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Posted: 9/5/2008 5:19:47 AM EDT
SUCKS. It sucks the fucking suck. It sucks anything that can be sucked. It sucks everything from doggies dodo to a dingo's dingle berries. It sucks watermelons through a garden hose faster than Jenna Jameson. It sucks 2000 times worse than ME.

Micro-soft is the Devil and Bill Gates is the spawn of Satan.

Now somebody get me a beer and a smoke.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:21:41 AM EDT
7.3/10
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:21:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By THEBAUMER:
SUCKS. It sucks the fucking suck. It sucks anything that can be sucked. It sucks everything from doggies dodo to a dingo's dingle berries. It sucks watermelons through a garden hose faster than Jenna Jameson. It sucks 2000 times worse than ME.

Micro-soft is the Devil and Bill Gates is the spawn of Satan.

Now somebody get me a beer and a smoke.


While it does have some teething problems, it's about the same as the XP launch...
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:22:49 AM EDT
I have Vista 64 and have no issues.  What are you doing wrong?
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:23:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2008 5:23:39 AM EDT by skygod]
Lemme guess, you're running it with minimum hardware?

ETA: I also have Vista 64, and its great.

Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:25:02 AM EDT
Old hardware + old programs = NO GO for Vista
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:26:09 AM EDT
Try to make a long story short....my harddrive was crashing on me and my recovery discs didn't get burned right so I had to buy a new harddrive and operating system.  Rather than buy something that won't be supported soon I opted for Vista.  Not disappointed in the least bit.  Runs great, and infact I think it runs better than XP.  Love the sidebar gadgets....that shit rocks!  

I have heard that you have to have a higher speed machine to run Vista and with at least 2 gigs of RAM.  
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:27:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2008 5:28:07 AM EDT by evo462]

Originally Posted By metalsaber:
I have Vista 64 and have no issues.  What are you doing wrong?


PEBKAC.

Most people that complain about Vista are laughable.  I've been using it for over a year both at home and work with ZERO issues.

Pretty much any environmental variable that "annoys" you or you don't like can be changed or disabled.

Most of the complaints about Vista come from people who are unable to adapt to change or try to run Vista on a turd of a computer.


This pretty much sums it up...
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:29:32 AM EDT
Windows 9x, Windows NT, Windows ME, Windows XP....

Whatever.  Everyone bitches about every release but everybody uses it.   Bill Gates won.

Buy more memory.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:36:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:41:17 AM EDT
Lacks evidenece of suckage.
Lacks form.
Lacks pure rage.

Style is certainly there, so I'll give it:

7.8/10
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:43:40 AM EDT
Let me guess, you can't find the start button? It's round these days...
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:44:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2008 5:56:22 AM EDT by ZekeMenuar]

Originally Posted By THEBAUMER:
SUCKS. It sucks the fucking suck. It sucks anything that can be sucked. It sucks everything from doggies dodo to a dingo's dingle berries. It sucks watermelons through a garden hose faster than Jenna Jameson. It sucks 2000 times worse than ME.

Micro-soft is the Devil and Bill Gates is the spawn of Satan.

Now somebody get me a beer and a smoke.


This rant has been done before.  Yawn.  More profanity is needed and a pic of bullet holes in your Vista disc would get you a couple more points.

5/10

That being said, I dual boot XP and Vista on this computer.  Vista can be made to work if you have enough RAM and CPU.  Disabling Aero is mandatory.

I run XP most of the time.  Vista hangs when opening apps.  Takes forever to get settled during startup.  I ran Vista exclusively for six months.  It just seemed like having a Ferrari with a lawnmower engine.  Looks good but has no power under the hood.

XP is ready to go the minute the desktop comes up.  Doesn't hang and seems to just run faster.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:53:35 AM EDT
The OP needs to either drink the M$ kool-aid or install Linux.

Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:56:00 AM EDT
I concur with the OP after spending a few hours fixing a botched Vista SP1 update-ended up having to delete files in a friggin' ACCESSORY program to get it to boot.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:56:01 AM EDT
There is a steep learning curve....and some older programs won't work with Vista..

