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Posted: 10/3/2014 2:49:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2014 2:50:29 AM EST by M4A1]
Video of F22 Raptor refueling at night - then off to do some bombing....
(video is second box down)

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/video-the-invisible-f-22-raptor-flying-on-its-way-to-b-1641830571



Link Posted: 10/3/2014 3:03:35 AM EST
Cool Video

That was a really bright green strobe light coming from that city. Never seen anything like that when flying at night.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 3:05:43 AM EST
Needs more B-52 carpet bombing with Moab's..
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 3:13:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Cool Video

That was a really bright green strobe light coming from that city. Never seen anything like that when flying at night.
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Only green light I see is the Raptor's wing light.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 3:15:44 AM EST
the videos and such coming out of that operation are hilarious when you think about it. its not the usual "heres everything we hit, heres the damage assessment." it's "look look we're REALLY doing something!"
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 3:23:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2014 3:24:57 AM EST by TheBandito]
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Originally Posted By Devils_Advocate:




Only green light I see is the Raptor's wing light.
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Originally Posted By Devils_Advocate:
Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Cool Video

That was a really bright green strobe light coming from that city. Never seen anything like that when flying at night.




Only green light I see is the Raptor's wing light.


I saw it a couple times. I'd say it was a green laser pointer. You can see it slightly forward and left of the wingtip at 1:01. It is pretty much right at the edge of the video. You can see another one @ 1:04 just above the dark line running left to right in the big cluster of lights.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:08:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheBandito:


I saw it a couple times. I'd say it was a green laser pointer. You can see it slightly forward and left of the wingtip at 1:01. It is pretty much right at the edge of the video. You can see another one @ 1:04 just above the dark line running left to right in the big cluster of lights.
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Originally Posted By TheBandito:
Originally Posted By Devils_Advocate:
Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Cool Video

That was a really bright green strobe light coming from that city. Never seen anything like that when flying at night.




Only green light I see is the Raptor's wing light.


I saw it a couple times. I'd say it was a green laser pointer. You can see it slightly forward and left of the wingtip at 1:01. It is pretty much right at the edge of the video. You can see another one @ 1:04 just above the dark line running left to right in the big cluster of lights.


Okay, I see it now. Yeah, that is an intense light. Weird.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:14:07 PM EST
Airport beacon, I saw white and green.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:17:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2014 1:23:01 PM EST by BullseyeAg]
First of all, cool video.

Second, though, here's a stupid question: why are we using F-22s to bomb ISIS instead of B-52s or F-16s? I assume that the operating cost of the F-22s is higher than several other options. Is there any reason to use a fifth-generation stealth fighter to drop bombs in Iraq and Syria?
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:23:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BullseyeAg:
First of all, awesome.

Second, though, here's a stupid question: why are we using F-22s to bomb ISIS instead of B-52s or F-16s? I assume that the operating cost of the F-22s is higher than several other options. Is there any reason to use a fifth-generation stealth fighter to drop bombs in Iraq and Syria?
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Syria has a pretty decent air defense force... compliments of Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Air_Defense_Force
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:30:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2014 1:30:57 PM EST by whollyshite]
That's pretty badass.

To our mil, and ex-mil, pilots, how hard is a nighttime mid-air refuel? Is it hard to keep the plane in sync with the tanker? It seems like it would be a "white knuckle" type experience.

What happens if you hit turbulence while connected?
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:30:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Rustler:


Syria has a pretty decent air defense force... compliments of Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Air_Defense_Force
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Originally Posted By Rustler:
Originally Posted By BullseyeAg:
First of all, awesome.

Second, though, here's a stupid question: why are we using F-22s to bomb ISIS instead of B-52s or F-16s? I assume that the operating cost of the F-22s is higher than several other options. Is there any reason to use a fifth-generation stealth fighter to drop bombs in Iraq and Syria?


Syria has a pretty decent air defense force... compliments of Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Air_Defense_Force


Are the Assad-controlled air defenses a threat to our planes as they drop bombs on anti-Assad ISIS? On the other hand, I guess plenty of Syrian missiles have fallen into ISIS hands during their civil war.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:34:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BullseyeAg:


Are the Assad-controlled air defenses a threat to our planes as they drop bombs on anti-Assad ISIS? On the other hand, I guess plenty of Syrian missiles have fallen into ISIS hands during their civil war.
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Originally Posted By BullseyeAg:
Originally Posted By Rustler:
Originally Posted By BullseyeAg:
First of all, awesome.

