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Posted: 8/26/2005 3:55:23 PM EDT
I wonder how many other gangs comprised of illegal aliens are not getting this much publicity?

Border's eyes focusing on bloody gang
U.S. lawmen say MS-13 members are trying to slip into Valley amid other immigrants

JAMES PINKERTON
Houston Chronicle Rio Grande Valley Bureau
Aug. 26, 2005
www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3325777
ROMA - It was a crude and savage killing, as five "clients" of an immigrant smuggler allegedly beat the Mexican youth to death in the brushy thickets outside of town.

His clients, authorities say, were members of the infamous Mara Salvatrucha gang, or MS-13, and were apparently angry at the 18-year-old smuggler for leaving behind a fellow gang member who had caused trouble.

The killing was in keeping with the violent reputation of the Central American street gang, whose members are known to be involved in various criminal enterprises.

''He was beaten to death with sticks and stones, and I'm not talking about little stones," said Marco Treviño, an assistant district attorney in Starr County. The prosecutor said two gang members are being held on murder charges related to the Aug. 10 attack and ''two or three" other gang members are being sought.

Across the Rio Grande Valley, local police are on the lookout for other MS-13 members, as Border Patrol agents report catching increasing numbers of gang members as they cross the river with other undocumented immigrants. Many are identified as MS-13 members because of large tattoos featuring gang initials in Gothic letters on their arms, hands, legs, chest and foreheads.

Federal agencies began a nationwide operation to round up MS-13 members and other gangs in March in response to a series of machete attacks in communities around Washington, D.C.

''Whenever we come in contact with illegals, we question them to see if they are gang members," said Sgt. Carlos Zamarron of the La Joya Police Department. He said the long-standing information about MS-13 members slipping across the Texas border with groups of undocumented workers has taken on new importance since the smuggler's death two weeks ago.

''We're very aware, and it's a big concern," Zamarron said.

Increased vigilance
In the two southernmost Border Patrol sectors on the Texas border — headquartered in McAllen and Laredo — agents have arrested 96 members of the MS-13 gang so far this fiscal year, which began Oct. 1, 2004, an agency spokesman said.

Although figures for the entire U.S.-Mexico border were not immediately available Thursday, most of the border arrests of MS-13 members have taken place in South Texas because of its proximity to Central America.

''They have a history of being very violent, and they are part of an organized criminal network heavily involved in human smuggling and drug smuggling," said Roy Cervantes, a spokesman for the Rio Grande Valley sector, where 48 gang members have been detained. ''They normally don't stay in the Valley; they use it as a corridor as they enter the United States and attempt to go to larger cities."

Border Patrol agents in the Rio Grande Valley sector arrested six gang members last year and caught only one in 2003, Cervantes said.

Cervantes said MS-13 members are traveling among large groups of immigrants from countries other than Mexico, which the agency refers to as ''OTMs." He stressed that gang members are placed in detention pending criminal proceedings or deportation.

''The Rio Grande Valley sector is an established corridor for smugglers that are moving OTMs into the interior, primarily because of geography, the (large) population and established smuggling networks on both sides of border," Cervantes said.

And in the sprawling Valley sector, which covers 316 miles of river from Brownsville to Roma, agents are now detaining more ''OTMs" than Mexicans, Cervantes said.

Motivated by money

So far this fiscal year, Border Patrol agents in the Valley sector have apprehended 119,470 immigrants, and 59 percent, or 70,305, were from countries other than Mexico, according to statistics provided by Cervantes.

In 2004, OTMs comprised 26,437 of the 96,641 detained, up from 14,919 OTMs among a total 81,185 immigrants detained in 2003, he said.

Gang members are telling Border Patrol agents they are leaving Central America because of hard economic times, the same motivation for most immigrants, Cervantes said.

''What we're seeing is the increase in MS-13 apprehensions is related to high numbers of OTMs in the sector," he said. ''The MS-13 members, in interviews with our agents, reveal they are departing from Honduras and Salvador ... for the same reasons others are leaving those areas — for economic reasons."

One high-profile arrest was made last February near Falfurrias by sheriff's deputies when they detained Lester Rivera Paz, 29, the reputed head of the MS-13 gang in Honduras.

Rivera fled the Central American country after being implicated in a Dec. 23 bus massacre in San Pedro Sula in which 28 people were shot to death.

The alleged gang leader was identified by the Border Patrol after his fingerprints were submitted to a government database, and has since been indicted on charges he entered the country illegally after four previous deportations. He remains in jail.

The roots of MS-13
The Mara Salvatrucha was formed in the early 1980s in Los Angeles by Salvadoran immigrants who had fled their homeland's brutal civil war.

Having their own gang allowed the Salvadorans — later joined by Hondurans, Guatemalans and other migrants — to protect themselves against the Mexican street gangs who dominated Los Angeles at the time.

Mara is Central American slang for street gang, the word deriving from a species of army ant that can devastate a forest.

The influx of Central American gang members worries border law officials, who are already combating crimes including kidnappings, drug trafficking and home invasions.

"This office is very concerned," said Treviño, the Starr County assistant prosecutor.
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 4:03:36 PM EDT

Federal agencies began a nationwide operation to round up MS-13 members and other gangs in March in response to a series of machete attacks in communities around Washington, D.C.


I was wondering why that ONE particular gang was getting so much attention
(I guess all the other ones are not such a big threat)
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 4:11:19 PM EDT
Wasn't this the group that AQ contacted to enlist their help?

I know there's quite a few of these guys in Houston, but I'm not sure where they hang out...

