Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login

Arrow Left Previous Page
Page / 2
Posted: 10/3/2014 8:54:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2014 8:56:25 AM EST by scootr29]
US JOBLESS RATE FALLS TO 6-YEAR LOW OF 5.9 PCT.

The unemployment rate fell from 6.1 percent in August and is now close to 5.5 percent, which many economists consider a healthy level. The lower rate, combined with the surge in hiring, could ratchet up pressure on the Federal Reserve to raise its benchmark interest rate earlier than expected. Most economists have predicted that the Fed would start raising rates in mid-2015.



But wait there is more.....


Labor Participation Rate Drops To 36 Year Low; Record 92.6 Million Americans Not In Labor Force

While by now everyone should know the answer, for those curious why the US unemployment rate just slid once more to a meager 5.9%, the lowest print since the summer of 2008, the answer is the same one we have shown every month since 2010: the collapse in the labor force participation rate, which in September slid from an already three decade low 62.8% to 62.7% - the lowest in over 36 years, matching the February 1978 lows. And while according to the Household Survey, 232,000 people found jobs, what is more disturbing is that the people not in the labor force, rose to a new record high, increasing by 315,000 to 92.6 million!


Link Posted: 10/3/2014 8:55:35 AM EST
FBHO
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 8:57:39 AM EST
What a complete load of bullshit.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 8:58:48 AM EST
"Labor Participation Rate Drops To 36 Year Low; Record 92.6 Million Americans Not In Labor Force."

Link Posted: 10/3/2014 8:59:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2014 8:59:32 AM EST by warlord]
The .GOV and the liberal news media is trying to pump up the Dems chances for election. Talk about cooking the books.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:01:18 AM EST
There are lies...there are Damn lies...and then there are statistics!
-Mark Twain
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:01:46 AM EST
The news whores just state the numbers and rarely discuss the reality of these numbers.

Obama! Obama! Obama! Obama!
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:02:36 AM EST
BWHAHWHHAHAHWHAHHAHAHHWWWHAHAHWHAHAHAHHWHWHWH­HHHHAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!



Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:03:32 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By warlord:
The .GOV and the liberal news media is trying to pump up the Dems chances for election. Talk about cooking the books.
View Quote


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:05:59 AM EST
Why work when you can suck off the .gov tit?
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:08:52 AM EST
the figures spewed out by the .gov are a prime example of " figures don't lie " " but liars figure ".



Always some scheme to try to fool the masses.



gd
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:09:18 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Lexington:


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Lexington:
Originally Posted By warlord:
The .GOV and the liberal news media is trying to pump up the Dems chances for election. Talk about cooking the books.


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227
lol

Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:11:18 AM EST
Do we have the late Friday afternoon revision numbers yet?
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:13:01 AM EST
That 5.9% is the U3 "rose-colored-glasses" rate the politicians and their MSM leg-humpers love to tout. The more realistic U6 rate is 11.8%.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:14:57 AM EST
COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America.

ABBOTT: Good Subject. Terrible Times. It's 7.8%.

COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?

ABBOTT: No, that's 14.7%.

COSTELLO: You just said 7.8%.

ABBOTT: 7.8% Unemployed.

COSTELLO: Right 7.8% out of work.

ABBOTT: No, that's 14.7%.

COSTELLO: Okay, so it's 14.7% unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, that's 7.8%.

COSTELLO: WAIT A MINUTE. Is it 7.8% or 14.7%?

ABBOTT: 7.8% are unemployed. 14.7% are out of work.

COSTELLO: If you are out of work you are unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, Congress said you can't count the "Out of Work" as the unemployed.
You have to look for work to be unemployed.

COSTELLO: BUT THEY ARE OUT OF WORK!!!

ABBOTT: No, you miss his point.

COSTELLO: What point?

ABBOTT: Someone who doesn't look for work can't be counted with those who look
for work. It wouldn't be fair.

COSTELLO: To whom?

ABBOTT: The unemployed.

COSTELLO: But ALL of them are out of work.

ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work. Those who are out
of work gave up looking and if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of
the unemployed.

COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment rolls that would count as less
unemployment?

ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

ABBOTT: Absolutely it goes down. That's how they get it to 7.8%. Otherwise it
would be 14.7%. Our govt. doesn't want you to read about 14.7% unemployment.

COSTELLO: That would be tough on those running for reelection.

ABBOTT: Absolutely!

COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means there are two ways to
bring down the unemployment number?

ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.

COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?

ABBOTT: Correct.

COSTELLO: And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?

ABBOTT: Bingo.

COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down, and the easier of
the two is to have people stop looking for work.

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like an Economist.

COSTELLO: I don't even know what the hell I just said!

