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Posted: 9/23/2004 1:54:52 PM EST
On fourfourmagstore.com, I saw some 30rd USA Mag Glock magazines for sale, for $18 and $20.

Now, I have heard some bad things about USA Magazines, I mean, HORRIBLE things... Do they ring true? Is it cheap shit? Bad quality control?

I don't care if the mag is $20, I don't want to have to break out the Dremel, file, or any other things in order to get it to feed.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 1:55:15 PM EST
PIECES OF SHIT, DO NOT BUY USA MAGS
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 1:55:41 PM EST
SHIT....NO PURE SHIT....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RUN AWAY!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 1:57:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By peekay:
PIECES OF SHIT, DO NOT BUY USA MAGS



+1

Bought one for my G17 at a gun show on a lark, tried it & threw it away. Junk. Scott
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 1:59:27 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:00:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By peekay:
PIECES OF SHIT, DO NOT BUY USA MAGS



+1
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:02:18 PM EST
That's a lot of money to pay for a target.....
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:04:26 PM EST
Considering you can get NIW GI mags for $11 why would you buy USA?

This thread is worthless without a poll.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:09:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/23/2004 2:10:52 PM EST by Sturmwehr]
Duly noted. USA Mags will be avoided and not purchased. Thanks for giving me the straight facts, guys. [insert thumbs up icon here... but, I don't know how to do it]


Originally Posted By dport:
Considering you can get NIW GI mags for $11 why would you buy USA?



Why the fuck would I want GI mags?

I don't own an AR.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:10:52 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:11:24 PM EST
These mags suck....hands down....money spent on them might as well be used to wipe your ass.
I will bet you the price of the mags that they wont feed properly, will cause jams, and wont lock open the bolt on the last shot.

Oh, and they suck too.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:15:03 PM EST
Definitely CHEAP CRAP.

Put your money somewhere more useful, like burning in your fireplace for heat.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:15:07 PM EST
I have found exactly one good use for a USA mag. It makes a great lower receiver vice block after you fill it with epoxy. Otherwise, total shit.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:20:12 PM EST
USA Mags are 100 % worthless
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:26:31 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:30:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sturmwehr:
Why the fuck would I want GI mags?

I don't own an AR.



Well you could do what I did. I bought the magazines and then told the wife they were useless if I didn't buy the gun. Now I have two.

I read somewhere that Ivanhoes outlet has a good deal on Glock mags. If they're in stock. I think it was like $16, shipped. I don't think it is on their website yet.

Top Glock has them for $19.99, again if they're in stock. I don't think that includes shipping.

Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:31:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By peekay:
PIECES OF SHIT, DO NOT BUY USA MAGS




Reason #1 why your AR15 isn't working.



who's ar15? both of them work just fine
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:35:57 PM EST
bought one..

after TRYING to go thru the first mag.. I threw it away..



run..
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:39:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:39:19 PM EST
I had some for an AR and later sold the pair for $5, clearly marked as a "Novelty Item".

I can't imagine their pistol mags being any better as all of their rifle mags AR, SKS, AK, Mini-14, M1A seem to suck shit through a tube.

YMMV.

Sly
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:41:11 PM EST
I got a dozen 20's (cut down 30's actually, they hold about 22 rounds). All work great, and one won't drop freely, nor will it operate the bolt-hold-open in my Bushmaster M17s. Averall I think they're nice mags (esp. considering that we got 12 of em for $50). I hear the 30's with the regular followers (cutdowns use 20 internals) can't feed right.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:43:58 PM EST
my USA 30 round ar15 mags function flawlessly. I did add green followers to them
that said, I rarely use them, and recently bought 8 additional USGI NIW mags to add to my inventory, but that's mainly due to USGI ones weighing less
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:44:44 PM EST
I got a bunch when I was younger and didn't know any better . I had two for a Ruger P95 . I ran about 5K of rounds thru them with out a hic up .
I had a few 30's for my SKS . I ran about three cases thru them wit out a problem . BUT there is one funny thing about the SKS ones . One day I discovered that they could hold 38 rounds if I pushed hard enough .
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:53:44 PM EST
Do not waste your $$ on them.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:57:51 PM EST


SHIT, SHIT AND DOUBLE SHIT

Link Posted: 9/23/2004 3:00:00 PM EST
Oh, and stay the fuck away from USA AK and SKS mags, they REALLY, and I do mean REALLY suck.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 3:04:19 PM EST
Total "chit"
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 3:12:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 3:24:02 PM EST
[crowd chanting] USA! USA! USA! USA![/crowd chanting]
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 3:27:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/23/2004 3:30:10 PM EST by Thunderbolt]
USA mags are CRAP!

dont let the name fool you, they try and make you think your getting high quality made in the good old USA but there not.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 5:53:15 PM EST
Universally regarded as trash.

Worse than marketing junk, worse than taking your money for nothing, those irresponsible vendors could kill an unsuspecting person who might attempt to use their unreliable magazines in a defensive arm.

