam whom federal officials have linked to a plot to blow up city landmarks.

The group says its mission is to explain the true nature of Islam to non-Muslims who believe the religion is bent on acts of violence - but Siraj Wahhaj, the inflammatory imam who appears in a promotional YouTube video for the project, has defended convicted bomb-plotters and called the FBI and CIA the "real terrorists."

US Attorney Mary Jo White even named Wahhaj one of 170 unindicted co-conspirators in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the thwarted plan to blow up a slew of buildings

"In time, this so-called democracy will crumble, and there will be nothing, and the only thing that will remain will be Islam," Wahhaj said in one of his sermons.






Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:28:14 AM EDT
Is this for real? NYC would allow this?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:30:12 AM EDT
NY is dumb for allowing this nonsense to happen, but so is this group for wanting to. There is no way every one of those posters isn't destroyed the first day they go up.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:33:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dawgsquat:
Is this for real? NYC would allow this?


Yep..........already been signed by the MTA
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:35:17 AM EDT
Wow.

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:37:23 AM EDT
Too far. When is someone finally going to have the balls to stand up and say HELL NO to what is so obviously wrong and insulting?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:38:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:

Originally Posted By Dawgsquat:
Is this for real? NYC would allow this?


Yep..........already been signed by the MTA



holy rat shit, batman
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:40:02 AM EDT
This is like extolling the virtues of the B-29 at a Hiroshima train station
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:40:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 7:41:51 AM EDT by Rosenrot]
They are protected by the 1st amendment of the US constitution and have every right to do what they are doing. I just hope the proper authorities keep a close eye on them.

The 1st amendment must be upheld no matter what.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:41:14 AM EDT
I wouldn't want Guliani as President, but wouldn't mind if he were still the mayor.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:41:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 50UNIT:
Too far. When is someone finally going to have the balls to stand up and say HELL NO to what is so obviously wrong and insulting?


The day people are willing to take up your arms and do something about it.

I forget whose sig line it is, but someone has something akin to "America is in that awkward phase where it's too late to implement any meaningful change, and too early to start shooting."

I agree whole-heartedly.

_MaH
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:42:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
They are protected by the 1st amendment of the US constitution and have every right to do what they are doing. I just hope the proper authorities keep a close eye on them.

The 1st amendment must be upheld no matter what.


The first amendment is not without certain limitations.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:44:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
They are protected by the 1st amendment of the US constitution and have every right to do what they are doing. I just hope the proper authorities keep a close eye on them.

The 1st amendment must be upheld no matter what.


Depends on the forum.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:47:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 7:50:11 AM EDT by callgood]

Originally Posted By 87GN:
This is like extolling the virtues of the B-29 at a Hiroshima train station


Nah. It's like that cartoon. You know. The one with the guy wearing a turban.



"In time, this so-called democracy will crumble, and there will be nothing, and the only thing that will remain will be Islam," Wahhaj said in one of his sermons.


I'm not clear. Is this on the ad?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:48:48 AM EDT
You cant advertise alot of things these days (Porn,tobacco,booze in certain places)

Why should this be allowed???

Because its a religious ad???

I see the first amendment point....but c'mon!!
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:50:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:

The group says its mission is to explain the true nature of Islam to non-Muslims who believe the religion is bent on acts of violence - but Siraj Wahhaj, the inflammatory imam who appears in a promotional YouTube video for the project, has defended convicted bomb-plotters and called the FBI and CIA the "real terrorists."

US Attorney Mary Jo White even named Wahhaj one of 170 unindicted co-conspirators in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the thwarted plan to blow up a slew of buildings

"In time, this so-called democracy will crumble, and there will be nothing, and the only thing that will remain will be Islam," Wahhaj said in one of his sermons.



"None of these statements were ones that I had heard myself personally in the pews. But most of the time, when I'm in church, he's talking about God, faith, values, caring for the poor, family, those were the messages that I was hearing. And so you know, I think that the statements that have been strung together are compiled out of, you know, hundred of sermons that he delivered over the course of his lifetime. I mean, obviously, understand that — understand that, you know, this is somebody who is like an uncle to me."
~ Barack Obama,



Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:51:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 7:51:43 AM EDT by PUBBOY]
Glad I live in a place where that kind of thing would have about ZERO CHANCE of happening.... God Bless the South!
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:51:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 50UNIT:

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
They are protected by the 1st amendment of the US constitution and have every right to do what they are doing. I just hope the proper authorities keep a close eye on them.