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like Congress.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:15:31 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Lexington:


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Lexington:
Originally Posted By warlord:
The .GOV and the liberal news media is trying to pump up the Dems chances for election. Talk about cooking the books.


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227



Out of that 92 million,how many are looking for employment rather than complaining that Republicans aren't giving them enough?

If more Americans WANTED to work there wouldn't be a need for cheap immigrant labor.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:17:02 AM EST
What did you expect when baby boomers began to retire?
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:17:02 AM EST
Well in all honesty the job openings in my town and the entire state over the last few months have increased greatly.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:20:18 AM EST
Firing on all cylinders....

About to throw a rod and be totaled is closer to the truth....

Good Lord, nearly everything we hear and see coming form the MSM and Gov anymore is pure BS. They can't even tell the truth about the simplest things; it's sickening...

Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:22:18 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Chokey:
FBHO
View Quote

Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:22:40 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Chokey:
FBHO
View Quote


FBHO
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:25:49 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By outofbattery:


If more Americans WANTED to work there wouldn't be a need for cheap immigrant labor.

View Quote




If you make 42k a year in welfare benefits (includes insurance/housing/food/clothes/gas/phone/etc.) WHY would you want to work for $10.00 hr. with no benefits? (21k yr.)

Sometimes employers can't compete with the Gov.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:26:37 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By outofbattery:



Out of that 92 million,how many are looking for employment rather than complaining that Republicans aren't giving them enough?

If more Americans WANTED to work there wouldn't be a need for cheap immigrant labor.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By outofbattery:
Originally Posted By Lexington:
Originally Posted By warlord:
The .GOV and the liberal news media is trying to pump up the Dems chances for election. Talk about cooking the books.


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227



Out of that 92 million,how many are looking for employment rather than complaining that Republicans aren't giving them enough?

If more Americans WANTED to work there wouldn't be a need for cheap immigrant labor.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


Throw out as many as you think don't belong in the count, and there will still be tens of millions of righteous decent people who vote. That's a lot of pissed of people.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:28:12 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Trueweltall:
What a complete load of bull----.
View Quote
this!
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:29:16 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Balforin:
COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America.

ABBOTT: Good Subject. Terrible Times. It's 7.8%.

COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?

ABBOTT: No, that's 14.7%.

COSTELLO: You just said 7.8%.

ABBOTT: 7.8% Unemployed.

COSTELLO: Right 7.8% out of work.

ABBOTT: No, that's 14.7%.

COSTELLO: Okay, so it's 14.7% unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, that's 7.8%.

COSTELLO: WAIT A MINUTE. Is it 7.8% or 14.7%?

ABBOTT: 7.8% are unemployed. 14.7% are out of work.

COSTELLO: If you are out of work you are unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, Congress said you can't count the "Out of Work" as the unemployed.
You have to look for work to be unemployed.

COSTELLO: BUT THEY ARE OUT OF WORK!!!

ABBOTT: No, you miss his point.

COSTELLO: What point?

ABBOTT: Someone who doesn't look for work can't be counted with those who look
for work. It wouldn't be fair.

COSTELLO: To whom?

ABBOTT: The unemployed.

COSTELLO: But ALL of them are out of work.

ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work. Those who are out
of work gave up looking and if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of
the unemployed.

COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment rolls that would count as less
unemployment?

ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

ABBOTT: Absolutely it goes down. That's how they get it to 7.8%. Otherwise it
would be 14.7%. Our govt. doesn't want you to read about 14.7% unemployment.

COSTELLO: That would be tough on those running for reelection.

ABBOTT: Absolutely!

COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means there are two ways to
bring down the unemployment number?

ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.

COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?

ABBOTT: Correct.

COSTELLO: And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?

ABBOTT: Bingo.

COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down, and the easier of
the two is to have people stop looking for work.

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like an Economist.

COSTELLO: I don't even know what the hell I just said!

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like Congress.
View Quote



Sad but true.


Fbho
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:30:16 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:30:23 AM EST
They always doctor up the numbers right before an election and then revise the numbers after it is over.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:33:47 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:35:20 AM EST
Does this 62.8% rate consist of a certain age group of eligible workers? Or is it a percentage of our total population.

Probably a really stupid question but I would think that with 92 million of the working age population out of work that 63% participation rate would be significantly lower.

In short, I'm saying that I find it hard to believe that we have 250 million people of working age in our country of 315 million.

Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:35:21 AM EST
The real question is whether the decrease in labor force participation is driven by retiring baby boomers or by people getting depressed and dropping out of the labor force due to an inability to find jobs.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:38:28 AM EST
And there are a lot of stupid people that will believe the headlines of 5.9% unemployment and think everything is all hunky doory and pull the lever for D.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:39:36 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By NHTriumph:
Does this 62.8% rate consist of a certain age group of eligible workers? Or is it a percentage of our total population.

