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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:39:53 AM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:40:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ^ that's the truth, Americans often take our societal values for granted and assume the rest of humankind adheres to them. Dude. I watched a marine administer half a dozen anchor shots in Fallujah. On fucking NBC news. They were house clearing and in a hurry. "Our values" are very situational. I think you'll find that's the case everywhere. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:41:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there possible "war crimes" on an invading force??? I think it's an oxymoron. Defend by all means necessary. ALL MEANS. [BTW I am not an UkeBro, but I advocate for natural law] Go ask the Kia in Iraq and Chris Stevens while you are curious  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:41:42 AM EST
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fuck russia
They 10k slaughtered women and children in Bucha. if they want to not die, then fucking leave he got what he deserved. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:43:23 AM EST
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Are these YouTube videos the type that get get paid for clicks ?
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:43:48 AM EST
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They should paint “I surrender” on top of all of their bunkers.
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:44:01 AM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:44:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you invade another country and slaughter civilians, it usually doesn't turn out like a fucking children's story. This FUCK RUSSIA and its pussy soldiers. I hope they all bleed out crying for mom. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:44:08 AM EST
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I'm sure some here will love this, but it's a war crime. "Both Russia and Ukraine are Parties to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 1977 Additional Protocols. Accordingly, they are bound by those instruments, as well as the customary international law of armed conflict." But it's OK if Putin does it 1000X over. We get what you are doing. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:45:38 AM EST
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That’s not how you’re going to your nato membership
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:48:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't kill like that, but I also have not had a foreign army occupy my country. ...and blow your family to bits. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:48:44 AM EST
[#12]
It was all downhill after the Russians released the video of them cutting the guy’s c0ck and ba11s off…with a box cutter.
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:48:49 AM EST
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War, no rules except the ones on paper that each side bitches about the other side is not following.
Drones are the new snipers. Demoralizes the enemy because there is no such thing as ground cover anymore. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:50:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's silly. You can't surrender to a drone. Raising your hands while not leaving your position is different. Does "please don't drone me" count as surrendering, if you make no attempt to enter enemy custody? Is that surrendering, or merely pleading for them to change the rules of engagement now that the shoe is on the other foot? |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:51:09 AM EST
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Orcs killing other orcs
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:52:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here I am, responding to the ArfCommies. ArfCommies never met a Russian they wouldn't hastily trip and fall down to suck off. I don't care what the Ukrainians are doing, when Russians kill Ukrainian civilians in warcrime invasion, this is what you get. Guess who is under investigation for war crimes officially? Putin. He'll eventually get what's coming to him. +1 and fuck Russia. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:52:17 AM EST
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The pics of the little bodies they were pulling out of rubble is where my fucks ran out for fucking dead orcs.
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:54:33 AM EST
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It really sucks when you start a war, murder every human being, commit every war crime, and then get your silk panties in a wad when you get paid back. Life should really suck when you invade a nation and seek to wipe them out for the pure evil of killing. I pray Putin and his enabler minions get their due. War is hell and Putin deserves the hottest part of it.
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:55:29 AM EST
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LOL he did the jazz hands.
I feel bad for that guy but what is he doing out in the open with no long gun or side arm? He's on his back looking directly at a drone hovering at 12:00 if he had a side arm or long gun he could of blasted that drone back to china. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:55:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: UKR-Bois are gathering now for their IO offensive on this thread, of that you can be sure. Looks like they aligned on shouting "Russia bad russia bad" until this goes away Still funny how Ukraine constantly creates work for their own information operations support by letting shit like this get out. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:55:47 AM EST
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To all the "guys" whining about war crimes, laws, conventions in the face of an invading country:
So, if someone shot your wife in the face, then laid down their gun and surrendered, you would follow the law and wait for the police to hopefully show up and arrest them? You wouldn't be legally allowed to shoot them. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:55:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The pics of the little bodies they were pulling out of rubble is where my fucks ran out for fucking dead orcs. Which dead orcs? The Ukrainians or the Russians? Cause both groups are orcs. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:57:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither sides gives a damn about the rules of war.  Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) - Knife Fight Scene (1/5) | Movieclips |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:57:38 AM EST
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Let's consider this. It seems like the argument that this was wrong goes something like this: if you're about to be blown up, you put your hands up and act like you surrender. If you're not about to be blown up, you just carry on engaging in combat operations. So you're not a fair target if your hands are up? How does that work? I need to change my magazine: I put my hands up, and I'm off limits, then I can go back to fighting when I'm done. Is that it? Is that a serious position that GD wants to defend?