The 1st amendment must be upheld no matter what.


The first amendment is not without certain limitations.



Your right but in this situation they are not hurting anyone or causing a public disturbance.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:53:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 7:55:41 AM EDT by ultramagbrion]

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:

Originally Posted By 50UNIT:

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
They are protected by the 1st amendment of the US constitution and have every right to do what they are doing. I just hope the proper authorities keep a close eye on them.

The 1st amendment must be upheld no matter what.


The first amendment is not without certain limitations.



Your right but in this situation they are not hurting anyone or causing a public disturbance.



Wanna bet?

New Yorkers will be furious when they start seeing these.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:57:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 7:59:11 AM EDT by ultramagbrion]

"Those interested in knowing more are directed to call (877) WHY-ISLAM or to visit whyislam.org, which provide literature that teaches and proselytizes about the faith.
"




Maybe I need to make a few calls...............ya know...just to ask "why".
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 7:59:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 50UNIT:

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
They are protected by the 1st amendment of the US constitution and have every right to do what they are doing. I just hope the proper authorities keep a close eye on them.

The 1st amendment must be upheld no matter what.


The first amendment is not without certain limitations.


Yep, during WWII did we allow the American Nazi Party to recruit and place ads?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 8:02:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 8:02:35 AM EDT by GOBLIN1]
I don't want to have to see that stuff while I'm buying my lunc....What?...OH!...nevermind!!!
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 8:04:47 AM EDT
wouldn't tearing them off the walls be considered "freedom of expression" or "I'm offended!!!!"
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 8:13:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 8:14:16 AM EDT by runcible]

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
They are protected by the 1st amendment of the US constitution and have every right to do what they are doing. I just hope the proper authorities keep a close eye on them.

The 1st amendment must be upheld no matter what.



They have the right to believe whatever they want... and to say whatever they want... they don't have the right to expect the taxpayers of NYC to provide them with a forum to extoll their views.

Somehow, I don't think this will fly. Remember, the general public is only now hearing about this.

And if it does... well, here's my idea:


There's "If You See Something, Say Something!" posters all over NYC, and they all have a hotline number on them.

People should call the hotline number and report every one of this group's posters, every time they see one.

I'll bet they wouldn't be up for long.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 8:15:41 AM EDT
Next you are going to tell us that tax dollars are being used to subsidize these ads.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 8:20:51 AM EDT
Hopefully some subway riders will paste their asses to the wall, allah willing
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 11:32:24 AM EDT
I see a marked increase in Sharpie sales when these start popping up.

At the very least it will provide a great photo-shop guinnea pig


And pg 2 is my bitch...........no help from allah.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 11:38:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 87GN:
This is like extolling the virtues of the B-29 at a Hiroshima train station


LOL

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 11:41:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dawgsquat:
Is this for real? NYC would allow this?
How many New Yorkers think 9/11 was Dubya's fault?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 11:54:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By Dawgsquat:
Is this for real? NYC would allow this?
How many New Yorkers think 9/11 was Dubya's fault?

Everybody knows 9/11 never REALLY happened.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:01:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
They are protected by the 1st amendment of the US constitution and have every right to do what they are doing. I just hope the proper authorities keep a close eye on them.

The 1st amendment must be upheld no matter what.


this and the all mighty dollar. the mta is a joke.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:02:27 PM EDT
Surely theres a few writers who will cover them up in no time.

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:10:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:

"Those interested in knowing more are directed to call (877) WHY-ISLAM or to visit whyislam.org, which provide literature that teaches and proselytizes about the faith.
"




Maybe I need to make a few calls...............ya know...just to ask "why".


Do it closer to winter, so you can take advantage of Gitmo's nice weather...
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:14:11 PM EDT
1,000 posters? Let them waste their money. They will all be defaced in under a week. Guaranteed.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:14:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:20:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 12:22:05 PM EDT by Aimless]
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:34:28 PM EDT
Where is Frank Castle when you need him?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:49:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PUBBOY:
Glad I live in a place where that kind of thing would have about ZERO CHANCE of happening.... God Bless the South!



I give these subway ads at most a good 72 hours before each and every one of them is either torn down or posted over.