Link Posted: 9/23/2004 5:57:27 PM EST
Got two of them free when i puchased my two AR's, the ONLY thing i use them for is to block the Mag wells to keep dust out of my gun during storage!
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 6:40:31 PM EST
Crap.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 6:41:19 PM EST
With the AWB gone, why are you even asking this question?
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 6:41:26 PM EST
I thought my Oly was a Jam-O-Matic.

until I ditched the USAs and got me some genuine GI mags.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 6:43:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2004 7:56:15 AM EST by JohnTheTexican]
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 6:45:04 PM EST
USA mags...I say buy em and give them to someone you don't like.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 3:05:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By clean_cut:
With the AWB gone, why are you even asking this question?



Because mag prices aren't going to drop that much.

Hell, non-factory Glock 31/33rd 9x19 mags still cost me $40-$60 (Scherer or whatever and the knock-offs).

Perhaps in 2-3 months I'll be able to pick up reasonable priced mags, but right now, I haven't seen any really good deals.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 3:17:37 AM EST
I bought a dozen USA AR mags a few years ago. I use them for the range. They have mostly worked OK for the range. In fact I don't ever remember having any trouble with them. I have saved my GI mags during the ban by using the USA mags. Now that the ban is over and soon GI mags will be plentiful, I will use my USA mags as targets. In other words they have served a useful pupose but now it is time to go.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 3:44:05 AM EST
A long time ago, I was working on a team reviewing various magazines. All sorts of manufacturers sent in stuff to be evaluated. USA did not wish to participate. The only one, I might add. Wonder why?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 5:39:17 AM EST
how can a company screw mags up so badly? it's not as if they must be machined to swiss chronograph standards...what makes these mages so crappy? springs? followers? mag bodies? everything? if you had a bunch of USA mags could you buy new springs, followers and magpul floorplates and resurrect them or is that simply throwing good money after bad?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 5:39:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2004 5:40:38 AM EST by Bartholomew_Roberts]
I actually have one USA mag for my AR and one for my Hi-Power. USA mags do suck, though not to the extent everyone here suggests.

In the AR, a new follower and a spring will be necessary to make the mag feed (assuming your mag body is in spec which isn't a guarantee). Also the steel USA makes their mags out of deforms like soft butter.

In the Hi-Power, the mag has actually fed reliably out of the wrap but doesn't drop free and doesn't hold open the slide. In addition, it took about 600 rounds of 115gr FMJ target loads to batter the snot out of the soft steel, enlarge the mag catch hole and crack the feedlips.

I wouldn't spend my money on USA mags; but if you get one as a gift you can probably salvage it. For the absolute lowest rung of crap in budget mags, I nominate Triple K.

I haven't used their AR mags; but their Hi-Power mags are actually Beretta 92 mags that have been cut down. I've never seen one yet that didn't require major dremel work to make it functional and I've seen several that were still completely useless even after that.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 5:46:24 AM EST
Had a couple of 10 rounders for my Ruger P95. Neither would feed more than one round, with any type of ammo. I gave 'em away.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 5:49:42 AM EST
crapola
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 6:08:03 AM EST
10 years ago, I bought two AR mags and two Glock mags. While I was waiting for them to be shipped I started hearing a ton of negative stuff about how bad they were. I figured it was hype and the mags couldn't be that bad, how else do they stay in business?

I got the mags and I was absolutely amazed. Not one...not two...not three...but all the mags had feeding issues...while all my other mags from other manufacturers worked flawlessly. I figured the USA mags would simply be range mags as they couldn't be trusted for dangerous situations. But even that plan didn't work out, the USA mags I got were so problematic, they weren't even worth it at the range. By this time the AWB was started. I paid more for some USGI's for the AR and then I simply went to 10-round Glock mags for the range as the 17-round USA Glock mags weren't worth the trouble.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 6:10:36 AM EST
If you happen to have a few around, the MagPul followers and some G.I. springs will do wonders for them.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:46:43 AM EST
Waste of perfectly good sheetmetal.

Unless you're into failure drills.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:55:49 AM EST
I wound up with five of the damn things back in 1995. I had something like 15 of them and returned 10 for a refund that I never got so they wound up costing me something like $18 a pop. Living in New York, the only purpose I can see for them is using them to prove I had five legal pre-bans so I can "repair" them by building five replacements and just keeping the shell around as proof.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:01:11 AM EST
Why for the love of God would you buy USA mags now that the ban is dead? BUY OEM for cryin out loud!
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 11:55:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By BB:
Why for the love of God would you buy USA mags now that the ban is dead? BUY OEM for cryin out loud!






Originally Posted By:
With the AWB gone, why are you even asking this question?



Because mag prices aren't going to drop that much.

Hell, non-factory Glock 31/33rd 9x19 mags still cost me $40-$60 (Scherer or whatever and the knock-offs).

Perhaps in 2-3 months I'll be able to pick up reasonable priced mags, but right now, I haven't seen any really good deals.



So, ban ends and Glock 18 mags drop by $85? Nope.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 12:12:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By Aardvark:
I wound up with five of the damn things back in 1995. I had something like 15 of them and returned 10 for a refund that I never got so they wound up costing me something like $18 a pop. Living in New York, the only purpose I can see for them is using them to prove I had five legal pre-bans so I can "repair" them by building five replacements and just keeping the shell around as proof.



would it help you if I sent you two more? I paid an embarassing sum for two of them before I knew any better... if you cover the shipping I'll send them to you or someone else living in a hi-cap mag ban state provided that doing so is in compliance with your local laws.
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