Where is that Tweet pointing out the impetus and purpose of Russian disinfo? |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:58:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where are all the Uk fan bois  I’m over here not giving a fuck. Invader in a foreign land tried getting an RC Toy to stop dropping grenades on him? Surrender is only feasible if it’s feasible. Yeah one guy surrendered to a drone once before and was led out to Ukrainians nearby. Maybe there weren’t any within walking distance. Maybe they didn’t want a Russian walking up to their concealed position. Maybe they couldn’t logistically. handle prisoners or ti would have slowed/stopped their advance. They aren’t obligated to take them. This isn’t a kids game where you throw your hands up and the other side HAS to stop shooting. So fuck’em. You don’t want to die, don’t invade foreign lands. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:59:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like they aligned on shouting "Russia bad russia bad" until this goes away Still funny how Ukraine constantly creates work for their own information operations support by letting shit like this get out. Let’s make a deal. I’ll keep apologizing for Ukraine as long as you keep apologizing for a pedophile |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:01:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Slav on Slav crime. Just another day in Yep both are Or*s doing Or* shit. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:02:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just saying the drone can't take you to a POW camp if you surrender. It's a war, you're either in the battle or you're not. Todays battle plan: Throw your hands up until the drone flies over, then get back to fighting. Whatever leadership they have there should be putting an end to this drone footage bullshit. You can’t surrender to most if any drones. It’s only possible if there are ground forces who can respond and accept/effect the surrender. Surrendering to a manned Apache is hardly any different as they couldn’t (didn’t) do anything but watch although there is one story of a large group (hundreds) of Iraqis who tried to surrender to a team of Apaches. The Apaches did nothing but report and observe…that is until someone hidden in/by the group decided to fire an RPG at one of the Apaches. So, Rules of Land Warfare, what can/can’t you do? And after facing the “you engaged a wounded soldier” thing several times, the definition of “wounded” means “no longer a threat” (i.e. no longer capable of fighting); not you almost got me, please don’t do that again, or I’m hurt, don’t hurt me some more, etc. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:02:40 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ukrainian Drone operator footage is russian disinfo Probably. Believe half you see and nothing you hear. It's narrated as such, but who is really who? |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:02:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really? What war crimes Germany did AFTER the Soviets crushed them?!?!? Actually, the result was total domination of Eastern Europe for half a century with little further local resistance. The infamous Commissar order, Einstatzgruppen, penning up Soviet POWs in the open and deliberately starving them, a policy of food theft that starved civilians in occupied Soviet territory that rivalled the Holodmor, rape and wholesale murder enraged the Soviet people and led to a drumbeat of official vengeance propaganda (see Ilya Ehrenburg). Soviet soldiers murdered and raped Germans in a frenzy of "vengeance" on German (and Polish and Hungarian) territory that was semi-condoned despite high level orders. 2 million rapes - some women gang raped 60+ times. Strafing refugee columns (a German act also). The Treuenbrietzen massacre and rapes. In 1974 the German government estimated 400,000 deaths due to Soviet vengeance in east Germany (millions had fled before the Red Army). Defeated, conquered, occupied and disarmed Germany was going to do what? The Germans started it. They got it back in spades. Neither side was a moral beacon of good guys, but the Germans started it with their Slavic untermenschenen endlosung liebrnsraum bullshit. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:02:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's silly. You can't surrender to a drone. You can quit the fight and run towards the enemy, because you don't want to die. But asking for mercy when there's no way to safely more you across those lines isn't surrender, it's regret. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
I'm sure some here will love this, but it's a war crime. "Both Russia and Ukraine are Parties to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 1977 Additional Protocols. Accordingly, they are bound by those instruments, as well as the customary international law of armed conflict." That's silly. You can't surrender to a drone. You can quit the fight and run towards the enemy, because you don't want to die. But asking for mercy when there's no way to safely more you across those lines isn't surrender, it's regret. Everyone wants to talk about how awesome a draft army is until they get fragged by the guy who never wanted to be there in the first place, but these days wearing a dress around the FOB wouldn't get him a discharge. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:04:13 AM EST
[#32]
There are no timeouts in war.