Probably a really stupid question but I would think that with 92 million of the working age population out of work that 63% participation rate would be significantly lower.

In short, I'm saying that I find it hard to believe that we have 250 million people of working age in our country of 315 million.

View Quote
The labor force is everyone who is employed or unemployed.
An unemployed person is defined as someone who is actively looking for work.

unemployment rate = (# unemployed)/(# in labor force).

labor force participation rate = (# in labor force)/(working age population).

If an unemployed person gets depressed and stops looking for a job, both the unemployment rate and the labor force participation rate go down. If someone retires both go down.


Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:39:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2014 9:40:38 AM EST by xviperx420]
I have a question. Does that 92 million include ONLY people of working age? Or does it also include children and elderly?

edit: Nm. It's 16 years and older.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:40:57 AM EST
Still about 10% here according to GA DOL.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:41:06 AM EST
Dept. of labor lying as usual, prior to ellections.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:44:41 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Coltman77:
"Labor Participation Rate Drops To 36 Year Low; Record 92.6 Million Americans Not In Labor Force."

View Quote

how much of that is due to the boomers (the largets section of our population) reaching retirement age?


Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:45:26 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
The labor force is everyone who is employed or unemployed. An unemployed person is defined as someone who is actively looking for work.

unemployment rate = (# unemployed)/(# in labor force).

labor force participation rate = (# in labor force)/(working age population).

If an unemployed person gets depressed and stops looking for a job, both the unemployment rate and the labor force participation rate go down. If someone retires both go down.


View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
Originally Posted By NHTriumph:
Does this 62.8% rate consist of a certain age group of eligible workers? Or is it a percentage of our total population.

Probably a really stupid question but I would think that with 92 million of the working age population out of work that 63% participation rate would be significantly lower.

In short, I'm saying that I find it hard to believe that we have 250 million people of working age in our country of 315 million.

The labor force is everyone who is employed or unemployed. An unemployed person is defined as someone who is actively looking for work.

unemployment rate = (# unemployed)/(# in labor force).

labor force participation rate = (# in labor force)/(working age population).

If an unemployed person gets depressed and stops looking for a job, both the unemployment rate and the labor force participation rate go down. If someone retires both go down.




Yes, I understand this. What I was saying is how can 93 million out of work people only add up to 36% of eligible workers in our country.

The number of people between 16-65 is seriously 250 million out of the total of 315 million?
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:47:08 AM EST
Arent there like 20+ more million people on wellfare as well?
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:47:23 AM EST
Even among the employed, there are a lot of people that are working part time. Also, Obama, and his ilk, are happy with the low labor participation rate; that means more people become dependent on government handouts. Therefore more Democrat voters!
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:48:53 AM EST
Displacement on demand. LOL!
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 9:54:14 AM EST
Convenient they just spit those numbers out right before O made a speech on the economy...BULLSHIT...Rush pointed out a while back how many times they make these great announcements about how good the economy is doing and how many people got jobs this month or how this last quarters production or GDP was up...and then 100% of the time they down grade their assessment...its all BULLSHIT..

FBHOATHHRIO.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 10:02:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 10:09:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2014 10:10:51 AM EST by Bushamster21]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Coltman77:
"Labor Participation Rate Drops To 36 Year Low; Record 92.6 Million Americans Not In Labor Force."

View Quote


Ummm.... we have a population of 315 million people. That's around 30% of Americans not in the workforce. How many of those are kids or adolescents? I would expect that number to grow as the population of the United States increases overtime.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 10:13:36 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Bushamster21:


Ummm.... we have a population of 400 million people. That's almost 25% of Americans not in the workforce. How many of those are kids or adolescents? I would expect that number to grow as the population of the United States increases overtime.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Bushamster21:
Originally Posted By Coltman77:
"Labor Participation Rate Drops To 36 Year Low; Record 92.6 Million Americans Not In Labor Force."



Ummm.... we have a population of 400 million people. That's almost 25% of Americans not in the workforce. How many of those are kids or adolescents? I would expect that number to grow as the population of the United States increases overtime.
The percentage is the key.

About 1 in 20 workers dropped out of the labor force from 2008 thru 2009. That drop wasn't because of kids and adolescents.

Link Posted: 10/3/2014 10:46:06 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By bakkbakk:
lol

View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By bakkbakk:
Originally Posted By Lexington:
Originally Posted By warlord:
The .GOV and the liberal news media is trying to pump up the Dems chances for election. Talk about cooking the books.


