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Posted: 11/2/2004 11:00:08 AM EST
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Woody
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:00:47 AM EST
gonna take some balls for a sKerry supporter to show up here
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:01:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 11:02:28 AM EST by DarkStar]

I wouldn't piss on sKerry if his hair was on fire...


edited to 'seem' more compassionate...

Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:02:21 AM EST
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:03:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.



Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:03:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.



We did, and he's going to kick Kerry's ass!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:03:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.



Qualified for what? Fucking up our country?
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:03:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.



Get lost
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:03:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.



They did. For Bush.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:03:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.



Doesn't everyone?
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:03:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.



We did, and he's going to kick Kerry's ass!



+1
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:05:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 11:06:35 AM EST by shaggy]

Originally Posted By DarkStar:
I wouldn't piss on sKerry if his hair was on fire...




Well, I might piss on his shoes.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:06:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.



Cool, even if I disagree with you. Welcome to my thread. Can I ask the reasons that most influenced you to vote for JK?

Woody
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:07:27 AM EST
wow, you voted for a socialist traitor. hope you are happy!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:10:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 11:11:12 AM EST by rifleman2000]

Originally Posted By WWoodworth:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.



Cool, even if I disagree with you. Welcome to my thread. Can I ask the reasons that most influenced you to vote for JK?

Woody



Why he voted Kerry? Probably because he's stupid. Let's not beat around the bush (no pun intended). Kerry is a traitor, Kerry is a liar, Kerry would be an invitation for more terror attacks; in short a vote for Kerry is a very unpatriotic thing.

Any other questions?

Yeah, maybe I should be nicer. But I don't like traitors.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:10:57 AM EST
Sure. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, is going poorly. I believe that a conflict with Iran and N. Korea is looming in the future if Bush is re-elected, and I think that diplomacy and containment are the best policies to pursue. Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works, and Bush is, in my opinion, a big proponent of those policies. I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU, and alienating them as they become increasingly powerful economically is, in my opinion, a poor idea. I also believe that a President should be open to criticism and consider all viewpoints before making a decision-something I believe Bush lacks.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:12:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By peekay:
wow, you voted for a socialist traitor. hope you are happy!



I think you ment Communist traitor!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:13:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
I don't think trickle-down economics works



ok, point out how bush is using that, and pray tell, have you ever taken a college level economics class?
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:14:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By jmoffatt:

Originally Posted By peekay:
wow, you voted for a socialist traitor. hope you are happy!



I think you ment Communist traitor!



I think you "ment" meant.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:15:06 AM EST

Voted for Kerry?..... Sound off here!


That'll be the day.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:15:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
... Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works...



So... you haven't studied Economics OR History, eh?
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:16:06 AM EST
EU nations becoming increasingly powerful economically?

Now I know you have never done even a cursory study of economics.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:16:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Sure. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, is going poorly. I believe that a conflict with Iran and N. Korea is looming in the future if Bush is re-elected, and I think that diplomacy and containment are the best policies to pursue. Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works, and Bush is, in my opinion, a big proponent of those policies. I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU, and alienating them as they become increasingly powerful economically is, in my opinion, a poor idea. I also believe that a President should be open to criticism and consider all viewpoints before making a decision-something I believe Bush lacks.



No factual support, unless you count CNN/CBS.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:16:32 AM EST
Ok, you're upset with the war in Iraq. I just don't get how they vote for the guy who also voted for the war in Iraq. Then, I'm sure Kerry would do a better job in Iraq by cutting funding to it. I think there are lots of people over in Iraq who think there's too much money over there already.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:16:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Sure. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, is going poorly. I believe that a conflict with Iran and N. Korea is looming in the future if Bush is re-elected, and I think that diplomacy and containment are the best policies to pursue. Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works, and Bush is, in my opinion, a big proponent of those policies. I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU, and alienating them as they become increasingly powerful economically is, in my opinion, a poor idea. I also believe that a President should be open to criticism and consider all viewpoints before making a decision-something I believe Bush lacks.



All in all you want North Korea and Iran to get nukes, you dont believe in a proven economic strategy, and you want to suck the cocks of every single european nation. Oh yeah and you voted for communist scum.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:16:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
I don't think trickle-down economics works



ok, point out how bush is using that, and pray tell, have you ever taken a college level economics class?




