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Posted: 8/22/2006 9:57:21 PM EDT
Nod along and say it with me... "Damn straight motherfucker!"

Robbery death called murder

An accused teenage robber faces a murder charge after his teenage uncle was shot and killed last week by the pair's intended victim.

Jacob Grant, 18, of the 5900 block of South Justice Street, Chicago, is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the fatal shooting Thursday of his 16-year-old uncle, Javosky Holmes, in Hazel Crest.
So his uncle was two years younger than him!??? WTF?

Holmes, Grant and a 14-year-old boy planned to rob Brian Katlik as he sat in his car in the 17300 block of Mahoney Parkway, according to Cmdr. John Palcu, of the South Suburban Major Crimes Task Force.

He said Holmes shot and wounded Katlik, who returned fire and hit Holmes in the abdomen. Holmes staggered across a field and collapsed in a creek while Katlik ran in the opposite direction and flagged down a passer-by who took him to a hospital, Palcu said.

Holmes, of 2815 Lexington Drive, Hazel Crest, was pronounced dead at St. James Hospital in Olympia Fields soon after, but Katlik survived. He's in stable condition at St. James.

Grant was apprehended Saturday after evading arrest for more than 48 hours, Palcu said.

"Grant has been charged with the homicide because he was involved in the commission of the crime and went with Holmes," Palcu said Monday.

Tandra Simonton, a spokeswoman for the Cook County state's attorney's office, said Grant was "committing a robbery, which means he's responsible for whatever happens" during the course of the crime.

The 14-year-old youth has spoken with officers but has not been charged, Palcu said, adding that Katlik had surrendered his 9 mm handgun and that Holmes' weapon was recovered from the scene.

On Friday, Holmes' mother, Quying Holmes, described him as "a cool kid" who had "fallen in with a bad group of boys." He was a student at Country Club Hills Tech and Trade Center but always wanted to be a doctor, she said.

Grant, who has previously been charged with and cleared of assault, burglary and a sex offense, also faces battery charges in a separate case.

He's being held on $700,000 bail at Cook County Jail. His next court hearing is scheduled for Sept. 8 at the Markham courthouse.


Holmes' mother, Quying Holmes, described him as "a cool kid" who had "fallen in with a bad group of boys."

You're WRONG bitch!!! Your worthless POS fuckup thug-kid WAS a bad kid. Don't try blaming your gangbanging shitspawned sociopath's actions on anyone else but HIM.

Link Posted: 8/22/2006 9:59:44 PM EDT
[#1]
That's SOP for most states.
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 10:05:33 PM EDT
[#2]
I thought guns were illegal in Chicago?
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 10:11:33 PM EDT
[#3]
...contemplating what this guy's family tree must look like...

Say that grandmom has a kid when she is 16 and another kid when she is 45... nope the math does not work.

Wonder if he has one of those rare sister/moms or a father/brother? Naaa then the guy would have been his bruncle.
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 10:13:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Yeah, that sounds about right.  
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 10:26:30 PM EDT
[#5]
I got married the first time in 1977, and had a daughter. (Actually my wife had her, I just sired her).  She had her first kid in 1993.

I got remarried in 1994, and she had our son in 1995.

Soooo, my son's nephew is two years older than he is.
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 10:26:49 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
...contemplating what this guy's family tree must look like...

Say that grandmom has a kid when she is 16 and another kid when she is 45... nope the math does not work.

Wonder if he has one of those rare sister/moms or a father/brother? Naaa then the guy would have been his bruncle.


That's pretty much what happens in a roundabout way. I went to school with this girl (dated her for a while) we were 16 at the time. She had a niece that was 3 years older than her, and another that was her same age. Her parents were in their late 60s. She was somewhat of a late surprise in life, so to speak.

Strange, but it does happen.
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 10:30:09 PM EDT
[#7]
katlik, Javosky, Quying, Palcu, Tandra??
Where the fuck did this happen? In Bizarro China? Those names are all too weird.
Link Posted: 8/22/2006 10:39:13 PM EDT
[#8]
<sarcasm>How could this have happened?  Handguns have been banned in Shitcago since 1983 or so!(unless if you registered it before then and reregistered it every year since then yada yada yada...)</sarcasm>

I wonder if Katlik will be charged with defending himself with a firearm that is illegal in Chicago?

I also noticed the typical drivel of "he was a good kid, just was hanging out with the bad crowd" Lady, your kid is (err....was) the bad crowd...

Link Posted: 8/22/2006 11:09:43 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I got married the first time in 1977, and had a daughter. (Actually my wife had her, I just sired her).  She had her first kid in 1993.

I got remarried in 1994, and she had our son in 1995.

Soooo, my son's nephew is two years older than he is.


So you were a grandfather before you had your last kid....

(man there's some really good materal for viagra jokes that I'm much too tasteful to type)
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 3:45:44 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

So his uncle was two years younger than him!??? WTF?


You wouldn't understand.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 3:49:29 AM EDT
[#11]
"5900 block of South Justice Street"..... huh, how apropos
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 4:59:04 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
That's SOP for most states.


Felony Murder.  
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 5:03:57 AM EDT
[#13]
I'm my own grandpaw


Many, many years ago when I was twenty-three
I was married to a widow who was pretty as could be.
This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red.
My father fell in love with her and soon they, too, were wed.

This made my dad my son-in-law and changed my very life
For my daughter was my mother, 'cause she was my father's wife.
To complicate the matter, even though it brought me joy
I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy.

My little baby then became a brother-in-law to dad
And so became my uncle, though it made me very sad
For if he was my uncle, then that also made him brother
To the widow's grown-up daughter, who, of course, was my step-mother.

My father's wife then had a son who kept them on the run
And he became my grand-child, 'cause he was my daughter's son.
My wife is now my mother's mother, and it makes me blue
Because, although she is my wife, she's my grandmother too.

If my wife is my grandmother, then I am her grandchild
And every time I think of it, it nearly drives me wild
For now I have become the strangest case you ever saw
(This has got to be the strangest thing I ever saw)
As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpaw.

Chorus
I'm my own grandpaw
I'm my own grandpaw
It sounds funny I know
but it really is so
Oh, I'm my own grandpaw.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 5:20:15 AM EDT
[#14]
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 8:48:04 AM EDT
[#15]
Felony murder is right.  Great rule in my opinion.

More here:

Wiki Felony Murder
In its broadest form, a person is guilty of murder under the felony murder rule if he commits a dangerous felony and someone dies during or in furtherance of that felony.

bd
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 8:54:30 AM EDT
[#16]
Don't want to take this off topic but I worked with a guy who got married to a 30 year old when he was 18. He adopted her son who was 12 at the time. He's 30 now with a 24 year old son who calls him dad.

-JTP
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