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Posted: 12/14/2013 6:29:57 PM EDT
So, any bets on when US, China and Japan clash for real? "guided missile cruiser USS Cowpens, which recently took part in disaster relief operations in the Philippines, was confronted by Chinese warships in the South China Sea near Beijing’s new aircraft carrier Liaoning"

"the run-in began after a Chinese navy vessel sent a hailing warning and ordered the Cowpens to stop. The cruiser continued on its course and refused the order because it was operating in international waters.

Then a Chinese tank landing ship sailed in front of the Cowpens and stopped, forcing the Cowpens to abruptly change course"

http://freebeacon.com/chinese-naval-vessel-tries-to-force-u-s-warship-to-stop-in-international-waters/

Kudos to the Commander and crew of the Mighty Moo! Stay safe out there

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:30:54 PM EDT
It's happening?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:31:27 PM EDT
Again?

Next question, why is there a ship named after cow pens?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:32:09 PM EDT
Fucking Chinese..... they can ESAD (eat shit and die)

FBHO, he approved of the Chinese maneuver.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:32:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:34:03 PM EDT
Ancient Chinee Fire Drill, eh?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:34:58 PM EDT
A Revolutionary war battle took place in a set of cow pens. That is where the name came from.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:35:20 PM EDT
Meh.  Who cares.

Obama will apologize soon.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:35:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KA3B:
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Revolutionary War battle.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:36:46 PM EDT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cowpens
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:37:10 PM EDT
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Because War for Independence.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:38:36 PM EDT
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Battle of Cowpens, a turning point battle in South Carolina during the Revoloutionary War.

I guess I'm a little slow beat 4x
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:40:09 PM EDT
we should have nuked them when they rammed our EP-3.

or at least bombed another of their embassies.

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:40:22 PM EDT
Holly Graf sez Dupe! and You're on timeout.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:42:08 PM EDT



This is not a big deal.

We used to play this game with the Soviets all of the time.


Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:42:59 PM EDT
So what? Any navy would do the same to a vessel approaching one of their carriers. Or worse.

Heck, especially when it's your learner permit carrier and you know it's doomed anyhow.

STAY BACK! OK? Just gimme room, I got this...



Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:43:07 PM EDT
Don't worry, in the next president election the Chinese government will make a large contribution to the democrat party and have control of any area they wish...
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:44:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paris1:
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I was wondering when her name was going to enter this thread.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:49:02 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Maccrage:



Originally Posted By KA3B:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cowpens
Got to admire those Brits on organization and exactness




Broken down by troop classification, there were 300 cavalry, 553
regulars, 24 artillerymen and 281 militia. Tarleton’s men from the Royal
Artillery, 17th Light Dragoons, 7th Regiment (Royal Fusliers), 16th
Regiment and 71st Regiment were reliable and good soldiers

 
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:51:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dog-meat:
we should have nuked them when they rammed our EP-3.

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I don't know about nuking, but a JDAM from a Spirit would have been appropriate.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:53:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:54:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paul:
It's shocking all the pilots here who can't even remember the simplest laws of the seas.

The law of gross tonage comes to play in most situations. I dare say that the Chinese carrier was the larger vessel and therefore the USS Cowpens is required to yield the right-of-way. Day one shit in any skipper's course.

Additionally if the Chinese carrier was in restricted manuevering/flights ops flying the "get the fuck out of my way day shapes", again all vessels are required to yield.

Ball/diamond/ball ... better you move ya'all.
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Do Chinese/Russian carriers have a Kennedy pole?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:55:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

I don't know about nuking, but a JDAM from a Spirit would have been appropriate.
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By dog-meat:
we should have nuked them when they rammed our EP-3.

or at least bombed another of their embassies.


I don't know about nuking, but a JDAM from a Spirit would have been appropriate.


Armor the bows and cut them in half. Oops...sorry. Didn't see you there.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:55:43 PM EDT
Sounds like the current generation of USN skippers are going to get to relive the fun and games the 6th Fleet had with the russian fleet in the Mediterranean during the cold war.

What's that line...  Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...  Something like that.

-Gator
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:56:15 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Maccrage:



Originally Posted By KA3B:

Again?



Next question, why is there a ship named after cow pens?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cowpens




 
Next question, why is there a city named after cow pens?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:58:38 PM EDT
Goddamn it, that in my AO. They need to hold off another couple weeks.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:58:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aloxite:
Originally Posted By Maccrage:
Originally Posted By KA3B:
Again?

Next question, why is there a ship named after cow pens?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cowpens

  Next question, why is there a city named after cow pens?

Named after the battle.

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:01:15 PM EDT

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cowpens



 
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:07:37 PM EDT
Red China's Navy has been bullying Vietnam, Taiwan, and Japan for awhile now.

China is a powder keg waiting to explode.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:13:28 PM EDT
China still has a very long ways to go if they want to get into a fight with USN and have the expectation to be anything other than annihilated.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:18:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paul:
It's shocking all the pilots here who can't even remember the simplest laws of the seas.

The law of gross tonage comes to play in most situations. I dare say that the Chinese carrier was the larger vessel and therefore the USS Cowpens is required to yield the right-of-way. Day one shit in any skipper's course.

Additionally if the Chinese carrier was in restricted manuevering/flights ops flying the "get the fuck out of my way day shapes", again all vessels are required to yield.

Ball/diamond/ball ... better you move ya'all.
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it sounded like an amphibian boat cut them off.  Not a carrier

Either way I bet the shit was like whale wars.   1,000 yards away.   Freaking out like you are in the same bath tub as the other guy
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 5:43:05 AM EDT
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Battle of Cowpens, a turning point battle in South Carolina during the Revoloutionary War.

