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Posted: 11/19/2008 12:02:54 PM EDT
by John Ross

Who's read it?

Hessian-1
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:04:53 PM EDT
I have.  Twice.

It should be required reading.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:06:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2008 3:43:29 PM EDT by flatfender]
Reading it right now. Currently around somewhere around page 200 / Summer of 1968.


Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:07:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:08:28 PM EDT
I read it twice and try and make all my friends read it   it makes great christmas gift
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:08:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:09:04 PM EDT
I have read it.

Excellent book.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:09:13 PM EDT
I started reading it and got to page 90.  I must get back to it.

I'm re-reading Enemies Foreign and Domestic right now.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:13:01 PM EDT
I did.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:13:09 PM EDT
I have read it twice too.

Definitely a good read for someone in the gun culture.  I couldnt put it down.

LB
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:14:06 PM EDT
Read it several times.

Given several copies as gifts. Loaned out my personal copies Lord knows how many times.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:21:09 PM EDT
Have read it 5+ times and given it as gifts.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:22:36 PM EDT
read it

premise is interesting


not the best written work out there but decent
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:29:50 PM EDT
Read it, though at times it was more like work than enjoyment.



Passed it on to another Arfcommer to work on, now.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:29:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2008 12:30:04 PM EDT by vanilla_gorilla]


Double tap

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:30:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:33:03 PM EDT
I ordered it when it first came out years ago. Sadly, the delivery boat sank en route to my home and I never received it....

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:34:31 PM EDT
It should be about 200 pages less than it is. Some of the sexually graphic stuff didn't need to be in there, either.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:35:22 PM EDT
currently on page 223 of my 4th reading
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:35:30 PM EDT
I liked the beginning more than the end, but its a great book. Definitely on the Arfcom must-read list.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:37:44 PM EDT
My first primer on the history of gun laws and control in the US.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:40:15 PM EDT
An 800 page dime store paperback with two dimensional characters and a juvenile writing style.
Definitely not the Pulitzer prize winner most here will make it out to be.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:40:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2008 12:42:16 PM EDT by One_Slayer]
Loved the book. I wish they would make a movie. I need to buy some copies for some of my friends as I never lend my personal owned books.



I had John sign it at Knob Creek
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:46:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:46:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
An 800 page dime store paperback with two dimensional characters and a juvenile writing style.
Definitely not the Pulitzer prize winner most here will make it out to be.


Kind of.  And the sex stuff was  

Although I'd still recommend it to a gun enthusiast.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 12:47:09 PM EDT
I was going to buy this book a little while back, but it was out of stock everywhere I looked except Amazon, where it was outrageously expensive.  What's the story?  Out of print I assume?
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 1:00:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
An 800 page dime store paperback with two dimensional characters and a juvenile writing style.
Definitely not the Pulitzer prize winner most here will make it out to be.


haven't seen you around much lately.  I agree that it's not written well and the characters are stock.  But its real value lies in its history of infringements and the good description of interesting firearms.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 1:01:44 PM EDT
read it and passed it on.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 1:04:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BaxterStockman:
Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
An 800 page dime store paperback with two dimensional characters and a juvenile writing style.
Definitely not the Pulitzer prize winner most here will make it out to be.


haven't seen you around much lately.  I agree that it's not written well and the characters are stock.  But its real value lies in its history of infringements and the good description of interesting firearms.


Been working quite a bit.

Some of the history is creative, but it is told in an entertaining way, and he really does know how to write about guns.
As long as people take the book for what it is (entertainment) its a fine read.
Just don't make it more than what it is.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 1:05:56 PM EDT
What's reading?

Read it once.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 1:06:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Originally Posted By BaxterStockman:
Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
An 800 page dime store paperback with two dimensional characters and a juvenile writing style.
Definitely not the Pulitzer prize winner most here will make it out to be.


haven't seen you around much lately.  I agree that it's not written well and the characters are stock.  But its real value lies in its history of infringements and the good description of interesting firearms.


Been working quite a bit.

