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Posted: 9/12/2001 6:40:15 PM EDT
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Yeh, I hope they mean it!!
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Posted: 9/12/2001 6:43:02 PM EDT
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[size=6][u]BOOM[/u][/size=6]
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Posted: 9/12/2001 6:45:58 PM EDT
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I heard on the radio, KFWB L.A. that all of the humanitarian-types and the UN are evacuating their people under emergency conditions. Something big is going to happen.
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Posted: 9/12/2001 6:48:53 PM EDT
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Sleep well, brave men and women with American Flags on there shoulders are somewhere in the world getting ready to unleash an old fashon can 'o' whoopass on those responsible.
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Posted: 9/12/2001 6:51:15 PM EDT
[#5]
Go baby Go
We got it Let's unleash it! |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 6:57:40 PM EDT
[#6]
Kick the tire and light the fires!
Geesh...I watch too many movies. |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 7:00:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2001 7:06:48 PM EDT
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[img]http://www.commspeed.net/jmurray/images/mushroom_cloud.gif[/img]
Nuke all of them,,,,, FIRE UP !!!!!!! Jay Arizona |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 7:10:22 PM EDT
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Aren't there still three Christian missionaries in jail in Afghanistan? Are they acceptable losses?
God Bless Texas |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 7:11:17 PM EDT
[#10]
The only thing worse than no response, would be to hit the wrong target. Let's be ceertain that we have targeted the proper actors. If so, light 'em up!
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Posted: 9/12/2001 7:20:28 PM EDT
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LOL... I know everyone's eager to drop a nuke... but what I meant was-- can anyone contribute any other [i]evidence[/i] that the US is planning a nuclear strike?
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Posted: 9/12/2001 7:26:33 PM EDT
[#12]
You think ThreatCon Delta means, break out the slingshots?
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Posted: 9/12/2001 7:31:30 PM EDT
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ThreatCon Delta in fact is the level of security being practiced. Now that I've said that....
NUKE EM TILL THEY GLOW AND USE THEIR BABIES FOR RUN WAY LIGHTS |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 7:42:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: You think ThreatCon Delta means, break out the slingshots? That's THREATCON Delta. It measures the possibility of an installation getting attacked. It is a maesure of the Threat. What you are thinking of is DEFCON which is how close we are to actual nuke conflict. The DEFCON status of the US would usually not be published. Aviator [img]www.dredgeearthfirst.com/aviator.gif[/img] |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 7:44:01 PM EDT
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i know defcon has been upgraded. i know someone who could tell me alot of mind blowing stuff, but im not gonna ask him.
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Posted: 9/12/2001 8:16:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: Aren't there still three Christian missionaries in jail in Afghanistan? Are they acceptable losses? God Bless Texas Well, fortunately, the people in this country who have their fingers on the nuclear triggers have a little more self control than the warriors on this board. |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 8:20:38 PM EDT
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> Well, fortunately, the people in this country who have their fingers on the nuclear triggers have a little more self control than the warriors on this board. > Yeah, I agree. There is NO way the US will use any kind of WMD (weapon of mass destruction) -- the MASS international support we are currently gaining would DISAPPEAR in a heartbeat if we dropped a nuke (even a tac nuke). Sorry to disappoint you but Nukes are reserved for MUCH more profound threats than this. - CD PS: Although I gotta admit that seeing the capital of a terrorist supporting nation a glowing hole has some visceral appeal. |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 8:35:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Yeah, I agree. There is NO way the US will use any kind of WMD (weapon of mass destruction) -- the MASS international support we are currently gaining would DISAPPEAR in a heartbeat if we dropped a nuke (even a tac nuke). Sorry to disappoint you but Nukes are reserved for MUCH more profound threats than this. - CD PS: Although I gotta admit that seeing the capital of a terrorist supporting nation a glowing hole has some visceral appeal. I think they should fly one of those EC135s near the border and broadcast pornographic movies and sounds over their television and radio waves 24X7, that should drive them nuts. |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 8:41:36 PM EDT
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I don't believe it's going to be nuclear. Was just listening to our (sadly) senator Harry Reid (Dem) from Nevada who is Majority Whip. He was in a long meeting today with pres and all. He was confident of a big stick being used, but said nuclear was not necessary. He said we had a lot of neat little toys in our inventory that do things like "suck the air out of your lungs, implode your eardrums, things like that".
I was getting worried there for a while tonight that we'd be waiting and waiting for our retribution, but it sounds like something is in the works ... they just aren't talking about it. |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 9:00:12 PM EDT
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Ya I think Fuel-Air Explosives would be much more likely used, especially if we want to get the terrorists and not just a bunch of buildings. These things are pretty mean in and of themselves. Probably the next worst thing to a weapon of mass destruction.