Sure-tax cuts that idsproportionally favor the wealthier Americans. I'm sure that we can both march out surveys and studies that either agree or disagree with this statement, this being an election year. But overall, I feel that Bush favors the "haves" over the "have-nots", and until we can vote for a Libertarian candidate, Kerry seems to be the best choice.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:17:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 11:21:38 AM EST by FREEFALLE6]
Good Job Osama Bin laden thanks you for your vote.

Pehaps you can move to pakastan to be his bitch



FREE


Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.

Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:17:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
gonna take some balls for a sKerry supporter to show up here



I DID!

Not really...

Bilster
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:18:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
I don't think trickle-down economics works



ok, point out how bush is using that, and pray tell, have you ever taken a college level economics class?




Sure-tax cuts that idsproportionally favor the wealthier Americans. I'm sure that we can both march out surveys and studies that either agree or disagree with this statement, this being an election year. But overall, I feel that Bush favors the "haves" over the "have-nots", and until we can vote for a Libertarian candidate, Kerry seems to be the best choice.



Remember that when the next attack comes from the terrorists.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:18:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU,



I agree, and I for one and DAMNED THANKFUL for that!!
Get the UN/EU out of America, and get America out of the UN/EU!!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:20:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Sure. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, is going poorly. I believe that a conflict with Iran and N. Korea is looming in the future if Bush is re-elected, and I think that diplomacy and containment are the best policies to pursue. Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works, and Bush is, in my opinion, a big proponent of those policies. I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU, and alienating them as they become increasingly powerful economically is, in my opinion, a poor idea. I also believe that a President should be open to criticism and consider all viewpoints before making a decision-something I believe Bush lacks.



No factual support, unless you count CNN/CBS.



Yes, CNN, as it is owned by one of the world's richest men, is no doubt a liberal mouthpiece. Fox "news" on the other hand, is a bastion of truth and morality.

Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:20:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Sure. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, is going poorly. I believe that a conflict with Iran and N. Korea is looming in the future if Bush is re-elected, and I think that diplomacy and containment are the best policies to pursue. Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works, and Bush is, in my opinion, a big proponent of those policies. I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU, and alienating them as they become increasingly powerful economically is, in my opinion, a poor idea. I also believe that a President should be open to criticism and consider all viewpoints before making a decision-something I believe Bush lacks.



So if there is conflict boiling with Iran and N.Korea, shouldnt we have someone in office that will fight, rather than take it in the ass?

Trickle down ecomomics? Mmmmkay.....

Lost credibility with the EU? Who friggin cares? They are the ones who put threats on nations thru the UN and then DONT back them up. If anything, I think the EU has lost credibility.

Where has the President not been open to criticism? Criticism comes with the job, and I think Bush has handled it superbly.

Just my thoughts......
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:20:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU,



I agree, and I for one and DAMNED THANKFUL for that!!
Get the UN/EU out of America, and get America out of the UN/EU!!



Haha, we agree this time! Though, in actuality, one reason the US remains in the UN is so that we can keep our thumbs down on them.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:20:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
I don't think trickle-down economics works



ok, point out how bush is using that, and pray tell, have you ever taken a college level economics class?




Sure-tax cuts that idsproportionally favor the wealthier Americans. I'm sure that we can both march out surveys and studies that either agree or disagree with this statement, this being an election year. But overall, I feel that Bush favors the "haves" over the "have-nots", and until we can vote for a Libertarian candidate, Kerry seems to be the best choice.



do you understand that the majority of these "haves" employ almost all of the "have nots"? business owners are what keep people employed. without them we'd all be unemployed. I still dont see how you can think that taxing the living shit out of people who make over $200k a year encourages people to start businesses or even go to college to get a better education. in fact it discourages said activities and drags the economy down.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:20:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Sure. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, is going poorly. I believe that a conflict with Iran and N. Korea is looming in the future if Bush is re-elected, and I think that diplomacy and containment are the best policies to pursue. Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works, and Bush is, in my opinion, a big proponent of those policies. I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU, and alienating them as they become increasingly powerful economically is, in my opinion, a poor idea. I also believe that a President should be open to criticism and consider all viewpoints before making a decision-something I believe Bush lacks.



All in all you want North Korea and Iran to get nukes, you dont believe in a proven economic strategy, and you want to suck the cocks of every single european nation. Oh yeah and you voted for communist scum.



