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Posted: 12/1/2007 12:34:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:35:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:36:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 12:36:51 PM EDT by spork]
The 'nos' are getting owned.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:38:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 12:39:17 PM EDT by SkilletsUSMC]

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Do not hotlink polls, make it cold.


And dont quote his post either.

Hit on the poll! Its a blood bath for the goodguys!!!
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:38:06 PM EDT
You have been a member for 7 years a you still don't know not to hotlink to polls?


And this polls has been getting spanked by us since it started.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:38:37 PM EDT
That poll is like 19000 to 2 or something like that.

At least until it gets posted on an anti website.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:06:06 PM EDT
The bottom line is that the meaning and intent of the Second Amendment aren't dependent on opinion polls. What I think means nothing compared to the thoughts of the men who wrote it.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:07:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 2:09:16 PM EDT by PantherArms762]
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/11/beat-the-high-c.html
blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/11/beat-the-high-c.html

ETA: Dupe, but carry on.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:08:37 PM EDT
98% to 1%
1% UNDECIDED
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:08:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By giacutter:
That poll is like 19000 to 2 or something like that.

At least until it gets posted on an anti website.


98-1%

Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:10:53 PM EDT
I think we are gonna win this one.

-Ben
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:17:21 PM EDT
Wow, easily the most lopsided vote in our favor I've seen!
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:22:10 PM EDT
Hit.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:24:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 2:24:56 PM EDT by NME]
Un-hotlink that shit.



Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:25:49 PM EDT
um shouldnt the link be cold?
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:29:29 PM EDT
The poll is NOT a direct link. You have to click a second time to get to the actual poll, so it's probably OK to leave that link up in this case.


99% for us. Nice knockout punch in progress!


CJ
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:30:25 PM EDT
98% Yes
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:32:13 PM EDT
The 2nd amendment does NOT give individuals the right to bear arms, jackasses.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:34:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By badfish274:
The 2nd amendment does NOT give individuals the right to bear arms, jackasses.


Ya, it recognizes it...but don't get too mired in the details. It's USA today, not a libertarian think tank. 98% is a pretty good showing, semantics aside.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:39:47 PM EDT
Hit it, and you need to un hot link it.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:41:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Brohawk:
The bottom line is that the meaning and intent of the Second Amendment aren't dependent on opinion polls. What I think means nothing compared to the thoughts of the men who wrote it.


You're right, of course, but the fact is that laws often get passed based on public opinion, so it's important to know which way the wind is blowing. However, I'm afraid the results (so far) of this particular poll don't accurately reflect current public opinion.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:44:21 PM EDT
98%

1%

19359 votes
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:56:33 PM EDT
98% Yes
1% No

19419 votes
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:02:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By badfish274:
The 2nd amendment does NOT give individuals the right to bear arms, jackasses.


Ya, it recognizes it...but don't get too mired in the details. It's USA today, not a libertarian think tank. 98% is a pretty good showing, semantics aside.


I set my rhetorical trap, and you come along and ruin it.



Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:08:01 PM EDT

98% yes
1% no
0 undecided


I wonder what the missing one percent will vote
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:10:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 50-140:
98% yes
1% no
0 undecided


I wonder what the missing one percent will vote


I wonder if USA Today will actually print this poll...
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:12:40 PM EDT
98% Yes
1% No
0% Undecided
19472

Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:12:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By badfish274:

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By badfish274:
The 2nd amendment does NOT give individuals the right to bear arms, jackasses.


Ya, it recognizes it...but don't get too mired in the details. It's USA today, not a libertarian think tank. 98% is a pretty good showing, semantics aside.


I set my rhetorical trap, and you come along and ruin it.





Oops! Sorry about that.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:14:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 3:18:02 PM EDT by menof2amendment]
Socialist magazine seeking fact based on concenus of opinion. Nothing could be further from the truth. Polls following such questions says ALOT about the persons conducting the poll.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:23:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By absael:

Originally Posted By Brohawk:
The bottom line is that the meaning and intent of the Second Amendment aren't dependent on opinion polls. What I think means nothing compared to the thoughts of the men who wrote it.


You're right, of course, but the fact is that laws often get passed based on public opinion, so it's important to know which way the wind is blowing. However, I'm afraid the results (so far) of this particular poll don't accurately reflect current public opinion.


It's true that online polls don't accurately reflect public opinion. Nevertheless, this a major public site (USA Today) and there are almost 20,000 votes, with only 1% against. In addition, this poll looks like it's been up since Nov. 21st. IMHO, those numbers do suggest something. If it's been up that long and enough gun sites have posted it long enough to hit 20k votes, you'd think some lib/anti sites would have spammed it too. Even if it's not an accurate representation of the population, it sure looks like we have greater numbers and more passion then anti-gunners.

IMHO, there are very few really passionate anti-gunners still around (ordinary people, not politicians and media people). I think that the passion is almost all on the gun rights side, and gun control is more like a vauge idea in the heads of fairly large numbers of people. They may vote for it if all the information they get is what the MSM spews out, but they won't phone their congressmen, tell their friends to vote for it, set up protests, join and fund organizations, etc like we do.

Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:23:57 PM EDT
In other words: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" really means "the right of the Government to keep and bear arms..."

Thank goodness we have this amendment protecting the right of the Army to have guns! Otherwise Congress would be sending troops into combat armed with Jelly Doughnuts!

As it's been pointed out, the amendment prohibits the infringement of our right. It doesn't "give" us the right. It was argued that the Constitution didn't give the new government the power to infringe on anybody's rights, so the Bill of Rights was not necessary, even counter productive (people might assume that rights that weren't specifically mentioned were not protected.)

However, the way things have gone over the last 200 years I'm glad we have the extra protection afforded by the Bill of Rights. Perhaps the author's only mistake was not assuming future generations would be full of disingenuous liars that would try to argue what the meaning of "is" is.

Link Posted: 12/1/2007 3:25:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 50-140:
98% yes
1% no
0 undecided


I wonder what the missing one percent will vote


"Only if they aren't scary and black" maybe?

It's probably something like:
98.3% yes
1.3% no
0.4% undecided

and they rounded them
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