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:05:00 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let’s make a deal. I’ll keep apologizing for Ukraine as long as you keep apologizing for a pedophile No, keep doing what you're doing. Ukraine's online power fans are one of the best things about seeing them lose. and lol, scott ritter again? The guy outed as a perv by a sting op, but being into members of the opposite gender of child bearing age, so he's more normal than most of those ukraine flag accounts on twitter |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:05:09 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They should paint “I surrender” on top of all of their bunkers. Perfect! Then Ukraine couldn't bomb them! It works fine for my eight year old. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:07:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's consider this. It seems like the argument that this was wrong goes something like this: if you're about to be blown up, you put your hands up and act like you surrender. If you're not about to be blown up, you just carry on engaging in combat operations. So you're not a fair target if your hands are up? How does that work? I need to change my magazine: I put my hands up, and I'm off limits, then I can go back to fighting when I'm done. Is that it? Is that a serious position that GD wants to defend? Where is that Tweet pointing out the impetus and purpose of Russian disinfo? “Time-out, guys!” |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:08:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Under the Geneva and Hague conventions, as well as the laws and customs of war, the bombing of Japan was a legitimate action. The US didn't machine guns Japanese sailors in the water (the Japanese did, and behead US sailors pulled from the water). Firebombing the residential part of Tokyo was legitimate? Knowing that the structures were all wood and using incendiaries deliberately is totally okay? But dropping a grenade on a soldier is a war crime??? LOL! |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:09:28 AM EST
[#37]
"Look around you Colonel.....this, is not Geneva"
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:09:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryAnswer: "This is our country, our homes, our families. They have no honor, and I give them no hope or refuge. I'll give bullets to anyone who fights evil. May the Orcs die and never see the Sun rise again. I surrender my freedom to no one." |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:09:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What makes that a war crime? How is that any different than artillery hitting a troop concentration several times? It's an honest question... |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:11:10 AM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:12:05 AM EST
[#41]
Quoted:
I'm sure some here will love this, but it's a war crime. "Both Russia and Ukraine are Parties to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 1977 Additional Protocols. Accordingly, they are bound by those instruments, as well as the customary international law of armed conflict." Where does it say Orcs are protected by the Geneva Convention? The monsters can't even read. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:12:56 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's silly. You can't surrender to a drone. You can quit the fight and run towards the enemy, because you don't want to die. But asking for mercy when there's no way to safely more you across those lines isn't surrender, it's regret. It is disingenuous to say "you can't" when it has actually happened. Humans surrendered to a drone for the first time in 1991 .  Russian soldier surrenders to Ukrainian drone outside Bakhmut It might be "difficult", but it is possible and a legitimate action. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:13:16 AM EST
[#43]
Unlike some modern Superpowers. Russian Soldiers are conscripts. Dude probably didn't want to be there either.
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:13:32 AM EST
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Not a “war”, Putin only declared it a “special military action”.
Can you still have War Crimes if it’s not a war? 
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:14:03 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Firebombing the residential part of Tokyo was legitimate? Knowing that the structures were all wood and using incendiaries deliberately is totally okay? But dropping a grenade on a soldier is a war crime??? LOL!  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:15:10 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course it is regret. You think he had much choice to be there? Everyone wants to talk about how awesome a draft army is until they get fragged by the guy who never wanted to be there in the first place, but these days wearing a dress around the FOB wouldn't get him a discharge. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
I'm sure some here will love this, but it's a war crime. "Both Russia and Ukraine are Parties to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 1977 Additional Protocols. Accordingly, they are bound by those instruments, as well as the customary international law of armed conflict." That's silly. You can't surrender to a drone. You can quit the fight and run towards the enemy, because you don't want to die. But asking for mercy when there's no way to safely more you across those lines isn't surrender, it's regret. Everyone wants to talk about how awesome a draft army is until they get fragged by the guy who never wanted to be there in the first place, but these days wearing a dress around the FOB wouldn't get him a discharge. He had a choice. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:16:26 AM EST
[#47]
If they were in (insert your state here) raping and killing Americans, would you still feel the same way about Geneva conventions?
Honest question. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:16:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course it is regret. You think he had much choice to be there? Everyone wants to talk about how awesome a draft army is until they get fragged by the guy who never wanted to be there in the first place, but these days wearing a dress around the FOB wouldn't get him a discharge. Yes, he did have a choice. Three million Russians left the country rather than murder Ukrainians. They knew right from wrong and chose wisely. Screw those who didn't. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:16:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course it is regret. You think he had much choice to be there? Everyone wants to talk about how awesome a draft army is until they get fragged by the guy who never wanted to be there in the first place, but these days wearing a dress around the FOB wouldn't get him a discharge. Are you saying he had no choices between the war starting and the second drop? I know four different guys who dodged mobilization. Two left the country. One payed off the registrar. And the last one knocked up his girlfriend and got married. So the only people getting sent to front against their will are both stupid and poor. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:17:02 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here I am, responding to the ArfCommies. ArfCommies never met a Russian they wouldn't hastily trip and fall down to suck off. I don't care what the Ukrainians are doing, when Russians kill Ukrainian civilians in warcrime invasion, this is what you get. Guess who is under investigation for war crimes officially? Putin. He'll eventually get what's coming to him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Where are all the Uk fan bois Here I am, responding to the ArfCommies. ArfCommies never met a Russian they wouldn't hastily trip and fall down to suck off. I don't care what the Ukrainians are doing, when Russians kill Ukrainian civilians in warcrime invasion, this is what you get. Guess who is under investigation for war crimes officially? Putin. He'll eventually get what's coming to him. This is why this website is a fucking ghostown. |
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