Vote For McCain So He Will Appoint Conservative Judges Ain't Goin' Fly

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Posted: 10/16/2008 8:58:20 AM EDT

I also thought the idea that I should vote for McCain so he can put conservative, "gun friendly" judges into the Supreme Court was a bunch on nonsense. Now he's proven it , from the debate last night:

John McCain, "I voted for Justice Breyer and Justice Ginsburg. Not because I agreed with their ideology, but because I thought they were qualified and that elections have consequences when presidents are nominated. This is a very important issue we're talking about."

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:01:13 AM EDT

[#1]

So then vote for obama, who will certainly appoint anti-gun justices.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:02:11 AM EDT

[#2]

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I also thought the idea that I should vote for McCain so he can put conservative, "gun friendly" judges into the Supreme Court was a bunch on nonsense. Now he's proven it , from the debate last night:

John McCain, "I voted for Justice Breyer and Justice Ginsburg. Not because I agreed with their ideology, but because I thought they were qualified and that elections have consequences when presidents are nominated. This is a very important issue we're talking about."

Ummmmm.... Consider the alternative....

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:03:49 AM EDT

[#3]

Jesus Christ...

It used to be standard practice for the senate to vote for the Presidents picks regardless of how you felt about their idealogy, as long as they were qualified. The discussion was about qualifications, not politics.

That ended for the dems in the 80's with Bork.

The repubs have been slower to inject politics into the judicial process. Much to their regret now I think.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:04:21 AM EDT

[#4]

Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:04:53 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

I plan on it.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:05:28 AM EDT

[#6]

Divide and conquer, divide and conquer, divide and conquer, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, etc., etc, etc., ad nauseum and on and on……..

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:06:27 AM EDT

[#7]

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Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

I plan on it.

What a waste.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:07:11 AM EDT

[#8]

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Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

I plan on it.

What a waste.

Of skin.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:08:42 AM EDT

[#9]

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Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

I plan on it.

Cutting off your nose to spite your face... that'll show 'em.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:10:26 AM EDT

[#10]

ar15texans vote doesn't fucking matter. He's in Texas. The rest of the state covers for the people that don't think.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:11:59 AM EDT

[#11]

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Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

I plan on it.

one more vote for hussien ...

brilliant

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:13:48 AM EDT

[#12]

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I also thought the idea that I should vote for McCain so he can put conservative, "gun friendly" judges into the Supreme Court was a bunch on nonsense. Now he's proven it , from the debate last night:

John McCain, "I voted for Justice Breyer and Justice Ginsburg. Not because I agreed with their ideology, but because I thought they were qualified and that elections have consequences when presidents are nominated. This is a very important issue we're talking about."

This is even more reason to vote for McCain. We want McCain to appoint judges that Obama will vote against. We don't want Obama appointing judges that McCain will vote for.

Think it through a little better. It's an IQ test of sorts, and so far you are failing.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:14:08 AM EDT

[#13]

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I also thought the idea that I should vote for McCain so he can put conservative, "gun friendly" judges into the Supreme Court was a bunch on nonsense. Now he's proven it , from the debate last night:

John McCain, "I voted for Justice Breyer and Justice Ginsburg. Not because I agreed with their ideology, but because I thought they were qualified and that elections have consequences when presidents are nominated. This is a very important issue we're talking about."

We are just lucky you come from a state that your Presidential vote doesn't matter.
(Unless you are an ACORN rep.)

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:14:59 AM EDT

[#14]

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Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

I plan on it.

After your childish pique helps get Mr. Obama elected, will you be registering as NoAr15Texan?

Jane

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:20:44 AM EDT

[#15]

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Quoted:
I also thought the idea that I should vote for McCain so he can put conservative, "gun friendly" judges into the Supreme Court was a bunch on nonsense. Now he's proven it , from the debate last night:

John McCain, "I voted for Justice Breyer and Justice Ginsburg. Not because I agreed with their ideology, but because I thought they were qualified and that elections have consequences when presidents are nominated. This is a very important issue we're talking about."

We are just lucky you come from a state that your Presidential vote doesn't matter.
(Unless you are an ACORN rep.)

I think Texans are in for a big surprise this year in who the state casts votes for President. I see Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, all the southern border towns going for Obama.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:21:27 AM EDT

[#16]

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Jesus Christ...

It used to be standard practice for the senate to vote for the Presidents picks regardless of how you felt about their idealogy, as long as they were qualified. The discussion was about qualifications, not politics.

That ended for the dems in the 80's with Bork.

The repubs have been slower to inject politics into the judicial process. Much to their regret now I think.