Second, though, here's a stupid question: why are we using F-22s to bomb ISIS instead of B-52s or F-16s? I assume that the operating cost of the F-22s is higher than several other options. Is there any reason to use a fifth-generation stealth fighter to drop bombs in Iraq and Syria?


Syria has a pretty decent air defense force... compliments of Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Air_Defense_Force


Are the Assad-controlled air defenses a threat to our planes as they drop bombs on anti-Assad ISIS? On the other hand, I guess plenty of Syrian missiles have fallen into ISIS hands during their civil war.


Who knows what kind of OUR OLD ASSETS are in ISIS hands now. FBHO.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:41:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BullseyeAg:


Are the Assad-controlled air defenses a threat to our planes as they drop bombs on anti-Assad ISIS? On the other hand, I guess plenty of Syrian missiles have fallen into ISIS hands during their civil war.
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Originally Posted By BullseyeAg:
Originally Posted By Rustler:
Originally Posted By BullseyeAg:
First of all, awesome.

Second, though, here's a stupid question: why are we using F-22s to bomb ISIS instead of B-52s or F-16s? I assume that the operating cost of the F-22s is higher than several other options. Is there any reason to use a fifth-generation stealth fighter to drop bombs in Iraq and Syria?


Syria has a pretty decent air defense force... compliments of Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Air_Defense_Force


Are the Assad-controlled air defenses a threat to our planes as they drop bombs on anti-Assad ISIS? On the other hand, I guess plenty of Syrian missiles have fallen into ISIS hands during their civil war.


Let's look at it this way: do you really want to trust Assad, his forces, or anyone else in that country, for anything?
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:43:36 PM EST
Plus, an opportunity to collect data on real world missions and test out specific TTPs for the aircraft in a low intensity conflict.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:51:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2014 1:51:30 PM EST by sweptvolume]
With all both of its bombs.
















Link Posted: 10/3/2014 1:52:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheBandito:


I saw it a couple times. I'd say it was a green laser pointer. You can see it slightly forward and left of the wingtip at 1:01. It is pretty much right at the edge of the video. You can see another one @ 1:04 just above the dark line running left to right in the big cluster of lights.
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Originally Posted By TheBandito:
Originally Posted By Devils_Advocate:
Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Cool Video

That was a really bright green strobe light coming from that city. Never seen anything like that when flying at night.




Only green light I see is the Raptor's wing light.


I saw it a couple times. I'd say it was a green laser pointer. You can see it slightly forward and left of the wingtip at 1:01. It is pretty much right at the edge of the video. You can see another one @ 1:04 just above the dark line running left to right in the big cluster of lights.


I thought there were also less bright flashes from the same spot. Possibly a heliport beacon? I know that airfield beacons are very bright thanks tot he Fresnel lenses and that the green light always seems brighter than the white light. I imagine that the additional yellow light on a heliport beacon would look dimmer than the green light would be as well.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 3:23:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sweptvolume:
With all both of its bombs.
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Yes, quite possibly with all both of its 2 to 8 bombs.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:42:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FlyingGorilla:


I thought there were also less bright flashes from the same spot. Possibly a heliport beacon? I know that airfield beacons are very bright thanks tot he Fresnel lenses and that the green light always seems brighter than the white light. I imagine that the additional yellow light on a heliport beacon would look dimmer than the green light would be as well.
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Originally Posted By FlyingGorilla:
Originally Posted By TheBandito:
Originally Posted By Devils_Advocate:
Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Cool Video

That was a really bright green strobe light coming from that city. Never seen anything like that when flying at night.




Only green light I see is the Raptor's wing light.


I saw it a couple times. I'd say it was a green laser pointer. You can see it slightly forward and left of the wingtip at 1:01. It is pretty much right at the edge of the video. You can see another one @ 1:04 just above the dark line running left to right in the big cluster of lights.


I thought there were also less bright flashes from the same spot. Possibly a heliport beacon? I know that airfield beacons are very bright thanks tot he Fresnel lenses and that the green light always seems brighter than the white light. I imagine that the additional yellow light on a heliport beacon would look dimmer than the green light would be as well.


That could be a possibility. It seemed to random to be an airport beacon though.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 5:08:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By L_JE:


Let's look at it this way: do you really want to trust Assad, his forces, or anyone else in that country, for anything?
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Originally Posted By BullseyeAg:
Originally Posted By Rustler:
Originally Posted By BullseyeAg:
First of all, awesome.

