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Posted: 12/26/2012 7:53:10 PM EDT
Does the president have to authorize use of nuclear weapons in a defensive situation?
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 7:54:17 PM EDT
He only has to authorize use of lasers.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 7:54:28 PM EDT
You going for a record?
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 7:57:06 PM EDT
Yep.

But it ain't like conditional pre-authorization is a new concept.

Link Posted: 12/26/2012 7:57:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
He only has to authorize use of lasers.


quik strike on washington while ... well maybe pres is on his way back from hawaii and unaccounted for....

take out the right court justices....

untouched bounty in America without a "leader"...
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 7:58:27 PM EDT
wow, that's all I got.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 7:58:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
He only has to authorize use of lasers.


quik strike on washington while ... well maybe pres is on his way back from hawaii and unaccounted for....

take out the right court justices....

untouched bounty in America without a "leader"...


You might want to go back down into the bunker. You never know what could happen.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 7:58:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By S-28:
Yep.

But it ain't like conditional pre-authorization is a new concept.



I never heard that.

Are you sure that is the policy with this administration?
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 7:59:47 PM EDT
That suitcase
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:00:31 PM EDT
This night will climax with a KeithG vs KeithJ showdown......
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:00:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
He only has to authorize use of lasers.


quik strike on washington while ... well maybe pres is on his way back from hawaii and unaccounted for....

take out the right court justices....

untouched bounty in America without a "leader"...


There are continuity of government plans that are VERY well worked out to avoid pitfalls like that. Google up the Russian Dead Hand system, and the British Letters of Last Resort. We have our own implementations.

There is no fucking way they can decapitate our government in a way that would prevent a nuclear counterattack.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:02:03 PM EDT
Wing Attack Plan R
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:02:07 PM EDT
Finish your English homework and go back to bed Mr. Putin.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:03:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
He only has to authorize use of lasers.


quik strike on washington while ... well maybe pres is on his way back from hawaii and unaccounted for....

take out the right court justices....

untouched bounty in America without a "leader"...


There are continuity of government plans that are VERY well worked out to avoid pitfalls like that. Google up the Russian Dead Hand system, and the British Letters of Last Resort. We have our own implementations.

There is no fucking way they can decapitate our government in a way that would prevent a nuclear counterattack.


for a sub strike on washington on the talks of the cliff?


can we not assume DC could be gone at any minute?

Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:04:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
He only has to authorize use of lasers.


quik strike on washington while ... well maybe pres is on his way back from hawaii and unaccounted for....

take out the right court justices....

untouched bounty in America without a "leader"...


There are continuity of government plans that are VERY well worked out to avoid pitfalls like that. Google up the Russian Dead Hand system, and the British Letters of Last Resort. We have our own implementations.

There is no fucking way they can decapitate our government in a way that would prevent a nuclear counterattack.


for a sub strike on washington on the talks of the cliff?


can we not assume DC could be gone at any minute?



I wish we could.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:05:55 PM EDT
Nukes are good for women.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:07:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
Finish your English homework and go back to bed Mr. Putin.


Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:07:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
He only has to authorize use of lasers.


quik strike on washington while ... well maybe pres is on his way back from hawaii and unaccounted for....

take out the right court justices....

untouched bounty in America without a "leader"...


There are continuity of government plans that are VERY well worked out to avoid pitfalls like that. Google up the Russian Dead Hand system, and the British Letters of Last Resort. We have our own implementations.

There is no fucking way they can decapitate our government in a way that would prevent a nuclear counterattack.


for a sub strike on washington on the talks of the cliff?


can we not assume DC could be gone at any minute?



I wish we could.


10,000,000 disciplined chinese regulars could kick some ass
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:14:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KeithG:

can we not assume DC could be gone at any minute?



A few years back, there was this thing called "The Cold War". In it, we and the Soviets faced off with all kinds of nuclear weapons. We both spent a lot of time planning for the mechanics of a real honest war that would include large scale use of nuclear weapons by both sides. The Soviets had the advantage with regards to number of warheads, but they weren't as accurate as ours. We relied on the idea that precision strikes could disable the targets we assigned them, the Russians kind of leaned towards "hit the vicinity five or six times".

So... Put yourself in the place of a strategist trying to plan our response to that kind of attack... You know there's going to be a lot of mean shit flying at Washington DC. Try as you might, some of that is probably going to get through defenses. That means you can pretty much start any nuclear war game with DC lighting off like a junebug hitting a bug zapper.

There are lots of neat bunkers in and around DC from those times, but the idea was always to get the important folks out of town, and plan around it being a crater.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:15:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
He only has to authorize use of lasers.


quik strike on washington while ... well maybe pres is on his way back from hawaii and unaccounted for....

take out the right court justices....

untouched bounty in America without a "leader"...


There are continuity of government plans that are VERY well worked out to avoid pitfalls like that. Google up the Russian Dead Hand system, and the British Letters of Last Resort. We have our own implementations.