However, once you learn it you'll love it.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:57:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BlackDog714:

While it does have some teething problems, it's about the same as the XP launch...


Teething problems? It's been out for almost two years.

I'll never understand how so many Americans just accept MS shit.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 5:58:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By metalsaber:
I have Vista 64 and have no issues.  What are you doing wrong?


I'm with you. Once I learned how to turn off the freaking Nannyware crap that comes in default ON mode, I have found Vista to be the same as XP.
Course, I am not a computer dude and do not push the machine much.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:03:05 AM EDT
I don't think Vista sucks if the computer has the resources to run it.  I do think there are a variety of features that make me say "WTF were they thinking?"  

Why is it difficult to get to the freakin' power off button?  Why isn't there an icon for My Computer?  (I know you can change these, but how many people don't.)

Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:04:04 AM EDT
QQ L2Vista!


Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:08:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mazeman:

Originally Posted By BlackDog714:

While it does have some teething problems, it's about the same as the XP launch...


Teething problems? It's been out for almost two years.

I'll never understand how so many Americans just accept MS shit.


Because there is nothing wrong with it...
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:12:55 AM EDT
I've been running it on two machines for a while.  No problems at all.  Good luck to ya.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:13:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fiend:

Originally Posted By Mazeman:

Originally Posted By BlackDog714:

While it does have some teething problems, it's about the same as the XP launch...


Teething problems? It's been out for almost two years.

I'll never understand how so many Americans just accept MS shit.


Because there is nothing wrong with it...

Except it's a bloated piece of shit. I was stuck with that epic pile of crap for 6 months at work until I commandeered an XP machine out of sheer frustration.

- Oh, you want to run this, sorry, no can do.
- Oh, now I'm shutting down IE7 and throwing this bigass dialog box in your face that you can't dismiss, eat that m-f!
- Oh, now I'm shutting down your Visual Studio 2008, your stuff that wasn't saved is lost in space. If you wonder why, it's because I can!

Vista is this decades Windows ME.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:14:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fiend:

Originally Posted By Mazeman:

Originally Posted By BlackDog714:

While it does have some teething problems, it's about the same as the XP launch...


Teething problems? It's been out for almost two years.

I'll never understand how so many Americans just accept MS shit.


Because there is nothing wrong with it...


Oh.

That explains all these similar threads.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:16:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mazeman:

Originally Posted By BlackDog714:

While it does have some teething problems, it's about the same as the XP launch...


Teething problems? It's been out for almost two years.

I'll never understand how so many Americans just accept MS shit.


And what are you?  Euro-trash?  
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:18:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2008 6:20:44 AM EDT by evo462]

Originally Posted By pagansmurfen:
- Oh, you want to run this, sorry, no can do.
- Oh, now I'm shutting down IE7 and throwing this bigass dialog box in your face that you can't dismiss, eat that m-f!
- Oh, now I'm shutting down your Visual Studio 2008, your stuff that wasn't saved is lost in space. If you wonder why, it's because I can!

Vista is this decades Windows ME.


You know, if you spent 30 seconds on a google search or asked the wise minds of arfcom, you could figure out how to disable that in about 3 clicks.

But yeah buddy, VISTA IS TEH SUXOR!!!!

Those "do you want to do _________" popups are protection for all the dumb shits out there that click "yes" on any window that pops up and end up installing viruses and spyware on their PC because they're too damned stupid to know the difference between a legitimate program and CoolWebSearch.

People complained because XP wasn't secure enough, so MS added some security features, and now they bitch about it.

The same complaints were said about XP, believe me - I remember it.  OMG it's slow!!!! OMG I can't find my old icons!!!  OMG!!!  It's bloated!!!

Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:20:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:22:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By evo462:

Originally Posted By metalsaber:
I have Vista 64 and have no issues.  What are you doing wrong?


PEBKAC.

Most people that complain about Vista are laughable.  I've been using it for over a year both at home and work with ZERO issues.

Pretty much any environmental variable that "annoys" you or you don't like can be changed or disabled.

Most of the complaints about Vista come from people who are unable to adapt to change or try to run Vista on a turd of a computer.


This pretty much sums it up...