Second, though, here's a stupid question: why are we using F-22s to bomb ISIS instead of B-52s or F-16s? I assume that the operating cost of the F-22s is higher than several other options. Is there any reason to use a fifth-generation stealth fighter to drop bombs in Iraq and Syria?


Syria has a pretty decent air defense force... compliments of Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Air_Defense_Force


Are the Assad-controlled air defenses a threat to our planes as they drop bombs on anti-Assad ISIS? On the other hand, I guess plenty of Syrian missiles have fallen into ISIS hands during their civil war.


Let's look at it this way: do you really want to trust Assad, his forces, or anyone else in that country, for anything?


Nope, the only people we can trust in the middle east is Israel.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 5:40:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By whollyshite:
That's pretty badass.

To our mil, and ex-mil, pilots, how hard is a nighttime mid-air refuel? Is it hard to keep the plane in sync with the tanker? It seems like it would be a "white knuckle" type experience.

What happens if you hit turbulence while connected?
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Night is a little more challenging compared to day. The visual cues are harder to pick up on and you notice changes just a little bit later than in day. In smooth air it's not really that bad. When it gets rough, or you are in WX, it sucks.

When going through turbulence, the tanker is going through the same stuff so theoretically it shouldn't be too bad. It is A LOT more work to stay on the boom though. It's always comforting to see the tankers wings flapping like a bird when going through turb. Even the boom will bounce around. Kinda like bull riding, except for 20+ minutes for the big jets.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 5:43:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Devils_Advocate:


Okay, I see it now. Yeah, that is an intense light. Weird.
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Originally Posted By Devils_Advocate:
Originally Posted By TheBandito:
Originally Posted By Devils_Advocate:
Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Cool Video

That was a really bright green strobe light coming from that city. Never seen anything like that when flying at night.




Only green light I see is the Raptor's wing light.


I saw it a couple times. I'd say it was a green laser pointer. You can see it slightly forward and left of the wingtip at 1:01. It is pretty much right at the edge of the video. You can see another one @ 1:04 just above the dark line running left to right in the big cluster of lights.


Okay, I see it now. Yeah, that is an intense light. Weird.


It does look like a green laser. Common for that part of the world to shine them at aircraft.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 5:58:25 AM EST
Very cool video.

I'm sure that its bombing run was really effective.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 6:05:52 AM EST
When I was younger I thought meh......easy peezy air to air refueling.

Now I am absolutely in awe of the skill and precision that these guys/gals exibit when they do this.....

Nice work.....now kill somemore of those fuckers.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:26:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BTccw:
When I was younger I thought meh......easy peezy air to air refueling.

Now I am absolutely in awe of the skill and precision that these guys/gals exibit when they do this.....

Nice work.....now kill somemore of those fuckers.
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^^This
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:29:57 PM EST
Hey- isn't that the plane Obama insisted be behind him during a speech in Alaska? Hmm- looks different.


Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:38:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2014 2:39:42 PM EST by Greggo556]
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Originally Posted By ED_P:
Hey- isn't that the plane Obama insisted be behind him during a speech in Alaska? Hmm- looks different.

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Pretty sure that's an F-15.

*Edit* I don't what speech you are referring to.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:42:49 PM EST
Isn't the F-35A already operational?

I thought it was a larger airframe that is more capable for air-to-ground missions than the F-22? I know the USAF is probably excited to finally use the F-22 on a combat mission, but I thought we had purchased the F-35 for this kind of thing.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:45:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Greggo556:
Isn't the F-35A already operational?

I thought it was a larger airframe that is more capable for air-to-ground missions than the F-22? I know the USAF is probably excited to finally use the F-22 on a combat mission, but I thought we had purchased the F-35 for this kind of thing.
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It might rain and make it asplode so they can't chance it.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:53:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Greggo556:
Isn't the F-35A already operational?

I thought it was a larger airframe that is more capable for air-to-ground missions than the F-22? I know the USAF is probably excited to finally use the F-22 on a combat mission, but I thought we had purchased the F-35 for this kind of thing.
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The fleet's been grounded a few times due to issues. Who can keep up with if it's operational or not?

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Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:58:55 PM EST
Bombing with an F-22 is like delivering mattresses with a Ferrari.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 3:11:02 PM EST
Why is there 1 red light and 1 green light on jet?

Link Posted: 10/4/2014 3:28:25 PM EST
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left and right.
just like a boat.
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