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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:16:01 AM EDT
They do shoot IPSC / USPSA in Canada. The president of IPSC supposedly even lives there.
And it's not unusual to disable the grip safety on an IPSC "race gun" (although it is a very very bad idea, IMHO). |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:16:19 AM EDT
Tragic. May he RIP. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:17:41 AM EDT
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They do shoot IPSC / USPSA in Canada. The president of IPSC supposedly even lives there. And it's not unusual to disable the grip safety on an IPSC "race gun" (although it is a very very bad idea, IMHO). 
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:18:26 AM EDT
Damn, that sucks. First shooting-sport fatality I can remember hearing about in a long, long time.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:19:15 AM EDT
Sad
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:20:34 AM EDT
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Damn, that sucks. First shooting-sport fatality I can remember hearing about in a long, long time. it was Jan 2017 http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1955120_One-Dead-at-local-So--Cal-shooting-range--sounds-like-AD-.html |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:21:28 AM EDT
I didn't know him personally, but a few of my pals did.
RIP Richard Cho |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:21:44 AM EDT
This is why if guns/knifes fall you let them fall and don't try to grab them on the way down. Sad.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:23:16 AM EDT
Accidents are EXTREMELY rare in the sport of USPSA, 3gun / multi-gun, IPSC, IDPA, etc.
Fatalities are virtually unheard of. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:26:11 AM EDT
Looks like he gets to visit the big "DQ" in the sky... being a competition shooter I'm sure he's laughing at that joke in heaven.
In all seriousness... prayers for his family and hopefully it doesn't affect the range and its owners. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:26:38 AM EDT
Damn, what a shame.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:31:19 AM EDT
In a IDPA magazine last year it showed some guys shooting in Italy I think in a salt mine and they were all wearing soft armor. I thought that was pretty smart. I wish that it was done here state side.
And at the Skip-J range in Anderson SC a girl was killed last year. Not sure if it was at a match. I no longer attend that match because how sketchy that place is set up. 
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:32:13 AM EDT
Dont try to catch the fucking gun, especially a competition gun. That sucks, RIP.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:33:28 AM EDT
That's a shame
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:33:30 AM EDT
That sucks.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:36:43 AM EDT
If it was a glock he would be alive...
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:41:15 AM EDT
Did he take it to the body, or to the face?
Would armor have even been a factor here? ....I always visualize myself taking one to the face, so letting the gun fall is easy for me. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:43:23 AM EDT
Man, that sucks. It's just one of those things where you're so conditioned to try to catch things that you drop, very hard habit to break.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:44:22 AM EDT
We had a fatality here in CA not to long ago. A freakishly weird skip off the rifle range stuck and killed a USPSA competitor while he was standing around with his squad mates.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:52:51 AM EDT
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This is why if guns/knifes fall you let them fall and don't try to grab them on the way down. Sad.  True Lies - gun falling down stairs |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:56:21 AM EDT
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Did he take it to the body, or to the face? Would armor have even been a factor here? ....I always visualize myself taking one to the face, so letting the gun fall is easy for me. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:57:45 AM EDT
His safety was not removed or disabled. He was hit in the chest. It is not known if the gun was dropped and he tried to catch it, or if he snagged it on a door frame etc. It is a very sad thing.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:58:27 AM EDT
Never, ever, ever try to "catch" a dropped gun.
And THIS is exactly why. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 11:59:56 AM EDT
I've never even considered dropping a handgun before. Or more importantly what I would do if I dropped one?
I'm sorry to hear this but I am glad people are mentioning the obvious response or with the correct response would be, to let the gun hit the ground. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:00:09 PM EDT
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There was one in California in 2015 or so IIRC it was Jan 2017 http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1955120_One-Dead-at-local-So--Cal-shooting-range--sounds-like-AD-.html |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:00:55 PM EDT
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This is why if guns/knifes fall you let them fall and don't try to grab them on the way down. Sad.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:07:08 PM EDT
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I've never even considered dropping a handgun before. Or more importantly what I would do if I dropped one? I'm sorry to hear this but I am glad people are mentioning the obvious response or with the correct response would be, to let the gun hit the ground. competition is incredibly safe, I'd bet more people die as a percentage of participants playing softball or kayaking. I shot IDPA circuit for almost 10 years and all incidents I saw were minor errors negated by following the 4 rules. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:11:09 PM EDT
Man thats sad.
Fortunately I'm incompetent enough if I drop something I'm usually so surprised the object hits the ground before I even have time to react. Reflexes like a stoned dog. Oh yeah. 