Yup.  There's nothing wrong with Vista.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:22:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:24:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Paul:

Originally Posted By Possum-Sandwich:
Why isn't there an icon for My Computer?  (I know you can change these, but how many people don't.)



Upper left-hand corner just above the recycle bin, network, and the Paul folder (my documents) on my desktop.


That or you could just click on the start button, and click "my computer".

This is fun.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:25:50 AM EDT
Works fine for me.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:26:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pagansmurfen:
Except it's a bloated piece of shit. I was stuck with that epic pile of crap for 6 months at work until I commandeered an XP machine out of sheer frustration.

- Oh, you want to run this, sorry, no can do.
- Oh, now I'm shutting down IE7 and throwing this bigass dialog box in your face that you can't dismiss, eat that m-f!
- Oh, now I'm shutting down your Visual Studio 2008, your stuff that wasn't saved is lost in space. If you wonder why, it's because I can!

Vista is this decades Windows ME.


Ok, I'm sorry, but these complaints are laughable.  I can already see it now... If Vista didn't have the dialogue box asking for confirmation of IE shutdown, people would be complaining that "Vista sucks, I accidentally closed IE and I had 7 unread tabs open."
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:31:32 AM EDT
Only thing that pissed me off was the damn UAC. Then I found out how to turn that off

No problems here.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:31:53 AM EDT
Vista is designed to sell hardware which in turns sells more software through the Dells and Gateways of the world.  I run Vista on my laptop (and I do not love it), XP on one of my desktop (and I do not hate it), and I also have an iMac which performs better than both for the hardware it is running on.  Of course, Apple has issues all its own and it costs too much.  I can dual boot to Linux as well, but never do.  Anything unix like I need to do I can pretty much cover on the mac.  If I want unix for a day to day OS I'd use Solaris anyway.  
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:42:51 AM EDT
I bitched and complained when winME came out and stayed with the good stuff (win98) for a while. it only stands to reason that I will enjoy my XP until it's unsupported and vista's compatibilities/price comes down. I run Vista on a rig that has much better hardware than this one, but XP runs much better with less.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:44:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By captaincha0s:
but XP runs much better with less.


Just like 2000 ran better with much less.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:46:11 AM EDT
Fuck it, I'm foing back to the store, return this nightmare and buy a MAC.

And YES, I turned off all that bullshit that's nothing more than a ram hog. And the security on this version will not allow me open a new tab in IE7. It opens up a new fucking window. And every time I try to go to the next page here and on other boards it opens up in a new page.

Hardware can't handle it?...120 gig hd 3 gig ram dual core processor.

Dude did I fuck up and buy a Dell?
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:51:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By THEBAUMER:
Dude did I fuck up and buy a Dell?


I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the hardware and software probably isn't the issue.  
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:53:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Avenger069:
7.3/10


2/10.
Completely unoriginal.
Ground already covered repeatedly.

Rants should be innovative, if nothing else.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:55:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By evo462:

Originally Posted By captaincha0s:
but XP runs much better with less.


Just like 2000 ran better with much less.

yes but unstable as hell and with very little driver support.
just when one OS starts to work smoothly and most of the kinks get worked out, they drop another turd on you. in a year or two Vista will be my primary OS.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:56:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By evo462:

Originally Posted By THEBAUMER:
Dude did I fuck up and buy a Dell?


I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the hardware and software probably isn't the issue.  


yup!
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:56:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By THEBAUMER:
Fuck it, I'm foing back to the store, return this nightmare and buy a MAC.

And YES, I turned off all that bullshit that's nothing more than a ram hog. And the security on this version will not allow me open a new tab in IE7. It opens up a new fucking window. And every time I try to go to the next page here and on other boards it opens up in a new page.

Hardware can't handle it?...120 gig hd 3 gig ram dual core processor.

Dude did I fuck up and buy a Dell?


Pick up a copy of XP, install over Vista.

Problem solved
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:56:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By THEBAUMER:
SUCKS. It sucks the fucking suck. It sucks anything that can be sucked. It sucks everything from doggies dodo to a dingo's dingle berries. It sucks watermelons through a garden hose faster than Jenna Jameson. It sucks 2000 times worse than ME.