There is no fucking way they can decapitate our government in a way that would prevent a nuclear counterattack.


for a sub strike on washington on the talks of the cliff?


can we not assume DC could be gone at any minute?



I wish we could.


10,000,000 disciplined chinese regulars could kick some ass


Logistics may be a problem for the Chicoms.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:19:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By S-28:
Yep.

But it ain't like conditional pre-authorization is a new concept.



I never heard that.

Are you sure that is the policy with this administration?


Stupid thing is, we wouldn't know. Conditional pre-authorization is constantly changing in response to anticipated threats as they evolve.
If Obongo did away with it, we would never know, and it would be a good thing to keep it that way.





Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:26:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:

can we not assume DC could be gone at any minute?



A few years back, there was this thing called "The Cold War". In it, we and the Soviets faced off with all kinds of nuclear weapons. We both spent a lot of time planning for the mechanics of a real honest war that would include large scale use of nuclear weapons by both sides. The Soviets had the advantage with regards to number of warheads, but they weren't as accurate as ours. We relied on the idea that precision strikes could disable the targets we assigned them, the Russians kind of leaned towards "hit the vicinity five or six times".

So... Put yourself in the place of a strategist trying to plan our response to that kind of attack... You know there's going to be a lot of mean shit flying at Washington DC. Try as you might, some of that is probably going to get through defenses. That means you can pretty much start any nuclear war game with DC lighting off like a junebug hitting a bug zapper.

There are lots of neat bunkers in and around DC from those times, but the idea was always to get the important folks out of town, and plan around it being a crater.


just for assumptions sake
can i not assume the current president said fuck that?

can i not hypothesize the current president might have other ideas?

he is the commander in chief, right?
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:31:23 PM EDT
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:33:01 PM EDT
Wing Attack Plan R? Screw that... give me a 21Zebra
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:35:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KeithG:

just for assumptions sake
can i not assume the current president said fuck that?

can i not hypothesize the current president might have other ideas?

he is the commander in chief, right?


You can assume or hypothesize anything you like. Whether that's rational or not is another thing entirely.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:35:57 PM EDT
If they did anything we'd pull a number 6 on them.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:36:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Wing Attack Plan R


Do you know there are plans underway to fluoridate icecream? CHILDREN'S ICECREAM, KEITHG?






And I'm watching Lord of War and wondering why my local gun store is out of nukes.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:38:06 PM EDT
Been here for 12 years and you are about to double your post count in 1 thread.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:40:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KeithG:
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?


Penetration aids? Advances in accuracy?

There's not enough public info to decide whether it was a net loss in capability, even if it might seem so.

They don't really tell us a hell of a lot about them.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:42:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Wing Attack Plan R


Do you know there are plans underway to fluoridate icecream? CHILDREN'S ICECREAM, KEITHG?






And I'm watching Lord of War and wondering why my local gun store is out of nukes.


laugh it up boys...

if you were a muslim how would be best to squash Christianity?

if you don't think the middle east is a holy war>>> think again

Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:42:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?


Penetration aids? Advances in accuracy?

There's not enough public info to decide whether it was a net loss in capability, even if it might seem so.

They don't really tell us a hell of a lot about them.


Lube? Arent the missiles flying fast enough to penetrate without fucking lube?
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:44:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?


Penetration aids? Advances in accuracy?

There's not enough public info to decide whether it was a net loss in capability, even if it might seem so.

They don't really tell us a hell of a lot about them.


Lube? Arent the missiles flying fast enough to penetrate without fucking lube?


Moscow is one hell of a dry cunt.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:46:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?


Penetration aids? Advances in accuracy?

There's not enough public info to decide whether it was a net loss in capability, even if it might seem so.

They don't really tell us a hell of a lot about them.


well the thing is man

and this is a big one

what if the man that needs to push the button>>>>>>

says no

Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:46:47 PM EDT

Skybird, this is Looking Glass. Message follows......

Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:48:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?


Penetration aids? Advances in accuracy?

There's not enough public info to decide whether it was a net loss in capability, even if it might seem so.

They don't really tell us a hell of a lot about them.


Lube? Arent the missiles flying fast enough to penetrate without fucking lube?


Moscow is one hell of a dry cunt.


moscow????

hell moscow aint gonna do it

if it did happen it would be islamic
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:51:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?


Penetration aids? Advances in accuracy?

There's not enough public info to decide whether it was a net loss in capability, even if it might seem so.

They don't really tell us a hell of a lot about them.


well the thing is man

and this is a big one

what if the man that needs to push the button>>>>>>

says no



Then we're fucked.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:53:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By nuke41:

Skybird, this is Looking Glass. Message follows......



At that point I'm breaking out my everclear bottle and hoping to be in primary effect.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:53:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KeithG:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?


Penetration aids? Advances in accuracy?

There's not enough public info to decide whether it was a net loss in capability, even if it might seem so.

They don't really tell us a hell of a lot about them.


well the thing is man

and this is a big one

what if the man that needs to push the button>>>>>>

says no



I can't confirm you're TS-SIOP clearance, so I can't tell you the cool stuff. So far you are full of fail on nuclear war theory and command and control.

Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:55:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/26/2012 8:56:31 PM EDT by iwouldntknow]
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?


Penetration aids? Advances in accuracy?

There's not enough public info to decide whether it was a net loss in capability, even if it might seem so.

They don't really tell us a hell of a lot about them.

and
Lube? Arent the missiles flying fast enough to penetrate without fucking lube?


Moscow is one hell of a dry cunt.


So what kind of lube do we load into our ICBMs? Its got to have a stable shelf life, travel over long distances without degrading, and lubricate at high pressures, temperatures, and speeds. I may need some.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:56:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By nuke41:

Skybird, this is Looking Glass. Message follows......



At that point I'm breaking out my everclear bottle and hoping to be in primary effect.



10 green MAWAY lights and it's planet of the apes!


Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:56:48 PM EDT
Keith_J's troll account?
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:57:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By nuke41:
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By nuke41:

Skybird, this is Looking Glass. Message follows......



At that point I'm breaking out my everclear bottle and hoping to be in primary effect.



10 green MAWAY lights and it's planet of the apes!




For them. I want to be outside of fallout or inside of primary effect. Fuck radiation sickness.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:58:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?


Penetration aids? Advances in accuracy?

There's not enough public info to decide whether it was a net loss in capability, even if it might seem so.

They don't really tell us a hell of a lot about them.

and
Lube? Arent the missiles flying fast enough to penetrate without fucking lube?


Moscow is one hell of a dry cunt.


So what kind of lube do we load into our ICBMs? Its got to have a stable shelf life, travel over long distances without degrading, and lubricate at high pressures, temperatures, and speeds. I may need some.


A suck for SAC is a blow for freedom!




Link Posted: 12/26/2012 9:00:01 PM EDT
Zero would try to find some way, to make it look like NK, Iran or terrorists dropped it on DC so that he could use it, to make him the high chancellor, oh wait, that's kind of what Hitler did.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 9:02:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/26/2012 9:04:33 PM EDT by iwouldntknow]
Originally Posted By nuke41:
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
So what kind of lube do we load into our ICBMs? Its got to have a stable shelf life, travel over long distances without degrading, and lubricate at high pressures, temperatures, and speeds. I may need some.


A suck for SAC is a blow for freedom!






At least give me the recipe? I my regular lube wears off before I can finish to the thought of total world destruction.








Link Posted: 12/26/2012 9:03:21 PM EDT
As the commander-in-chef, I think he can make whatever he wants.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 9:05:28 PM EDT
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=national+command+authority

Whether anyone other than the President can direct the use of nuclear weapons is a subject of some speculation and would be a closely guarded secret. Just the uncertainty of that would complicate a large scale attack plan against the US. For example, during the cold war the possibility was often discussed that the NEACP might be able to order weapons release under some circumstances, it's existence seemed pointless otherwise.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 9:05:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By KeithG:
why would one tactical missile with 6 warheads be a "cold war" thing anyway

our subs now only have 1 warhead per missile ....

so that's no big deal ... right?


Penetration aids? Advances in accuracy?

There's not enough public info to decide whether it was a net loss in capability, even if it might seem so.

They don't really tell us a hell of a lot about them.

and
Lube? Arent the missiles flying fast enough to penetrate without fucking lube?


Moscow is one hell of a dry cunt.


So what kind of lube do we load into our ICBMs? Its got to have a stable shelf life, travel over long distances without degrading, and lubricate at high pressures, temperatures, and speeds. I may need some.


Aint just lube. They pack wingmen to take one for the team and draw off the fat chicks.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 9:07:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
Logistics may be a problem for the Chicoms.


Ypu're kidding, right? They provide most of the developed world with everything from buttons to tanker ships - shifting 10,000,000 troops would be a doddle - think of it this way, some of the ww2 troopships could haul 10,000 in a single trip, a converted container ship could carry many, many more.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 9:08:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By nuke41:
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
So what kind of lube do we load into our ICBMs? Its got to have a stable shelf life, travel over long distances without degrading, and lubricate at high pressures, temperatures, and speeds. I may need some.


A suck for SAC is a blow for freedom!






At least give me the recipe? I my regular lube wears off before I can finish to the thought of total world destruction.










In the SAC of old Curtis Lemay would dry hump people, in my day we used KY to help, I'm dated so I don't know what the new kids in STRATCOM use.




Link Posted: 12/26/2012 9:12:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By nuke41:
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By nuke41:
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
So what kind of lube do we load into our ICBMs? Its got to have a stable shelf life, travel over long distances without degrading, and lubricate at high pressures, temperatures, and speeds. I may need some.


A suck for SAC is a blow for freedom!






At least give me the recipe? I my regular lube wears off before I can finish to the thought of total world destruction.










In the SAC of old Curtis Lemay would dry hump people, in my day we used KY to help, I'm dated so I don't know what the new kids in STRATCOM use.






We need more like Lemay.
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