True. There is a huge difference between nominating a justice and confirming his qualifications for the job. Democrats invented the litmus test, not Republicans.

Anyone who thinks McCain would nominate a Supreme Court justice whose idealogy he disagrees with has a screw loose.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:23:10 AM EDT

[#17]

Silence is correct. It wasn't always partisan.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:24:28 AM EDT

[#18]

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Jesus Christ...

It used to be standard practice for the senate to vote for the Presidents picks regardless of how you felt about their idealogy, as long as they were qualified. The discussion was about qualifications, not politics.

That ended for the dems in the 80's with Bork.

The repubs have been slower to inject politics into the judicial process. Much to their regret now I think.

True. There is a huge difference between nominating a justice and confirming his qualifications for the job. Democrats invented the litmus test, not Republicans.

Anyone who thinks McCain would nominate a Supreme Court justice whose idealogy he disagrees with has a screw loose.

Anyone who thinks McCain would nominate a Supreme Court justice whose idealogy he disagrees with has a screw loose.

My fear is that you are correct.

5sub

Yeah, I'll vote for McCain but never will I trust McCain.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:25:04 AM EDT

[#19]

If you think Politics in America is about voting for what conservatives want, you are crazy.
For decades, it's been about voting to Slow down what we absolutely DO NOT WANT.

socialism and constitutional amnesia is here. It's about limiting it.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:26:03 AM EDT

[#20]

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Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

I plan on it.

I guess you missed the part where he said he would appoint strict constitutionilst judges. Were you going down on your boyfriend at the time or did you just forget the english language?

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:26:51 AM EDT

[#21]

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If you think Politics in America is about voting for what conservatives want, you are crazy.
For decades, it's been about voting to Slow down what we absolutely DO NOT WANT.

socialism and constitutional amnesia is here. It's about limiting it.

We can only fight a delaying action...........until/unless some unthinkable disaster hits us like an interruption in the oil supply.

5sub

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:27:03 AM EDT

[#22]

Yep. McCain really is the lesser of two evils.
If McCain wins, he probably will appoint liberal justices.
If Obama wins, he definitely will appoint liberal justices.
Not a pleasant choice, but not a hard choice.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:28:15 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

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Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

I plan on it.

one more vote for hussien ...

brilliant

Have you watched the debates? McCain and Palin both believe in "Climate Change" as well. None of the Democrat nor Republican candidates are worthy. Did you forget McCain on the border issues? He is Senator of AZ, a border state. Where's the fence that has been approved by law? They do nothing, they will all be the same old business as usual. I'm not saying that as a slogan I just feel they will keep right on with the same Congress nonsense that prevails today. As such they don't get my vote.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:29:43 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

I plan on it.

I guess you missed the part where he said he would appoint strict constitutionilst judges. Were you going down on your boyfriend at the time or did you just forget the english language?

Take a hike idiot.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:31:37 AM EDT

[#25]

Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:33:16 AM EDT

[#26]

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Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Sure he won't. If the opportunity arises he will appoint at best a moderate judge.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:35:07 AM EDT

[#27]

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Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Sure he won't. If the opportunity arises he will appoint at best a moderate judge.

Lie, Divide and conquer, lie, divide and conquer, lie, divide and conquer, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa, etc., etc, etc., ad nauseum and on and on……..

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:35:48 AM EDT

[#28]

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Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Sure he won't. If the opportunity arises he will appoint at best a moderate judge.

Except his own words prove you wrong.

And he voted to confirm Robert Bork. Perhaps you've heard of him?

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:36:49 AM EDT

[#29]

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Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Sure he won't. If the opportunity arises he will appoint at best a moderate judge.

Except his own words prove you wrong.

And he voted to confirm Robert Bork. Perhaps you've heard of him?

No, I haven't will look up it now.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:39:10 AM EDT

[#30]

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Yeah, your right. You've convinced me.

Do us all a favor and vote a third party candidate.

I plan on it.

Cynthia McKinney thanks you for your support.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:39:52 AM EDT

[#31]

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Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Sure he won't. If the opportunity arises he will appoint at best a moderate judge.

Except his own words prove you wrong.

And he voted to confirm Robert Bork. Perhaps you've heard of him?

No, I haven't will look up it now.

I'll save you the time, since your answer showed you're probably my age.

Justice Bork was the man who was nominated to take what is now Justice Thomas' seat on the court. His nomination started the current 'litmus test' bullshit that the Democrats are using. Bork was an originalist in the mold of Scalia and extremely conservative. The Democrats absolutely destroyed him personally, looking through his video rentals and personal life. Ted Kennedy stood on the Senate floor and said that Robert Bork's America "is a place where a woman has to go into a back alley to get an abortion," amongst other things.