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:11:23 PM EDT
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Accidents are EXTREMELY rare in the sport of USPSA, 3gun / multi-gun, IPSC, IDPA, etc. Fatalities are virtually unheard of. Of course under IPSC rules he would've been disqualified too |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:11:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:22:54 PM EDT
I never cared for the way IDPA allows pretty much any trigger weight. Just asking for problems. not to mention, who the Hell runs an issue/duty/home-defense gun with a 2# trigger?
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:27:40 PM EDT
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In a IDPA magazine last year it showed some guys shooting in Italy I think in a salt mine and they were all wearing soft armor. I thought that was pretty smart. I wish that it was done here state side. And at the Skip-J range in Anderson SC a girl was killed last year. Not sure if it was at a match. I no longer attend that match because how sketchy that place is set up. https://s7.postimg.org/oirc61rob/Untitled.png The shooting sports has fewer injuries per capita than bowling. This unfortunate incident aside, we're fine. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:28:10 PM EDT
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This is why if guns/knifes fall you let them fall and don't try to grab them on the way down. Sad. 
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:30:50 PM EDT
It should be the fifth rule: Never try to catch a falling gun.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:31:55 PM EDT
It's been years since I shot IPSC/USPSA, but I think I met him at a match in the Seattle area around 2006. If it's the same guy, he was a good competitor and was very nice and helpful to me as a relatively new competitor. Either way, this is very sad to see.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:32:04 PM EDT
Damn that sucks really bad but I still can't refrain from posting this gif
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:32:33 PM EDT
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They do shoot IPSC / USPSA in Canada. The president of IPSC supposedly even lives there. And it's not unusual to disable the grip safety on an IPSC "race gun" (although it is a very very bad idea, IMHO). 
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:38:14 PM EDT
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Of course under IPSC rules he would've been disqualified too |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:03:45 PM EDT
That is terrible to hear.
I haven't dropped a pistol per se but have tripped while running a couple of times and gone in for the face plant. The only thing I could think about while time slowed to a crawl is how to keep the pistol in a safe direction, get it on safe, finger off trigger, here comes the ground, damn it sure is taking a long time to fall, OMG, can we just get this over already, SPLAT! Owww. OK, RO didn't say stop so let's keep going! Hope he keeps his powder dry. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:04:06 PM EDT
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I've wondered why a loaded gun hitting the deck is a DQ under IPSC/USPSA rules and the best reason I can come up with is that since people have a tendency to grab falling objects, they want people to be sure holsters and other retention devices securely hold the firearm to prevent the falling and the possibility of an accident. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:13:12 PM EDT
Damn.
Guns and knives - LET THEM FALL |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:14:40 PM EDT
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Did he take it to the body, or to the face? Would armor have even been a factor here? ....I always visualize myself taking one to the face, so letting the gun fall is easy for me. I always visualize myself not getting shot, btw. Different strokes. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:18:32 PM EDT
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I've wondered why a loaded gun hitting the deck is a DQ under IPSC/USPSA rules and the best reason I can come up with is that since people have a tendency to grab falling objects, they want people to be sure holsters and other retention devices securely hold the firearm to prevent the falling and the possibility of an accident. Over here we have the UKPSA, a bigger bunch of cretins you'd never wish to meet They keep spouting on about their "Safety Course" and the Canadian Black Badge and how they're 'trained' and safer and better than the rest of us Yet at every match there's a DQ for a muzzle sweep, dropping a gun etc....and now this |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:19:54 PM EDT
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I never cared for the way IDPA allows pretty much any trigger weight. Just asking for problems. not to mention, who the Hell runs an issue/duty/home-defense gun with a 2# trigger? |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:20:14 PM EDT
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True! But more people believe the Hollywood version.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBIrQV9PxHgQuote HistoryQuoted:
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This is why if guns/knifes fall you let them fall and don't try to grab them on the way down. Sad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBIrQV9PxHg
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:26:08 PM EDT
Very sad for his family and the IPSC community there.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:30:25 PM EDT
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Man, that sucks. It's just one of those things where you're so conditioned to try to catch things that you drop, very hard habit to break. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:32:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:40:35 PM EDT
After years of operating and using all sorts of sharp and dangerous utensils, if something is going for the ground, put your hands up and step back.
I dropped a very nice stainless steel 1911 on the concrete doing holster drills in high heat and with sweaty hands. Once it's out of my hands, it's going down. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:44:00 PM EDT
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they were all wearing soft armor. I thought that was pretty smart. I wish that it was done state side We'd be dropping like flies from heat stroke. |
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