Senator McCarthy, red courtesy phone...
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:20:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 11:24:32 AM EST by bull_8]

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Sure. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, is going poorly. I believe that a conflict with Iran and N. Korea is looming in the future if Bush is re-elected, and I think that diplomacy and containment are the best policies to pursue. Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works, and Bush is, in my opinion, a big proponent of those policies. I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU, and alienating them as they become increasingly powerful economically is, in my opinion, a poor idea. I also believe that a President should be open to criticism and consider all viewpoints before making a decision-something I believe Bush lacks.



F*CK THE EU!!!! Bunch of socialist pussies, the whole lot of em!!!!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:20:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 11:22:13 AM EST by OneMoreMag]
Edited to say "why are we arguing...its worthless with people like this..."
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:21:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
I don't think trickle-down economics works



ok, point out how bush is using that, and pray tell, have you ever taken a college level economics class?




Sure-tax cuts that idsproportionally favor the wealthier Americans. I'm sure that we can both march out surveys and studies that either agree or disagree with this statement, this being an election year. But overall, I feel that Bush favors the "haves" over the "have-nots", and until we can vote for a Libertarian candidate, Kerry seems to be the best choice.



Tax cuts favor all those people who pay taxes. As it stands, the rich pay far more than their fair share of income taxes. Of course they would benefit those paying the most.

I am not rich, but really appreciate the fact that someday I will be making far more money then I am now. I don't want to be saddled with high tax rates that "everyone else" votes onto me.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:22:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Sure. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, is going poorly. I believe that a conflict with Iran and N. Korea is looming in the future if Bush is re-elected, and I think that diplomacy and containment are the best policies to pursue. Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works, and Bush is, in my opinion, a big proponent of those policies. I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU, and alienating them as they become increasingly powerful economically is, in my opinion, a poor idea. I also believe that a President should be open to criticism and consider all viewpoints before making a decision-something I believe Bush lacks.





So I guess you are for Higher taxes, the UN flag flying high over every house in America ( ie; no U.S. sovereignty ) Fuck the E.U. , If it wasn't for the USA there wouldn't be no E.U. there would be a giant Nazi flag flying over all those countries. They should be kissing our ass , not us kissing theirs!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:23:20 AM EST
Do you care about the RKBA, Catm95?
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:23:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:

Originally Posted By jmoffatt:

Originally Posted By peekay:
wow, you voted for a socialist traitor. hope you are happy!



I think you ment Communist traitor!



I think you "ment" meant.



Whatever, sound it out if you have problems understanding.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:25:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2004 11:27:38 AM EST by bull_8]

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Sure. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, is going poorly. I believe that a conflict with Iran and N. Korea is looming in the future if Bush is re-elected, and I think that diplomacy and containment are the best policies to pursue. Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works, and Bush is, in my opinion, a big proponent of those policies. I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU, and alienating them as they become increasingly powerful economically is, in my opinion, a poor idea. I also believe that a President should be open to criticism and consider all viewpoints before making a decision-something I believe Bush lacks.



F*CK THE EU!!!! Bunch of socialist pussies, the whole lot of em!!!!Not to mention they fact that they violated UN sanctions against Iraq, as well as skirted the Oil for Food provisions imposed by that group of commies up in New York. Oh did I mention they supplied alot of nice military technology which is now being used against our troops?
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:26:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Yes, CNN, as it is owned by one of the world's richest men, is no doubt a liberal mouthpiece. Fox "news" on the other hand, is a bastion of truth and morality.




Well, I really don't watch the news on any channel. But, how does that change the fact the John Kerry is a traitor, and you voted for him? That he is unfit to command, and you voted for him? That he is a gratuitous liar, and you voted for him.

And take you economic BS and stuff it, because

a. it is BS

b. there are more important issues at hand

And prove the war on terrorism is going bad. Potential terrorists are being killed everyday, before they can make an attack. Iraq and Afghanistan are no longer available for terrorists to train and live in. Other countries are more wary of harboring terrorists. Osama is on the run. And, contrary to your belief, Iraq is a success story. Its military gets better every day at fighting terrorists. The Iraqi citizens are fed up with the foreign influence. And Saddam, a mass murderer, has been removed. Read history. It takes a while to rebuild a nation.

Thanks for voting, traitor.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:27:11 AM EST
"The tax cuts benefited EVERYONE! Damn liberals have blinders on!

Why can't people keep what they earn? In about 5 years I will be in the top few percentile due to education and luck and why the heck should I subsidize the poor's government services?"

Because the university you recieved your education in benefits from public funds. Because the education of the employees that help you make the money you earn comes from the state. Because without a public transportation system, including highways, you couldn't get the goods that your business markets transported.