Bork wasn't confirmed, by a long shot. And yet, McCain voted to confirm this extremely conservative Judge when the majority of the Senate would not.

What does that tell you?

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:42:55 AM EDT

[#32]

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Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Sure he won't. If the opportunity arises he will appoint at best a moderate judge.

His VP choice was moderate at best.......NOT!

Remember, Those Ross Perot Idiots got us Slick Willie in 92.

Kinda like the guy who couldn't decide between an average girl and a crack whore so he bought a blow up doll.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:43:12 AM EDT

[#33]

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Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Sure he won't. If the opportunity arises he will appoint at best a moderate judge.

Except his own words prove you wrong.

And he voted to confirm Robert Bork. Perhaps you've heard of him?

No, I haven't will look up it now.

I'll save you the time, since your answer showed you're probably my age.

Justice Bork was the man who was nominated to take what is now Justice Thomas' seat on the court. His nomination started the current 'litmus test' bullshit that the Democrats are using. Bork was an originalist in the mold of Scalia and extremely conservative. The Democrats absolutely destroyed him personally, looking through his video rentals and personal life. Ted Kennedy stood on the Senate floor and said that Robert Bork's America "is a place where a woman has to go into a back alley to get an abortion," amongst other things.

Bork wasn't confirmed, by a long shot. And yet, McCain voted to confirm this extremely conservative Judge when the majority of the Senate would not.

What does that tell you?

You just drank AR15Texan's milkshake?

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:43:51 AM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

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Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Sure he won't. If the opportunity arises he will appoint at best a moderate judge.

Except his own words prove you wrong.

And he voted to confirm Robert Bork. Perhaps you've heard of him?

No, I haven't will look up it now.

I'll save you the time, since your answer showed you're probably my age.

Justice Bork was the man who was nominated to take what is now Justice Thomas' seat on the court. His nomination started the current 'litmus test' bullshit that the Democrats are using. Bork was an originalist in the mold of Scalia and extremely conservative. The Democrats absolutely destroyed him personally, looking through his video rentals and personal life. Ted Kennedy stood on the Senate floor and said that Robert Bork's America "is a place where a woman has to go into a back alley to get an abortion," amongst other things.

Bork wasn't confirmed, by a long shot. And yet, McCain voted to confirm this extremely conservative Judge when the majority of the Senate would not.

What does that tell you?

Shouldn't that be Kennedy's seat?

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:44:47 AM EDT

[#35]

I don't have a crystal ball so I do not know what kind of judges McCain will appoint...........I do know Obama's ideology is not in line with mine, I think it would be a fair guess that Obama would appoint people that would support his agenda

I would assume McCain would do the same, I want judges that are pro gun, conservative and Constitutionalists.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:45:12 AM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

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Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Sure he won't. If the opportunity arises he will appoint at best a moderate judge.

Except his own words prove you wrong.

And he voted to confirm Robert Bork. Perhaps you've heard of him?

No, I haven't will look up it now.

I'll save you the time, since your answer showed you're probably my age.

Justice Bork was the man who was nominated to take what is now Justice Thomas' seat on the court. His nomination started the current 'litmus test' bullshit that the Democrats are using. Bork was an originalist in the mold of Scalia and extremely conservative. The Democrats absolutely destroyed him personally, looking through his video rentals and personal life. Ted Kennedy stood on the Senate floor and said that Robert Bork's America "is a place where a woman has to go into a back alley to get an abortion," amongst other things.

Bork wasn't confirmed, by a long shot. And yet, McCain voted to confirm this extremely conservative Judge when the majority of the Senate would not.

What does that tell you?

You just drank AR15Texan's milkshake?

I DRANK IT UP.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:46:37 AM EDT

[#37]

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Shouldn't that be Kennedy's seat?

You are correct, sir.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:47:03 AM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

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Did everyone miss the part where McCain said he would not appoint a judge that wouldn't uphold the constitution? Maybe I'm the only 1 that heard that.

Sure he won't. If the opportunity arises he will appoint at best a moderate judge.

Except his own words prove you wrong.

And he voted to confirm Robert Bork. Perhaps you've heard of him?

No, I haven't will look up it now.

I'll save you the time, since your answer showed you're probably my age.

Justice Bork was the man who was nominated to take what is now Justice Thomas' seat on the court. His nomination started the current 'litmus test' bullshit that the Democrats are using. Bork was an originalist in the mold of Scalia and extremely conservative. The Democrats absolutely destroyed him personally, looking through his video rentals and personal life. Ted Kennedy stood on the Senate floor and said that Robert Bork's America "is a place where a woman has to go into a back alley to get an abortion," amongst other things.