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227
lol




Not when half of them are getting a check. Why would they vote to cut off their own sugar?

Food stamp enrollments have remained over 47 million for an unprecedented 13 consecutive months.
According to the most recent figures available from the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), which oversees the food stamp program, in August 2012, 47,102,765 individuals were enrolled in the program, known officially as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Enrollments never fell below 47 million in subsequent months and as of August 2013 stood at 47,665,069, representing nearly one out of every seven people in America.
Recent years have seen an explosion in food stamp enrollments. Since January 2009, the number of individuals on food stamps has skyrocketed from 31.9 million to 47.6 million.


2013 article

Link Posted: 10/3/2014 10:48:29 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Paul:


No. I think that the vast majority of those 92 million are kissing the ring of the hand that's feeding them, giving them welfare, giving them section eight, an EBT card, a cell phone, free medical .... rather than getting off their asses and contributing to society.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Paul:
Originally Posted By Lexington:
Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227


No. I think that the vast majority of those 92 million are kissing the ring of the hand that's feeding them, giving them welfare, giving them section eight, an EBT card, a cell phone, free medical .... rather than getting off their asses and contributing to society.


I know plenty of real otherwise-hard-working people who are hurting. Work is hard to find especially in the over-50 age group, where people should be pulling down the maximum money as they prepare for retirement. Many others are under-employed, even in the blue collar group.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 10:50:23 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Lexington:


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Lexington:
Originally Posted By warlord:
The .GOV and the liberal news media is trying to pump up the Dems chances for election. Talk about cooking the books.


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227
What percent of those "awakened"people do you think awoke to the bullshit reality, and what percent of people awoke to feebee addiction?
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 10:51:16 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
The real question is whether the decrease in labor force participation is driven by retiring baby boomers or by people getting depressed and dropping out of the labor force due to an inability to find jobs.
View Quote


If it was the baby boomer explanation, then employers would have to raise wages to compete for remaining workers. Even though boomers retire, they still eat, breathe, and consume. Goods and services still need to be produced for them, too.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 10:57:21 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By captainpooby:


Not when half of them are getting a check. Why would they vote to cut off their own sugar?

2013 article

View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Originally Posted By bakkbakk:
Originally Posted By Lexington:
Originally Posted By warlord:
The .GOV and the liberal news media is trying to pump up the Dems chances for election. Talk about cooking the books.


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227
lol



Not when half of them are getting a check. Why would they vote to cut off their own sugar?

2013 article



Even I got unemployment for three months this year. $340 a week is no incentive for me to stay home when I have a family of four and one kid going to college next year. While there are a percentage who would vote to keep their bennies, there are a lot more who would rather work for a competitive wage. They would vote to right the ship. Guaranteed.

Y'all have to stop believing that the slightest amount of "sugar" is satisfying.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 11:04:08 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By AndrewS:
What did you expect when baby boomers began to retire?
View Quote

Logan's run.
Link Posted: 10/3/2014 11:23:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2014 11:24:18 AM EST by basselope22]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Lexington:


Even I got unemployment for three months this year. $340 a week is no incentive for me to stay home when I have a family of four and one kid going to college next year. While there are a percentage who would vote to keep their bennies, there are a lot more who would rather work for a competitive wage. They would vote to right the ship. Guaranteed.

Y'all have to stop believing that the slightest amount of "sugar" is satisfying.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Lexington:
Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Originally Posted By bakkbakk:
Originally Posted By Lexington:
Originally Posted By warlord:
The .GOV and the liberal news media is trying to pump up the Dems chances for election. Talk about cooking the books.


Except there are at least 92 million people who know better. Reality has a way of cutting through the hype.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15227
lol



Not when half of them are getting a check. Why would they vote to cut off their own sugar?

2013 article



Even I got unemployment for three months this year. $340 a week is no incentive for me to stay home when I have a family of four and one kid going to college next year. While there are a percentage who would vote to keep their bennies, there are a lot more who would rather work for a competitive wage. They would vote to right the ship. Guaranteed.

Y'all have to stop believing that the slightest amount of "sugar" is satisfying.


That is highly dependent on your lifestyle/upbringing/values/etc. For someone who is lazy, ignorant and doesn't give a shit about themselves or their children, it doesn't take much "sugar" to entice them out of the normal adult obligations that most of us pursue.

Several hundred dollars a week, food stamps, a cell phone, section 8 housing, and medical care is a pretty sweet offer vs. working 50 hours a week at a minimum wage job with reduced handouts. I don't see the typical multi-generational welfare individual waking up one day and suddenly saying "this is bullshit, I should support my family on my own!"
Arrow Left Previous Page
Page / 2
Top Top