HH
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 4:27:01 PM EDT
Dateline San Francisco
30 September 2005

Supreme Court of California
350 McAllister Street
San Francisco, CA 94102-4783
Office of the Clerk: 415-865-7000


Today, ACLU attorneys argued that MS-13 members are eligible for a group discount on the soon-to-be-issued California 'guest worker' driver's licenses....
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 4:35:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Wasn't this the group that AQ contacted to enlist their help?

HH



One of them anyway.........


Originally Posted By Moof:
Dateline San Francisco
30 September 2005

Supreme Court of California
350 McAllister Street
San Francisco, CA 94102-4783
Office of the Clerk: 415-865-7000

Today, ACLU attorneys argued that MS-13 members are eligible for a group discount on the soon-to-be-issued California 'guest worker' driver's licenses....



MG they have GOT to be kidding
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 4:47:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/26/2005 6:53:45 PM EDT
wasn't this the gang that was going to come to AZ and "kick the minutemens asses"?
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 6:56:47 PM EDT
The hell you say.
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 7:11:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fourays2:
wasn't this the gang that was going to come to AZ and "kick the minutemens asses"?



I thought they were offering a reward for someone else to do it, that might of been against the Cops though($50K?)
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 7:11:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/26/2005 7:17:23 PM EDT by FN-TPS]
The myth of the giant, all powerfull MS-13 Gang, ought to be on Snopes.com.

It's the biggest pile of Palocon horse shit, since they used the"Cocaine crazed, negros will rape your white women" line, to start the war on drugs in the first part of the last century.

Why is it, that we question every last Law Enforcement dog shooting to the minutest degree of detail, but instantly buy into every "prisoner told me" or "friend of a friend of a source" supposed MS-13 story?

Why would the head of the California Assocation of Gang Task Force Investigators, be warning that MS-13's numbers were being blow all out of proportion, by many American Law enforcement Agencies, to the point of doubling the actual membership numbers?

It's simple really. It boils down to two factors. Police and Law Enforcement Agencies NEED FEDERAL AND STATE GRANT MONEY! and Minutemen Border Militia types NEED A REASON TO CARRY GUNS!

Thus every illegal with a gothic character tatoo and every hispanic jail house rumor, are instantly attributed to and tabulated into the MS-13 numbers. Because theres government money and public support numbers in the lie, that every other illegal crossing the border is carrying an AK or lugging an RPG.

To enrage people and bring the grant money...You have to have an armed aggressive boogie man...the thousands opon thousands of poor unarmed, ignorant peasants crossing the border don't quite fit the bill....they just don't quite engender the sort of propoganda of fear image, needed to justify pork barrel Law Enforcement spending or the open carry of long weapons by civilian militias.

The one thing that the Jack Booted Thugs and the Tin Foil Militia Men can agree on, is the need for a armed, violent, boogie man to scare the public with, in order to further both their agenda's. The simple reality of the millions of unarmed poor illegals over whelming the economy and the health care system were not generating enough anger ...so they had to invent a threat.

Thats why every whisper and rumor of MS-13 is freely believed and accepted as gospel, by people who usually belive that anything the Government or Law Enforcement says is conspiracy or lie

Link Posted: 8/26/2005 7:29:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FN-TPS:
The myth of the giant, all powerfull MS-13 Gang, ought to be on Snopes.com.

It's the biggest pile of Palocon horse shit, since they used the"Cocaine crazed, negros will rape your white women" line, to start the war on drugs in the first part of the last century.
(have you ever been inside a jail or prison, there are plenty of those exact people you are saying don't exist)

Why is it, that we question every last Law Enforcement dog shooting to the minutest degree of detail, but instantly buy into every "prisoner told me" or "friend of a friend of a source" supposed MS-13 story?
(maybe you believe everything you are told.................)

Why would the head of the California Assocation of Gang Task Force Investigators, be warning that MS-13's numbers were being blow all out of proportion, by many American Law enforcement Agencies, to the point of doubling the actual membership numbers?
(yeah, that is the first time anything like that has ever happened in the history of the world)

It's simple really. It boils down to two factors. Police and Law Enforcement Agencies NEED FEDERAL AND STATE GRANT MONEY! and Minutemen Border Militia types NEED A REASON TO CARRY GUNS!
(WTF?, the Minutemen NEED a REASON to carry guns? Were you born here? Hint: US Constitution)

Thus every illegal with a gothic character tatoo and every hispanic jail house rumor are instantly attributed to and tabulated into the MS-13 numbers. Because theres government money and public support numbers in the lie, that every other illegal crossing the border is carrying an AK or lugging an RPG.
(how do you know how many illegals illegally crossing the border are armed, are you a coyote?)

To enrage people and bring the grant money...You have to have an armed aggressive boogie man...the thousands opon thousands of poor unarmed, ignorant peasants crossing the border don't quite fit the bill....they just don't quite engender the sort of propoganda of fear image, needed to justify pork barrel Law Enforcement spending or the open carry of long weapons by civilian militias.
(I didn't realize they were so harmless, open the hospitals back up, release the illegals from prison
and have those kidnapped, raped and killed Children, Cops and Citizens come back to life)


The one thing that the Jack Booted Thugs and the Tin Foil Militia Men can agree on, is the need for a armed, violent, boogie man to scare the public with, in order to further both their agenda's. The simple reality of the millions of unarmed poor illegals over whelming the economy and the health care system were not generating enough anger ...so they had to invent a threat.

Thats why every whisper and rumor of MS-13 is freely believed and accepted as gospel, by people who usually belive that anything the Government or Law Enforcement says is conspiracy or lie



You sure can sling the BS

Link Posted: 8/26/2005 7:35:28 PM EDT



The dam has broke, the ball has left the pitcher's hand and all the horses are out of the barn.


All that's left now is the inevitable.


"There's a storm coming in."
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