Make fun of us Yanks all you want (it's cool I understand), but don't forget, many New Yorkers paid very very dearly for what these people did to us as a country, and I will guarantee you that the people who will be exposed to these ads aren't going to forget that anytime soon.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:55:31 PM EDT

Link Posted: 7/23/2008 6:24:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2008 6:26:52 AM EDT by ultramagbrion]

Originally Posted By pwr2al4:

Originally Posted By PUBBOY:
Glad I live in a place where that kind of thing would have about ZERO CHANCE of happening.... God Bless the South!



I give these subway ads at most a good 72 hours before each and every one of them is either torn down or posted over.


Make fun of us Yanks all you want (it's cool I understand), but don't forget, many New Yorkers paid very very dearly for what these people did to us as a country, and I will guarantee you that the people who will be exposed to these ads aren't going to forget that anytime soon.



If there are ANY recruits gained from this in NYC......I see them trying it in other major cities .....Detroit for sure....Chicago would be another, and dont think they wont try Atlanta either

I doubt the Mason/Dixon line means squat to the religion of peace.

All it would take is a couple interested traitors recruits to make it worthwhile to them..........even if the ads were destroyed in a couple days.
Link Posted: 7/23/2008 6:33:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By Dawgsquat:
Is this for real? NYC would allow this?
How many New Yorkers think 9/11 was Dubya's fault?


I'd venture to say a lot Too bad he won't be around to blame for too much longer.
Link Posted: 7/23/2008 6:43:54 AM EDT
When are the "Why Jesus" posters coming out?

(they're not... because surely CAIR's constituents will be duely offended...)
Link Posted: 7/23/2008 6:45:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2008 6:56:37 AM EDT by Kaygee]
As this seems to be the thread to ask in, did anything ever happen to these charming young gentlemen?
Link Posted: 7/23/2008 6:49:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:

Originally Posted By pwr2al4:

Originally Posted By PUBBOY:
Glad I live in a place where that kind of thing would have about ZERO CHANCE of happening.... God Bless the South!



I give these subway ads at most a good 72 hours before each and every one of them is either torn down or posted over.


Make fun of us Yanks all you want (it's cool I understand), but don't forget, many New Yorkers paid very very dearly for what these people did to us as a country, and I will guarantee you that the people who will be exposed to these ads aren't going to forget that anytime soon.



If there are ANY recruits gained from this in NYC......I see them trying it in other major cities .....Detroit for sure....Chicago would be another, and dont think they wont try Atlanta either

I doubt the Mason/Dixon line means squat to the religion of peace.

All it would take is a couple interested traitors recruits to make it worthwhile to them..........even if the ads were destroyed in a couple days.

Too bad the only public transport in Detroit is the PeopleMugger Mover, and a handfull of shoddy buses.
Link Posted: 7/23/2008 7:06:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dawgsquat:
Is this for real? NYC would allow this?


Allow what? People from going around plastering posters?

The best you can do is tear them down as soon as you find them.

although....

If i were the CIA I would make a fake ad and try to recruit people.
Link Posted: 7/23/2008 7:07:24 AM EDT


Someone needs to grow a pair and stop this.
Link Posted: 7/23/2008 7:13:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:

Wanna bet?

New Yorkers will be furious when they start seeing these.


+1
I refuse to ride the subway post 9/11. As a paramedic I know this is a huge target. So I will not see them . However I know this will add not be accepted by the masses. They'll get torn down and defaced.

Link Posted: 7/23/2008 8:07:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kaygee:
As this seems to be the thread to ask in, did anything ever happen to these charming young gentlemen?


those charming fuckers need to pull that around areas I frequent. if I drove by and saw that I am slamming the truck in park and I would add another chapter of bitch slapping stupid where I see it in my lifes story.
Link Posted: 7/23/2008 8:32:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kaygee:
As this seems to be the thread to ask in, did anything ever happen to these charming young gentlemen?




Oh..... I bet THAT went over well

Where the hell is this guy when you need him??

Link Posted: 7/23/2008 8:39:26 AM EDT
Of all the cities...geez.

I hope all of the FF's, Cops, and soldiers riding the subways put up posters showing the aftermath of the twin towers, complete with the list of those that died on 9-11-01....fair and balanced, and all that...
Link Posted: 7/23/2008 8:47:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 50UNIT:

Originally Posted By Rosenrot:
They are protected by the 1st amendment of the US constitution and have every right to do what they are doing. I just hope the proper authorities keep a close eye on them.

The 1st amendment must be upheld no matter what.


The first amendment is not without certain limitations.


Exactly
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