Some of the history is creative, but it is told in an entertaining way, and he really does know how to write about guns.
As long as people take the book for what it is (entertainment) its a fine read.
Just don't make it more than what it is.


Yep.  Hardly great literature, but a good read nonetheless.


Link Posted: 11/19/2008 1:06:59 PM EDT
Its not a book... its a blueprint.



Link Posted: 11/19/2008 1:07:54 PM EDT
I havent read it, but I plan on reading it and Enemies Foreign and Domestic soon as I find copies
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 1:15:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2008 1:16:40 PM EDT by djsmiles]



ETA- his description of the area in which he went to college was spot on.  i live near there.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 1:43:46 PM EDT
I've read it several times, and bought 7 extras ti give as gifts or to loan out. Good book.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 1:46:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Fulton1:
I was going to buy this book a little while back, but it was out of stock everywhere I looked except Amazon, where it was outrageously expensive.  What's the story?  Out of print I assume?


Doesn't get a lot of mainstream marketing.

Publisher has it for 29 bucks.

http://www.accuratepress.net/ross.html

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:08:45 PM EDT
Reading it for the second time. I will be lending out the hard copy quite a bit.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:12:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GunSlinger75:
I read it twice and try and make all my friends read it   it makes great christmas gift


+1
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:13:33 PM EDT
Great book
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:14:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
An 800 page dime store paperback with two dimensional characters and a juvenile writing style.
Definitely not the Pulitzer prize winner most here will make it out to be.


+1
redundantly redundant.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:16:22 PM EDT
And what, other than the obvious, would this book be about?
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:18:26 PM EDT
I almost read the whole thing in one sitting when it first came out.

Gun nuts generally love it, but I doubt anyone else would.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:19:11 PM EDT
Myself & the wife both read a copy a friend loaned us.

I had planned on buying a copy from John himself & having him autograph it at Knob Creek this fall but never did see him there.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:20:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2008 3:03:16 PM EDT by GySgtD]
Originally Posted By cyclone:
I havent read it, but I plan on reading it and Enemies Foreign and Domestic soon as I find copies



The second in his trilogy, Domestic Enemies, was a much better book.  IMHO/FWIW....

ETA>  Just noticed this..  The third book in the trilogy will be available in early '09

The link has exceprts from the new book.


Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:20:51 PM EDT
Yep.  Read it once.

If I ever find the time again I'll read it again.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:23:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BaxterStockman:
Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
An 800 page dime store paperback with two dimensional characters and a juvenile writing style.
Definitely not the Pulitzer prize winner most here will make it out to be.


haven't seen you around much lately.  I agree that it's not written well and the characters are stock.  But its real value lies in its history of infringements and the good description of interesting firearms.


This. You can hand that book to any firearms noob and have them walk away with a firm grasp of the history and impact of firearms laws, ATF, etc.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:30:51 PM EDT
multiple times. one of my all time favorites. Needs to be made into a movie.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:51:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2008 2:53:29 PM EDT by tommytrauma]
Originally Posted By 10mmFan:
And what, other than the obvious, would this book be about?



it's a novel centered around a protagonist raised in the gun culture in the '50s and '60s, who ends up taking a stand against the infringement of personal rights in present day. However, it also covers the experiences of a family friend who was involved in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, touches on Miller, touches on a great - uncle of the protagonist who wa a world war I vet and later involved in the Bonus march... it basically uses the protagonist / plot as a vehicle to describe the modern history of second amandment rights and infringement of personal liberties.

It's isn't a supurb piece of literature, and is rough around the edges. However, it's incredible in the scope of the subject and in the research involved. It's extremely thought provoking, and it slaps the reader in the face with the creeping infringements we haven't noticed much because of their incremental nature. As a first novel by an author, it's an excellent piece of work. I've seen a lot of folk complain about it's literary shortcomings, but none of them have ever provided a link to their own works for comparison.

Read it. It's worth the 30 bucks.




Link Posted: 11/19/2008 2:55:00 PM EDT
Henry Bowman in 2012!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 3:06:15 PM EDT
I loved it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 3:07:27 PM EDT
3 times.
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