Personally, I think the best way to deter islamic terrorists from future actions is to capture the ones responsible for this, and brainwash and deprogram them to reject Islam. Then parade them out on TV to have them denounce their religion and their people. What this would mean to the average islamic terrorist then is, that if they attack America and are caught, they are going to hell when they die. Pretty good form of deterrence if you ask me. Naturally there is some basic human rights issues with this form of punishment. |
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Posted: 9/12/2001 9:01:05 PM EDT
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Bush has a set that drag the ground. I hope(fear) that he will use nukes. Get ready people; it has just begain. There are somwhere between 6-7 million of them in the country now. Does anybody believe they all have converted true blue? I say if they believe they have 7 virgins waiting for them in heaven; let's make sure they get wish! God be with us.
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Posted: 9/12/2001 9:07:40 PM EDT
[#22]
nukes would be a very bad idea
we need to punish these bastards, not irradiate part of the planet |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 1:21:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: Sorry to disappoint you but Nukes are reserved for MUCH more profound threats than this. - CD 20-30,000 dead, will likely go MUCH higher Heart of nation's financial center destroyed. Military Headquarters damaged with intent to destroy Proven intent to kill National Leader -What would be "profound enough" beyond this?[>:/] Teheran Bagdad Kabul These "people" understand only understand violent instant death. KILL THEM ALL |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 1:38:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2001 1:50:13 AM EDT
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Ya lets go nuke the capitals of 3 middle eastern countries. Did you ever think that fallout doesn't stay within political borders?
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Posted: 9/13/2001 3:29:29 AM EDT
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A couple nukes on Japan did not poison the planet and a few on the dirty diaper heads won't either. Erradication of filth is always a good thing! It is impossible to hit the wrong target as all islam has made themselves one. Should those already here try to rise up they will bring death upon the decent ones who want to be part of this country. The decent ones had better prevent that, and I don't mean by whining about discrimination.
This a war. Be very cautios about what you say lest someone think you a traitor! The payback for this must be so horrible that it is beyond both our and their belief. Anything less only encourages more of the same. |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 3:29:38 AM EDT
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Agreed - no to nukes for just one reaseon - MY CHILDREN have to live on this planet - let's not screw it up any more than we already have. FAE and other conventional stuff can do the job.
They plump when you cook 'em...... Tate |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 3:35:51 AM EDT
[#28]
One indication that the once unthinkable is now thinkable: The White House is looking into the legality of referencing the amount of jet fuel used in the attack as a "weapon of mass destruction." You know what our stand has always been as far as what our response would be should "weapons of mass destruction" be used against us.
That is, that we would retaliate with nuclear weapons. I don't relish the idea, but that's what they're there for. Semper Fi! Ken Little |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 3:43:34 AM EDT
[#29]
Since the suspension of nuclear testing we have been unable to physically test our weapons for degredation. I propose the Western Asia Nuclear proving grounds. Don't sweat the fallout. Just like the drops on Japan, a total destruction of our target would save more lives in the long run and establish peace for at least a decade. Planerench out.
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Posted: 9/13/2001 4:31:48 AM EDT
[#30]
Give it up guys. As much as we would like to turn "them" into glowing nightlights, you're not going to see any nuclear attacks. Those are saved for the big game when our nuts are in a vise.
We have the military sophistication in place to surgically remove our opponents at our will. The stumbling block at the moment is indentifying the enemy. Wait to soild intel comes in and then watch us kick ass. |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 4:43:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: We have the military sophistication in place to surgically remove our opponents at our will. The stumbling block at the moment is indentifying the enemy. Wait to soild intel comes in and then watch us kick ass. I know you're right, but waiting is so damned hard when you want revenge. 'Sides, what % of the general public are letting their anger subside more every day? I fear that every day that goes by, support for the kind of fire we'd like to see (AR15.com) waivers more & more. I hope I'm wrong...... |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 5:11:36 AM EDT
[#32]
I am wondering... Has Bush stated that this was an attack with weapons of mass destruction? If so, I think that it is US policy that any attack that includes the use of weapons of mass destruction will be met with our use of weapons of mass destruction (read nuclear devices).
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Posted: 9/13/2001 5:29:08 AM EDT
[#33]
Actually, a few airbursts would not result in much fallout, it's ground bursts that are dirty. And unless you are hitting hardned missle silos or such, airbursts are more efficient.
We exploded hundreds of nuclear weapons in the 40's, 50', and 60's, as did the Soviets, and we are still breathing. 4-5 more isn't going to hurt anything away from ground zero. Heck, India and Pakistan just let two off within the last 2 years. |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 5:45:13 AM EDT
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The terrorists do'nt think we have the "stomach" for a war with them. I think we should nuke them. It's not the first time we used them and it should'nt be the last. I hope we have the same values and guts "The Great Generation" had. We need not loss more of our soldiers fighting a "Holy war" with terrorists. It's the only message they will understand.