Bork wasn't confirmed, by a long shot. And yet, McCain voted to confirm this extremely conservative Judge when the majority of the Senate would not.

What does that tell you?

October 1987 vote 42 - Yeas, 58 - Nays.

Good to know he at least once voted for a Conservative judge, but I'm still leary of McCain. His authoring and support of the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform and his professing belief in climate change bother me. The lack of action on the border fence. Has he been a voice in getting the fence built?

I have a feeling McCain is only saying what Conservatives want to hear, but won't make good on his promises. He will just make excuses that the Democratical controlled Congress stop him from getting anywhere.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:47:49 AM EDT

[#39]

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It used to be standard practice for the senate to vote for the Presidents picks regardless of how you felt about their idealogy, as long as they were qualified.

And then came Thomas........

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:52:16 AM EDT

[#40]

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Jesus Christ...

It used to be standard practice for the senate to vote for the Presidents picks regardless of how you felt about their idealogy, as long as they were qualified. The discussion was about qualifications, not politics.

emphasis added.

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:54:41 AM EDT

[#41]

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We are just lucky you come from a state that your Presidential vote doesn't matter.
(Unless you are an ACORN rep.)

We're still McCain +31% in OK

Posted: 10/16/2008 9:58:31 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:

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Jesus Christ...

It used to be standard practice for the senate to vote for the Presidents picks regardless of how you felt about their idealogy, as long as they were qualified. The discussion was about qualifications, not politics.

emphasis added.

I understand the point and have considered it. The few that have bothered to be civil have helped me to understand McCain's comments during the debate. That he went along with tradition even though he didn't agree with the nominees idealogy and voted for Ginsburg.

My points are I thought he was a "maverick". So he folded twice and voted for liberal judges. C'mon you don't think he knew where that would head? It lead to legislation from the bench. Second, you really think McCain will get a conservative judge through appointment? In the end the Democrats won't allow it, past tradition obviously doesn't matter anymore. So I think McCain would compromise and nominate a moderate judge in order to get him/her through Congress.

If the judges are qualified why would he want to overturn Roe vs. Wade? Overturning qualified jugdes decisions will also bring the Heller case back up not somewhere I want to go.

Posted: 10/16/2008 10:05:48 AM EDT

[#43]

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I have a feeling McCain is only saying what Conservatives want to hear, but won't make good on his promises. He will just make excuses that the Democratical controlled Congress stop him from getting anywhere.

McCain wasn't my first choice. I disagree with him on a lot of things, campaign finance for one.

But right now it's either McCain or Obama. A vote not cast for McCain may as well be cast for Obama.

Living here in California, my vote isnt' worth much. It's pretty much a given that Obama will win this state. It's you guys in the red states who can make a difference. You can win it or you can lose it.

One thing I've learned about McCain over the years, whether you like him or not, he is a man of his word. I don't always agree with him, but I trust him. I don't trust Obama one iota.

Posted: 10/16/2008 10:07:15 AM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

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Jesus Christ...

It used to be standard practice for the senate to vote for the Presidents picks regardless of how you felt about their idealogy, as long as they were qualified. The discussion was about qualifications, not politics.

emphasis added.

I understand the point and have considered it. The few that have bothered to be civil have helped me to understand McCain's comments during the debate. That he went along with tradition even though he didn't agree with the nominees idealogy and voted for Ginsburg.

My points are I thought he was a "maverick". So he folded twice and voted for liberal judges. C'mon you don't think he knew where that would head? It lead to legislation from the bench. Second, you really think McCain will get a conservative judge through appointment? In the end the Democrats won't allow it, past tradition obviously doesn't matter anymore. So I think McCain would compromise and nominate a moderate judge in order to get him/her through Congress.

Yes, he will. Have you not been paying attention to Bush's appointments? Alito and Roberts are on our side in the Second Amendment debate.

You know for a fact Obama will appoint justices who disagree with Heller and will not favor incorporation.

That's really what we need to take away from this.

Posted: 10/16/2008 10:07:25 AM EDT

[#45]

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I have a feeling McCain is only saying what Conservatives want to hear, but won't make good on his promises. He will just make excuses that the Democratical controlled Congress stop him from getting anywhere.

McCain wasn't my first choice. I disagree with him on a lot of things, campaign finance for one.

But right now it's either McCain or Obama. A vote not cast for McCain may as well be cast for Obama.

