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Posted: 8/11/2011 2:38:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 2:47:38 PM EDT
Thanks.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 2:54:18 PM EDT
Always interesting
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 2:57:27 PM EDT
hm. what a waste.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 3:00:28 PM EDT
Brutal
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 3:14:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 3:44:11 PM EDT
Brutal


War is hell.

It would be interesting to know what the signs read on the corpses hanging at the 2:19 mark, and I'm still trying to make sense of the pic at 5:52.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 3:44:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chaingun:
Always interesting


Link Posted: 8/11/2011 4:44:30 PM EDT
My great uncle commanded an infantry division on the Eastern front. After the Sixth Army surrendered, he was interrogated by the NKVD. After four days, he signed a confession and spent the next 14 years in Siberia. He was eventually repatriated to West Germany. There have been some interesting observations of history in our family.

Link Posted: 8/11/2011 6:59:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2011 7:00:13 PM EDT by Seabee_Mech]
Not many POWs from the Sixth Army made it out of Russia. Out of the 90,000 + who surrendered less than 6k made it back to Germany.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 7:08:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2011 7:11:36 PM EDT by twestbrook10]
Wow those photographs are eye-opening. War is hell.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 7:13:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2011 7:13:36 PM EDT by rockstar4960]

cool

Link Posted: 8/11/2011 7:23:13 PM EDT
Ghosts. Most, if not all, those men died.

A lot of suffering.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 7:35:51 PM EDT
According to the section of the German Red Cross dealing with tracing the captives, the ultimate fate of 1,300,000 German POW's in Allied custody is still unknown; they are still officially listed as missing.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 7:45:15 PM EDT
The pix at 0:56 brought goose bumps. My wife's grandmother was put on a west bound train out of Minsk since she was Jewish. She was never heard from again.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 7:47:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bdcochran01:
According to the section of the German Red Cross dealing with tracing the captives, the ultimate fate of 1,300,000 German POW's in Allied custody is still unknown; they are still officially listed as missing.
What % of that was captured by the Russians? Remember seeing a pix of some Russians holding down German prisoners and doing their usual wooden mallet hammering a bullet into the head execution on them.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 7:51:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wganz:
Originally Posted By bdcochran01:
According to the section of the German Red Cross dealing with tracing the captives, the ultimate fate of 1,300,000 German POW's in Allied custody is still unknown; they are still officially listed as missing.
What % of that was captured by the Russians? Remember seeing a pix of some Russians holding down German prisoners and doing their usual wooden mallet hammering a bullet into the head execution on them.


Holy fucking shit, I've never heard of that.



Do you have a link?
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 7:51:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NoMoAMMO:
Brutal


that is what came to mind.

I have heard many stories from my grandfather when I visited him over the summer each year - he lived in Bavaria.

I am sure glad I was not around and had to be in this war.

Link Posted: 8/11/2011 7:57:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2011 8:02:26 PM EDT by -Crusade-]
http://nobeliefs.com/mementoes/buckle.jpeg
I don't think so.

My Grandfather was in WWII. We always talk about the war when we are together. Our last convo realliy hit me and I felt the reality of the war, he said god bless Hitler right in front of me. He's still alive and well at 90 years of age.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 8:00:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rodent:
My great uncle commanded an infantry division on the Eastern front. After the Sixth Army surrendered, he was interrogated by the NKVD. After four days, he signed a confession and spent the next 14 years in Siberia. He was eventually repatriated to West Germany. There have been some interesting observations of history in our family.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c116/Oblio13/images-1.jpg

Wow that's interesting and thanks for sharing.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 8:06:09 PM EDT
My uncle was killed in Poland. A mortar round took off most of his shoulder. We still have the letter from the field doctor to my grandfather who was also a physician. The end, loosely translated went something like "please take comfort your son died defending the Fatherland from the grey wave of Bolshevism from the East. Heil Hitler."

It was winter, they couldn't even bury them in the ground. They were mound graves.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:53:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Sleepy1988:
Originally Posted By wganz:
Originally Posted By bdcochran01:
According to the section of the German Red Cross dealing with tracing the captives, the ultimate fate of 1,300,000 German POW's in Allied custody is still unknown; they are still officially listed as missing.
What % of that was captured by the Russians? Remember seeing a pix of some Russians holding down German prisoners and doing their usual wooden mallet hammering a bullet into the head execution on them.
Holy fucking shit, I've never heard of that.



Do you have a link?
When I was in high school, the PC much less the interwebz wasn't invented yet.
It was in a Time magazine book on WWII that was in the school library.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:57:55 AM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 6:00:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Jason280:
Brutal


War is hell.

It would be interesting to know what the signs read on the corpses hanging at the 2:19 mark, and I'm still trying to make sense of the pic at 5:52.

If I remember right, it basically condemned them for working/sympathyzing with the Germans.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 7:29:55 AM EDT
Pictures like those are one reason why I dread the day of another world war.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 7:39:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 7:48:23 AM EDT
Such a waste of life and resources. My Grandmother was right when she said the world changed for the worse from WWII.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 9:37:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By helmutlent:
Thanks.


Link Posted: 8/12/2011 9:38:46 AM EDT
That was pretty cool. Thanks for the link.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 10:35:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By schizrade:
Such a waste of life and resources. My Grandmother was right when she said the world changed for the worse from WWII.


I've been mentally digesting that statement and I'm not convinced, yet. Consider WWI, the destruction and loss of life. Consider the wars before and since. War, destruction, famine, natural disaster, etc have been around for milenia. I just don't see WWII changing the fundamentals that much.
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