Those who benefit from the taxes collected from ALL citizens should contribute to the same system that helped tham achieve their success.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:28:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
"The tax cuts benefited EVERYONE! Damn liberals have blinders on!

Why can't people keep what they earn? In about 5 years I will be in the top few percentile due to education and luck and why the heck should I subsidize the poor's government services?"

Because the university you recieved your education in benefits from public funds. Because the education of the employees that help you make the money you earn comes from the state. Because without a public transportation system, including highways, you couldn't get the goods that your business markets transported.

Those who benefit from the taxes collected from ALL citizens should contribute to the same system that helped tham achieve their success.



Meanwhile, we are a nation at war, and you voted for a traitor because of his stand on TAXES?
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:28:35 AM EST
Do you own an AR or any guns Catm95? If you do, and you voted for John Fucking Skerry, you are insane...no offense...
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:29:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
I don't think trickle-down economics works



ok, point out how bush is using that, and pray tell, have you ever taken a college level economics class?




Sure-tax cuts that idsproportionally favor the wealthier Americans. I'm sure that we can both march out surveys and studies that either agree or disagree with this statement, this being an election year. But overall, I feel that Bush favors the "haves" over the "have-nots", and until we can vote for a Libertarian candidate, Kerry seems to be the best choice.



Thats because Republicans are usually "haves". Why? Because we get off our lazy asses and WORK. Democrats want to sit around, smoke pot, burn patcholi and collect money from the government.
You too can be a "have" if you get off your ass and work!
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:29:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:
Do you own an AR or any guns Catm95? If you do, and you voted for John Fucking Skerry, you are insane...no offense...



I think he is a troll... let me reference the troll page.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:30:17 AM EST
Catm95. Thanks for the reply. If you don't mind, I have a few questions....

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Sure. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, is going poorly.


I'm not sure what Mr. Kerry's plan is on Iraq. What would YOU do differently?

I believe that a conflict with Iran and N. Korea is looming in the future if Bush is re-elected, and I think that diplomacy and containment are the best policies to pursue.

Bush is promoting a policy of diplomacy. My question to you would be at what point do we decide that diplomacy has failed and that it is time to act decisively? We did, afterall, give Sadaam 12 years of "diplomacy".

Additionally, I don't think trickle-down economics works, and Bush is, in my opinion, a big proponent of those policies.

If more business owners and "rich people" have more money, they will spend it. They will spend it on products which must be made. The higher the demand, the more people will have to be employed to make them, increasing the tax base. They spend it on services, which directly employs people, increasing the tax base. Wouldn't that generate more income for the gov't and decrease unemployment?

I believe that the U. S. has lost an enormous amount of credibility with the nations of the EU, and alienating them as they become increasingly powerful economically is, in my opinion, a poor idea.

"The Triad" consists of the U.S., the E.U., and Japan. While some of the EU may be down on us politically, they will have to come to grips with the fact that we spend lots of money. They want it. We want the trade. It's more of a matter of economics than politics unless someone starts talking tariffs, and I don't think you'll see that happen.

I also believe that a President should be open to criticism and consider all viewpoints before making a decision-something I believe Bush lacks.

Without knowing what viewpoints he gets to see that we don't, I can't tell whether or not he does. I'll have to leave this one alone.

Thanks for your replies.

Woody
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:31:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By Catm95:
Howdy!

Yep-I voted for Kerry this morning. And I hope everyone else voted for the candidate they feel is most qualified.

Link Posted: 11/2/2004 11:31:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By rifleman2000:

Originally Posted By Catm95:
"The tax cuts benefited EVERYONE! Damn liberals have blinders on!

Why can't people keep what they earn? In about 5 years I will be in the top few percentile due to education and luck and why the heck should I subsidize the poor's government services?"

Because the university you recieved your education in benefits from public funds. Because the education of the employees that help you make the money you earn comes from the state. Because without a public transportation system, including highways, you couldn't get the goods that your business markets transported.

Those who benefit from the taxes collected from ALL citizens should contribute to the same system that helped tham achieve their success.



Meanwhile, we are a nation at war, and you voted for a traitor because of his stand on TAXES?



No, I voted for Kerry (as a Bush supporter, I'd be cautious about throwing the "traitior" accusation around-desertion in a time of war, anyone?) for the reasons I've already listed. Bush's economic policy is just one of the many reasons I chose to vote as I did.
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