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Posted: 6/30/2015 5:40:48 AM EDT
http://www.policeone.com/officer-shootings/articles/8633327-Video-Mich-cop-cleared-in-fatal-OIS-footage-released
 Guilford was pulled over for flashing his brights at an oncoming vehicle closer than 500 feet. He refused to show Frost identification or proof of insurance. He refused to put his hands behind his back when the officer attempted to arrest him, resulting in use of an ECD. When the device was ineffective, the altercation moved to a ditch beside the road. Guilford, on his back, began punching the officer in the face. Frost reported that his mouth was full of blood and that was about to lose consciousness when he reached for his firearm. With Frost’s body camera knocked off, and Guilford’s cellphone on the pavement, only audio from the phone captured the shooting. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 5:42:29 AM EDT
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in.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 5:54:12 AM EDT
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Kid took "Am I being detained?" too far. Although that body cam was basically useless once some action started. Hard to tell what actually happened after the taze. If the officer's injuries were consistent with his story, I say good shoot.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 6:32:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2015 6:56:02 AM EDT
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Watching too many Cop Block videos can be hazardous to your health.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 7:06:14 AM EDT
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Didn't we do this one already?
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Posted: 6/30/2015 7:17:16 AM EDT
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Didn't we do this one already? At least once. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 8:36:07 AM EDT
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IN! Before the dupe lock. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 8:47:53 AM EDT
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So why would this kid be flashing his lights if the other cars lights were not on high.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:00:13 AM EDT
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So why would this kid be flashing his lights if the other cars lights were not on high. Libertah? Freedah? Constitatahtah? 
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:07:02 AM EDT
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That little shit went from, I saw a guy make a fool out of an officer on a traffic stop.
To, I'll just beat the shit out of him, since he is too smart to fall for my bullshit. This is a trend. I got in a fight making an arrest last week. The guy was screaming "Don't kill me" While trying to kill me. When I briefly had an arm bar, he would scream, "I tap, I tap". I had to pepper spray him, and myself to gain control. If it had gone much longer, I would have had to shoot him. Be safe. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:56:28 AM EDT
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The kid was a tool.............however, it is upsetting that all of this happened because the cop's headlights were so bright that they were blinding oncoming traffic (the officer admitted to this while explaining to the kid that other people have flashed their hi beams at him tonight as well. But they all got warnings and were explained that it is a new car so the lights are new/bright). Seems a bit like a case of "I'm a cop, don't flash your high beam at me". At some point, after having a few people do it, just let it go and understand that your bright headlights are annoying people.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:59:09 AM EDT
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1st page lock beaten.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:07:41 AM EDT
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Didn't we do this one already? Yep. Kid was an idiot. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:09:09 AM EDT
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He won the ultimate prize.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:10:28 AM EDT
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The kid was a tool.............however, it is upsetting that all of this happened because the cop's headlights were so bright that they were blinding oncoming traffic (the officer admitted to this while explaining to the kid that other people have flashed their hi beams at him tonight as well. But they all got warnings and were explained that it is a new car so the lights are new/bright). Seems a bit like a case of "I'm a cop, don't flash your high beam at me". At some point, after having a few people do it, just let it go and understand that your bright headlights are annoying people. Really |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:19:15 AM EDT
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I am not a big cop fan at all and am the first to admit that alot of cops are complete tools. However your everyday citizens are tools as well. This is a good shoot in my opinion. The kid should have handed over his drivers liscense. He broke the law and was about to pay the price but he showed his ass and did not respect the authority of the police man.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:22:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The kid was a tool.............however, it is upsetting that all of this happened because the cop's headlights were so bright that they were blinding oncoming traffic (the officer admitted to this while explaining to the kid that other people have flashed their hi beams at him tonight as well. But they all got warnings and were explained that it is a new car so the lights are new/bright). Seems a bit like a case of "I'm a cop, don't flash your high beam at me". At some point, after having a few people do it, just let it go and understand that your bright headlights are annoying people. We already did this one. There was nothing wrong with the cops lights or with their alignment. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:22:49 AM EDT
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The kid was a tool.............however, it is upsetting that all of this happened because the cop's headlights were so bright that they were blinding oncoming traffic (the officer admitted to this while explaining to the kid that other people have flashed their hi beams at him tonight as well. But they all got warnings and were explained that it is a new car so the lights are new/bright). Seems a bit like a case of "I'm a cop, don't flash your high beam at me". At some point, after having a few people do it, just let it go and understand that your bright headlights are annoying people. Lol. Is THAT really why all this happened? None of those other motorists managed to get themselves killed. And haven't we covered this enough times. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:06:55 PM EDT