Micro-soft is the Devil and Bill Gates is the spawn of Satan.

Now somebody get me a beer and a smoke.


Maybe you should upgrade your Pentium III to something more modern and then give it a go.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 6:58:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By THEBAUMER:
Fuck it, I'm foing back to the store, return this nightmare and buy a MAC.

And YES, I turned off all that bullshit that's nothing more than a ram hog. And the security on this version will not allow me open a new tab in IE7. It opens up a new fucking window. And every time I try to go to the next page here and on other boards it opens up in a new page.

Hardware can't handle it?...120 gig hd 3 gig ram dual core processor.

Dude did I fuck up and buy a Dell?


Sounds like you just don't want to learn anything new.

Good luck with the Mac there scooter.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 7:01:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By Avenger069:
7.3/10


2/10.
Completely unoriginal.
Ground already covered repeatedly.

Rants should be innovative, if nothing else.


I gave bonus points for a porn star reference and this gem "doggies dodo".  A confusing extinct bird comment...you don't see that much.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 7:02:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By metalsaber:
I have Vista 64 and have no issues.  What are you doing wrong?
...Same here!! and no beer and smokes till you get out of Jr High
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 7:02:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By THEBAUMER:
Fuck it, I'm foing back to the store, return this nightmare and buy a MAC.

And YES, I turned off all that bullshit that's nothing more than a ram hog. And the security on this version will not allow me open a new tab in IE7. It opens up a new fucking window. And every time I try to go to the next page here and on other boards it opens up in a new page.

Hardware can't handle it?...120 gig hd 3 gig ram dual core processor.

Dude did I fuck up and buy a Dell?



RAM hog?   I'm on a MacBook right now, with 4GB memory.  I have seen it get down to less than 12MB (yes twelve megabytes) of free memory, and it runs fine.

People that bitch that Vista uses a lot of RAM don't understand how it works.  When you load a bunch of programs, they occupy RAM to function.  When you close them, you EXPECT that RAM will be wiped clean and will be available.  But many OSs today do not just simply wipe that RAM clean - they leave it so that if you open the applications again, guess what, they're ALREADY in RAM!  BAM!   However, if that RAM is needed, it will be overwritten as needed.

THUS seeing a lot of RAM being 'used' is not necessarily a bad thing.  
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 7:06:17 AM EDT
Works great for me but I have 4gb of ram and disabled all the security stuff and a bunch of services.

The only thing I don't like is how there is no "up" button in the vista file explorer.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 7:07:20 AM EDT
I run it with 2 GB RAM and an Intel Q6600 and have never experienced even a slightest hit in performance.  Eats anything I throw at it.  I can play Half Life 2, while burning a CD, have photoshop open, and 5 other apps and it runs fine.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 7:10:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:

Originally Posted By THEBAUMER:
Fuck it, I'm foing back to the store, return this nightmare and buy a MAC.

And YES, I turned off all that bullshit that's nothing more than a ram hog. And the security on this version will not allow me open a new tab in IE7. It opens up a new fucking window. And every time I try to go to the next page here and on other boards it opens up in a new page.

Hardware can't handle it?...120 gig hd 3 gig ram dual core processor.

Dude did I fuck up and buy a Dell?



RAM hog?   I'm on a MacBook right now, with 4GB memory.  I have seen it get down to less than 12MB (yes twelve megabytes) of free memory, and it runs fine.

People that bitch that Vista uses a lot of RAM don't understand how it works.  When you load a bunch of programs, they occupy RAM to function.  When you close them, you EXPECT that RAM will be wiped clean and will be available.  But many OSs today do not just simply wipe that RAM clean - they leave it so that if you open the applications again, guess what, they're ALREADY in RAM!  BAM!   However, if that RAM is needed, it will be overwritten as needed.

THUS seeing a lot of RAM being 'used' is not necessarily a bad thing.  


Explaining this to people is like trying to explain to a Democrat why Universal Healthcare is a bad idea. Don't bother. Let him go buy his Mac and see the same thing in action; memory prefetching.
Link Posted: 9/5/2008 7:10:37 AM EDT
It just takes some getting used too.
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