I guess I'm a little slow beat 4x
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Originally Posted By KA3B:
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Next question, why is there a ship named after cow pens?





Battle of Cowpens, a turning point battle in South Carolina during the Revoloutionary War.

I guess I'm a little slow beat 4x


+1.

The tactics used in this battle were noteworthy.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 5:46:24 AM EDT
Was Cowpens the one where Mel Gibson led us to our first open battlefield win?
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 5:47:26 AM EDT
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it sounded like an amphibian boat cut them off.  Not a carrier

Either way I bet the shit was like whale wars.   1,000 yards away.   Freaking out like you are in the same bath tub as the other guy
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Originally Posted By baitdragger:
Originally Posted By Paul:
It's shocking all the pilots here who can't even remember the simplest laws of the seas.

The law of gross tonage comes to play in most situations. I dare say that the Chinese carrier was the larger vessel and therefore the USS Cowpens is required to yield the right-of-way. Day one shit in any skipper's course.

Additionally if the Chinese carrier was in restricted manuevering/flights ops flying the "get the fuck out of my way day shapes", again all vessels are required to yield.

Ball/diamond/ball ... better you move ya'all.


it sounded like an amphibian boat cut them off.  Not a carrier

Either way I bet the shit was like whale wars.   1,000 yards away.   Freaking out like you are in the same bath tub as the other guy


And I bet you have never maneuvered a vessel at sea.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 5:50:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By KSODA:
So, any bets on when US, China and Japan clash for real? "guided missile cruiser USS Cowpens, which recently took part in disaster relief operations in the Philippines, was confronted by Chinese warships in the South China Sea near Beijing’s new aircraft carrier Liaoning"

"the run-in began after a Chinese navy vessel sent a hailing warning and ordered the Cowpens to stop. The cruiser continued on its course and refused the order because it was operating in international waters.

Then a Chinese tank landing ship sailed in front of the Cowpens and stopped, forcing the Cowpens to abruptly change course"

http://freebeacon.com/chinese-naval-vessel-tries-to-force-u-s-warship-to-stop-in-international-waters/

Kudos to the Commander and crew of the Mighty Moo! Stay safe out there

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Well we were, kind of, sailing our ships to look at their carrier up close and personal like, and they, understandably, didn't like that. Now, don't get me wrong, fuck the Chinese with a flypaper covered dildo, but we basically pulled the same stunt as the fuckwit who walks around public areas with an AR15 strapped to his back or teh gay rights guy who runs up to hug children while wearing a banana hammock, leather chaps, and a smile.

Would one of our carrier groups let a chinese destroyer fuck around in their midst?

Would one of our carrier groups let a Chinese Destroyer within 5NM of them?
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Will the US Navy go against the orders of the Clown in Chief to not annihilate the Chinese Navy?
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 6:01:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stanag4179:
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Yes. He called in ' broken arrow ' over the radio and the germans dropped nape inside his position at Pearl Harbor. It was glorious.
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I misread it with an extra "i" in there...
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 6:04:28 AM EDT

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Yes. He called in ' broken arrow ' over the radio and the germans dropped nape inside his position at Pearl Harbor. It was glorious.
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Originally Posted By stanag4179:

Was Cowpens the one where Mel Gibson led us to our first open battlefield win?






Yes. He called in ' broken arrow ' over the radio and the germans dropped nape inside his position at Pearl Harbor. It was glorious.


 
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 6:04:38 AM EDT

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Well at least it wasn't a dupe about a lead smelter closing.  



 
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 6:10:11 AM EDT
The time be a coming for the sleeping giant to reawaken.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 6:13:01 AM EDT
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Yes why is a ship named Cowpens?

Can I dupe it?
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 6:13:06 AM EDT
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History, read any ?
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 6:15:03 AM EDT
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History, read any ?
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Originally Posted By KA3B:
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History, read any ?


Obviously you and a few other posters don't read other threads on this very topic and get the reference
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 6:22:37 AM EDT
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Battle of Cowpens, a turning point battle in South Carolina during the Revoloutionary War.

I guess I'm a little slow beat 4x
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Originally Posted By KA3B:
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Battle of Cowpens, a turning point battle in South Carolina during the Revoloutionary War.

I guess I'm a little slow beat 4x

Daniel Morgan crushed Tarleton's British Legion which served as a flank guard for Cornwallis' advance into North Carolina. The other flank guard was led by Maj. Patrick Ferguson (inventor of a breechloading flintlock) and was crushed by the Over-Mountain Men at King's Mountain.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 6:45:35 AM EDT
Needs more Admiral Willis Lee.  

http://neveryetmelted.com/2007/08/31/stand-aside-this-is-ching/

FWIW, this is just the right scenario for a modern battleship.  Not one of those Chinese vessels could have survived a ramming from a battleship.  The article is wrong in one respect.  Admiral Lee had little to do with training the crew of the Washington.  Her first sea captain was old school and drilled the crew relentlessly.  The ship was a already fine tuned instrument by the time Admiral Lee came aboard.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 2:12:03 PM EDT
Being trade partners with Japan and China poses a tad bit of prob for Taiwan. They've been quite so far. A matter of time before China goes for Taiwan and theres a large 200 billion cubic meters gas field around these islands, not to mention strategic positioning. Anyone for Battleship game tonight? Or the movie? Bring in the USS Mighty Mo and few good 'ol vets... They took care of the aliens after all http://en.ria.ru/images/17625/49/176254910.jpg
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 2:26:13 PM EDT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cowpens

Revolutionary War
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 2:33:19 PM EDT
May as well get it over with. We're only getting weaker as they grow stronger.
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