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Lol. Is THAT really why all this happened? None of those other motorists managed to get themselves killed. And haven't we covered this enough times. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The kid was a tool.............however, it is upsetting that all of this happened because the cop's headlights were so bright that they were blinding oncoming traffic (the officer admitted to this while explaining to the kid that other people have flashed their hi beams at him tonight as well. But they all got warnings and were explained that it is a new car so the lights are new/bright). Seems a bit like a case of "I'm a cop, don't flash your high beam at me". At some point, after having a few people do it, just let it go and understand that your bright headlights are annoying people. Lol. Is THAT really why all this happened? None of those other motorists managed to get themselves killed. And haven't we covered this enough times. If your so tired of this being covered then why did you even come into the thread? This is the first time I have heard about this......you spend more time on the site than me.....yay, you win! |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:10:41 PM EDT
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We already did this one. There was nothing wrong with the cops lights or with their alignment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The kid was a tool.............however, it is upsetting that all of this happened because the cop's headlights were so bright that they were blinding oncoming traffic (the officer admitted to this while explaining to the kid that other people have flashed their hi beams at him tonight as well. But they all got warnings and were explained that it is a new car so the lights are new/bright). Seems a bit like a case of "I'm a cop, don't flash your high beam at me". At some point, after having a few people do it, just let it go and understand that your bright headlights are annoying people. We already did this one. There was nothing wrong with the cops lights or with their alignment. Then why did the cop say that other motorists had flashed him as well? I paraphrased the cop's own words, not my own. And I never said had shoot or the cop did wrong. I said it was a shame this all started with the cop pulling him over for flashing his hi beams at him......especially since it had already been done numerous times. Some of you guys need to listen and read a little better. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:19:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IN! Before the dupe lock.  |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:21:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We already did this one. There was nothing wrong with the cops lights or with their alignment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The kid was a tool.............however, it is upsetting that all of this happened because the cop's headlights were so bright that they were blinding oncoming traffic (the officer admitted to this while explaining to the kid that other people have flashed their hi beams at him tonight as well. But they all got warnings and were explained that it is a new car so the lights are new/bright). Seems a bit like a case of "I'm a cop, don't flash your high beam at me". At some point, after having a few people do it, just let it go and understand that your bright headlights are annoying people. We already did this one. There was nothing wrong with the cops lights or with their alignment. Even if there was, that's no excuse for not being able to have a reasonable contact with a cop, even it includes recieving a traffic citation you didn't deserve. Argue it with a judge, not on the side of the road with an armed stranger who's not interested in your bullshit. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:44:58 PM EDT
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The kid was a tool.............however, it is upsetting that all of this happened because the cop's headlights were so bright that they were blinding oncoming traffic (the officer admitted to this while explaining to the kid that other people have flashed their hi beams at him tonight as well. But they all got warnings and were explained that it is a new car so the lights are new/bright). Seems a bit like a case of "I'm a cop, don't flash your high beam at me". At some point, after having a few people do it, just let it go and understand that your bright headlights are annoying people. Maybe the car's headlights didn't come aimed properly. Sometimes this is on the dealer's pre-delivery prep list, and I bet it wasn't done in this case. If multiple people flashed him in one night, then the lights obviously need to be adjusted. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:58:09 PM EDT
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Good shoot. One less POS causing problems.
Oh, and IBTL |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 12:04:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why did the cop say that other motorists had flashed him as well? I paraphrased the cop's own words, not my own. And I never said had shoot or the cop did wrong. I said it was a shame this all started with the cop pulling him over for flashing his hi beams at him......especially since it had already been done numerous times. Some of you guys need to listen and read a little better. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The kid was a tool.............however, it is upsetting that all of this happened because the cop's headlights were so bright that they were blinding oncoming traffic (the officer admitted to this while explaining to the kid that other people have flashed their hi beams at him tonight as well. But they all got warnings and were explained that it is a new car so the lights are new/bright). Seems a bit like a case of "I'm a cop, don't flash your high beam at me". At some point, after having a few people do it, just let it go and understand that your bright headlights are annoying people. We already did this one. There was nothing wrong with the cops lights or with their alignment. Then why did the cop say that other motorists had flashed him as well? I paraphrased the cop's own words, not my own. And I never said had shoot or the cop did wrong. I said it was a shame this all started with the cop pulling him over for flashing his hi beams at him......especially since it had already been done numerous times. Some of you guys need to listen and read a little better. The cop was trying "verbal judo" to settle the kid down and stop his arguing. The cop lied to appear sympathetic to the kids complaint. No one else had flashed their brights at the cop, there was nothing wrong with the police car lights, and its illegal pretty much everywhere to flash your high beams at an oncoming car within 500'. It was a good stop, that would have probably resulted in a "don't do that" warning, if the kid had acted somewhere closer to reasonable. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 12:16:39 AM EDT
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Was that kid retarded? Like literally mentally defective, or just on meds?
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Posted: 7/1/2015 12:16:43 AM EDT
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Didn't we do this one already? 
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Posted: 7/1/2015 1:24:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was that kid retarded? Like literally mentally defective, or just on meds? High on Righteous Indignation. Very addictive stuff. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 1:25:26 PM EDT
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Didn't we do this one already? He's a Zombie?! 
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Posted: 7/1/2015 1:26:46 PM EDT
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was about to lose consensus??
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Posted: 7/1/2015 1:36:54 PM EDT
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  The Eaton County Prosecutor’s Office released photos it says show Sgt. Jonathan Frost’s injuries a day after announcing there would be no charges for the fatal shooting of Deven Guilford. (Photo: Lansing State Journal) |
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