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Posted: 9/13/2001 5:58:12 AM EDT
[#35]
Hey, a little cesium-137 on your corn flakes in the morning will do a body good.
Start blasting: [url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/mapablast.html[/url] P.S. Try to spare NYC for the moment. There's enough crap in the air right now. |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 5:58:18 AM EDT
[#36]
Well they just mad the statement that all Americans are calling for war. And if this means loss of life on both sides to obtain that they are in acceptance of it.[frag]
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Posted: 9/13/2001 5:59:38 AM EDT
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Well they just mad the statement that all Americans are calling for war. And if this means loss of life on both sides to obtain that they are in acceptance of it.[frag]
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Posted: 9/13/2001 6:01:50 AM EDT
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No nukes. That will give other countries what they think is license to use them themselves and we don't need that, i.e we nuke Iraq, Pakistan sees a green light and nukes India. We have enough conventional toys to accomplish any objective in this case.
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Posted: 9/13/2001 6:01:53 AM EDT
[#39]
A Nuclear attack won't be necessary. We can take care of this with conventional forces..
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Posted: 9/13/2001 6:09:19 AM EDT
[#40]
Teheran, Iran
25 Megaton Air Blast, 17,500 feet AGL 6.5 mile radius "Ninety-eight percent of the population within this area are dead." Singing my kind of song...[}:D] |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 6:16:58 AM EDT
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Post from GodBlessTexas -
Aren't there still three Christian missionaries in jail in Afghanistan? Are they acceptable losses? I know, but their throats will be cut anyway in the event of ANY type of military reaction by the United States! God will preserve them in the Way that He preserves [u]all[/u] who are His. Post from Imbroglio - Did you ever think that fallout doesn't stay within political borders? Now [b]THAT's[/b] something Afghanistan and its neighbors should be thinking about! Don't you agree? Eric The(NotNuclear,NotYet,Anyway)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 6:27:25 AM EDT
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20-30,000 dead, will likely go MUCH higher Heart of nation's financial center destroyed. Military Headquarters damaged with intent to destroy Proven intent to kill National Leader -What would be "profound enough" beyond this? It could (and very well might) get worse. An attack with nuclear or chemical weapons could kill thirty times as many people and turn NYC or DC into a ghost town. Beyond that, the technology to create a "doomsday bug" biological weapon isn't far away. |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 6:55:30 AM EDT
[#43]
Nukes would provoke China, and THAT's the true sleeping giant!
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Posted: 9/13/2001 7:07:36 AM EDT
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Not too mention Pakistan, what do you think their reaction would be if fallout hit their soil.
You cannot start to compare the A-bomb of 1945 vintage to the nuclear weapons in the modern arsenal. Retaliation is best done with a massive convential strike, swift precise and deadly. |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 7:15:20 AM EDT
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I'm not sure a massive air strike or a conventional bombing would really strike at the [b]hearts[/b] of our aggressors.
The reason WWII ended was because of the sheer terror and fear a nuclear bomb created. The Japanese were highly nationalist and ready to die for their leader at any cost. (Japan was being firebombed for months but to no avail). A nuclear attack was the only was to put an end to that. Is this the same case here? |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 7:22:52 AM EDT
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We tested nukes above ground in Nevada till the 1960's...where did that fallout go? Right here, to the farms and towns in the U.S. What's 5 or 6 in Afghanistan?
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Posted: 9/13/2001 7:28:35 AM EDT
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If you hit the center of power in a COUNTRY you're at war with, the effects are there. Like the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But here you are fighting people that seek harbour in countries that condone and support international terrorism(libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and others I may have forgotten).
So let's just say you drop a nuclear weapon on Kabul, on the westbank or in some training camp in tripoli another nut stands up to retaliate. Nukes worked fine in the days of the cold war when the free world faced only the communist bear. These days we face international terrorism, which is a multiheaded dragon in a snakepit of rogue nations. Kuiper |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 7:35:27 AM EDT
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FWIW: I'm quite sure ([i]and hopeful[/i]) that the multitudes of Mercs out there have already embarked on a little journey across the pond...
The international bounties are building on Bin Laden, and these guys would love nothing more than to cash in! |
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Posted: 9/13/2001 7:39:16 AM EDT
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Major cities were only a few hundred miles downwind from our above ground tests in the Nevada. We're still here. Now we're 10 or 12 thousand miles away. We tested the "BIG" ones in the western pacific. One in Bagdad? One in Theran,(spelling)Iran? One in Damascus? Will just be the normal fallout levels as when I was in grade school.
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Posted: 9/13/2001 7:42:17 AM EDT
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[center][size=6]Think Neutron![/size=6][/center]
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