U.S. Agents Arrest Dozens Of Dads In Support Cases

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - U.S. Agents Arrest Dozens Of Dads In Support Cases

Posted: 8/19/2002 1:48:46 PM EDT

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Posted: 8/19/2002 1:54:54 PM EDT

[#1]

This isn't a big surprise, in case that is your concern. They announced the plans for this over a month ago. These guys knew the Feds were coming and they had every opportunity to square up. No pity.

Posted: 8/19/2002 2:17:33 PM EDT

[#2]

I am torn on this issue as i have been on both sides of it. I got into back due support when i lost a job a few years ago. Even though i had made arrangements through the court i was harrased to no end by the local hrs office.
I also have freind that just got nailed. He was served papers last week for being over 10,000 in arrears for a child he never knew he had. Mom never told him she was pregnant. She had the kid several years ago and has decided to be a single mom. SHe lost her job last month and filed for child support. He was hit with a court order and 90 days to pay.

From my own experience and others i have seen first hand i take the dead beat dad reports with a grain of salt. It is MUCH more politics than caring about child welfare.

mike

Posted: 8/20/2002 5:49:49 AM EDT

[#3]

I think the system needs to be overhauled. I've had a couple of friends newly married, wives got pregnant or had the baby, left to go with another guy, and they were left with child support payments. They got taken royally and will be paying out for 18 years. It's a scam.

It's unfortunate that this kind of thing happens, but it does all the time.

Posted: 8/20/2002 9:28:29 PM EDT

[#4]

Second wife had 6 year old daughter when we married.Her dad was pond scum. He had a great job.Fought him for support for 11 years.He'd go to court and pay her a piddly amount to show "good faith" (yeah good faith...that's why he was in court cause he was such a great guy..made 60 to 80 plus a year) so he would not pay another dime for the next two or three years till the next court appearance. Finally the judge told him that if he didn't show up with a check for the full amount he owed her he needed to bring a toothbrush. Judge said don't make me issue a warrant for ya either. He paid up and the my daughter never saw him again.BOOOHOOO What a guy. Last I heard his other 3 kids (by his 2nd wife) he has at home are ALL on drugs and are deadheads! In and out of jail and in trouble everyday! hehehe SWEET! tha prick! Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy! [:D]

Posted: 8/20/2002 9:46:58 PM EDT

[#5]

I wish I could get federal agents to threaten people that owe me money. Oops, I can't.

the government said, were an Oklahoma sheet metal worker who has not made child support payments in 16 years and owes $297,000;

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How is a sheet metal worker going to come-up with $297,000??

James A. Circle, says he earned more than $39,000 a year and had been ordered to pay $350 a week for a child in New Jersey.

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$350 per week is $18,200 per year! How in the world could he be expected to pay nearly 100% of his income, after taxes, in child support?

I (obviously) think a father should support their children, but in every single case I've seen personally, the amount the court ordered the father to pay in child support is much more than they can afford. If the court ordered the fathers to pay an amount they could, they would probably collect more often. Instead, it seems the "justice" system simply wants to create more criminals.

I'm embarrassed to admit this, but my niece got a judge to order her former husband to pay for a private school for their three kids. The private school for the three kids costs more than the father makes after taxes! I know that, because I do them. In addition, he is still required to pay alimony and child support. The guy works hard, and is missing payments. Since he lives just in North Carolina and his wife lives in SC, he might one day be arrested by a federal agent. It is sickening to me to see what my niece did to him.z

Posted: 8/21/2002 11:28:21 AM EDT

[#6]

"$350 per week is $18,200 per year! How in the world could he be expected to pay nearly 100% of his income, after taxes, in child support?"

join the club when my ex took me back to court. I got stuck paying 720 a month for 2 kids. At the time i was making a little over 18k a year after taxes. I couldn't afford rent, car or food at the time so i got into arrears. It's damn hard to pay child support if yo die from starvation. Luckily i was able to hook a good job and get thing straightend out.

MOST guys trully want to support their kids. But it should be a 2 way street. I get to see mine once a year if i am lucky, and i have to pay their travel. She lives at home with no job and no bills. Living 100% off the child support. Support that is supposed to be going to the kids not my sorry ex's ass. The courts have ZERO regard for fathers rights. If a woman bitches she gets everything she asks for.

Posted: 8/21/2002 11:41:59 AM EDT

[#7]

Seems like if word got out it might prevent some folks from having kids before they are ready. It may not be fair but I don't understand people who are barely scraping by as it is then they decide to pop out a few rugrats. Yeah, everyone has the right to have children but you have to be realistic about it. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Then they realize they hate the person they had the kids with, or get caught screwing around, and they are supposed to get a free pass from child care responsibility. Oh, I guess the other tax payers should kick in the money to give the kids a chance. Give me a break. Yeah, some guys get shithammered in the deal but most just expect to walk away for free and let someone else raise their kids.

Posted: 8/21/2002 1:01:21 PM EDT

[#8]

The sad thing is many of these dads have no visitation rights. I used to think these guys were assholes, but so many people I know are being screwed in family court it's understandable they don't pay.

Posted: 8/21/2002 1:24:12 PM EDT

[#9]

My only problem with child support is this. The woman has zero responsibility for accountability of the money.

I agree the kids should be taken care of. I don't agree that in some cases 80% of a mans income should be taken while the ex wife has is not expected to account for any of it. I know for a fact my child support payments have bought my ex 2 new cars And pays her cell phone charges. What the fuck does that have to do with supporting a child?

mike

Posted: 8/21/2002 1:31:40 PM EDT

[#10]

lets also not forget that as a PAYING father i am taxed on the money. Then i am not eligable for a child deduction on income taxes as i do not have custody.

Bottom line is fathers get screwed to no end. My divorce was not my fault. My ex has serious mental issues that i found out about after we were married and had kids. SHe cracked and basically should have been locked away. She moved home and here parents are raising my kids. I have tried for custody twice. The judge is a freind of her father and refuses to recuse himself from the case.

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