Living here in California, my vote isnt' worth much. It's pretty much a given that Obama will win this state. It's you guys in the red states who can make a difference. You can win it or you can lose it.

One thing I've learned about McCain over the years, whether you like him or not, he is a man of his word. I don't always agree with him, but I trust him. I don't trust Obama one iota.

+1 If you aren't voting for McCain you are helping Obama win.

Posted: 10/16/2008 10:09:04 AM EDT

[#46]

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I also thought the idea that I should vote for McCain so he can put conservative, "gun friendly" judges into the Supreme Court was a bunch on nonsense. Now he's proven it , from the debate last night:

John McCain, "I voted for Justice Breyer and Justice Ginsburg. Not because I agreed with their ideology, but because I thought they were qualified and that elections have consequences when presidents are nominated. This is a very important issue we're talking about."

McCain has this quaint view that the President has a right to have judges that comport with his own judicial philosophy and all the Senate's role is to make sure they are of the caliber necessary to serve on the Supreme Court.

Democrats broke with this tradition back during the Bork nomination because they decided they wanted to control the courts so they could pass policy preferences they couldn't get through Congress because the President could veto them.

Now the check against the Judicial branch only works against conservatives. Oh, and McCain helped them achieve this also in the federal courts back in 2005.

Posted: 10/16/2008 10:12:53 AM EDT

[#47]

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I have a feeling McCain is only saying what Conservatives want to hear, but won't make good on his promises. He will just make excuses that the Democratical controlled Congress stop him from getting anywhere.

McCain wasn't my first choice. I disagree with him on a lot of things, campaign finance for one.

But right now it's either McCain or Obama. A vote not cast for McCain may as well be cast for Obama.

Living here in California, my vote isnt' worth much. It's pretty much a given that Obama will win this state. It's you guys in the red states who can make a difference. You can win it or you can lose it.

One thing I've learned about McCain over the years, whether you like him or not, he is a man of his word. I don't always agree with him, but I trust him. I don't trust Obama one iota.

+1 If you aren't voting for McCain you are helping Obama win.

The Republicans have thrown the Conservative base under the bus. Unfortunately it might be necessary for four years of hell under Obama to wake the Republicans up.

Posted: 10/16/2008 10:12:59 AM EDT

[#48]

While Bork may have been a conservative, he was no friend of ours:

Bork also advocates a modification to the Constitution which would allow Congressional super-majorities to override Supreme Court decisions, similar to the Canadian notwithstanding clause. Though Bork has many liberal critics, some of his arguments have earned criticism from conservatives as well. Although an opponent of gun control[13], Bork has denounced what he calls the "NRA view" of the Second Amendment, something he describes as the "belief that the constitution guarantees a right to Teflon-coated bullets." Instead, he has argued that the Second Amendment merely guarantees a right to participate in a government militia.[14]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bork

As it turned out, when Heller came along, Kennedy was the better choice! Who knew?

Posted: 10/16/2008 10:14:52 AM EDT

[#49]

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I have a feeling McCain is only saying what Conservatives want to hear, but won't make good on his promises. He will just make excuses that the Democratical controlled Congress stop him from getting anywhere.

McCain wasn't my first choice. I disagree with him on a lot of things, campaign finance for one.

But right now it's either McCain or Obama. A vote not cast for McCain may as well be cast for Obama.

Living here in California, my vote isnt' worth much. It's pretty much a given that Obama will win this state. It's you guys in the red states who can make a difference. You can win it or you can lose it.

One thing I've learned about McCain over the years, whether you like him or not, he is a man of his word. I don't always agree with him, but I trust him. I don't trust Obama one iota.

+1 If you aren't voting for McCain you are helping Obama win.

The Republicans have thrown the Conservative base under the bus. Unfortunately it might be necessary for four years of hell under Obama to wake the Republicans up.

That's not a chance I want to take. With the dems in control of the senate and house we (gun owners) will likely get screwed.

Posted: 10/16/2008 10:15:50 AM EDT

[#50]

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I also thought the idea that I should vote for McCain so he can put conservative, "gun friendly" judges into the Supreme Court was a bunch on nonsense. Now he's proven it , from the debate last night:

John McCain, "I voted for Justice Breyer and Justice Ginsburg. Not because I agreed with their ideology, but because I thought they were qualified and that elections have consequences when presidents are nominated. This is a very important issue we're talking about."

You're making yourself look like an ignorant boob who has no concept of the Constitutional responsibility of United States Senators.

Bashing McCain for honorably and properly discharging his Constitutional duty is absurd and silly.

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