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Are they so bored that they have time to fix shit that isn't broken?
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damn, I'm going to have to get stripes sewed on my lightweight blue jacket
ETA, hmmm wtf the fleece thing I was given is black, WTF am I supposed to do with that |
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FUCK having to tuck my pants
Eta, also we can talk on a cell phone now when walking, but still can't drink and walk Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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The Air Force has decided to let airmen where fleece jackets... Seriously? |
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it looks like that fleece has the fuzzy part on the inside too
the only thing I hate about my 5.11 fleece jacket and most other fleece jackets I've seen is that it's smooth nylon on the inside so it doesn't really do much for warmth |
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Good grief... those look like plastic GI Joe boots. WTF?
I don't mind the sage suede boots for looks but... damn. Those new ones look like ass. |
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That boot really looks like crap. I am still wearing my desert boots I got issued back in 98 because I can't stand the sage boots. And the fleece...really? I don't think the fleece should be an outer garment outside of your immediate work area. If you are cold or are going to get wet while outside, wear the freaking jacket. Tucking trousers into your boots? Mine have so much extra material in the legs that there would not be enough room in the boot, plus it looks like crap (IMO) when they are tucked in for normal day to day wear. Field conditions, sure.
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Fleece as outerwear is a welcome change.
Mandating tucking trousers into boots in garrison is lame. On the boots, is Kiwi going to make green boot polish now? |
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awesome green Ronald McDonald shoes guys, way to go.
Honestly the whole uniform thing, for all services, is completely fucked. My soldiers have boots soley for the motor pool now because the flesh-out suede soaks up oils like a sponge. Ditto the ACU, the fleece, the fluffy extreme cold weather jacket, all that crap is TERRIBLE for hiding dirt. But guess what, it sure looks snappy right out of the clothing and sales, and as is typical, the actual costs of the solution are borne at the lowest level... |
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the fleece looks cool, but those boots
I'm in the Maintenance field and yes my current grren ABU boots are more black than green, but those those things look horrible. tucking in the boots, IMHO thats gay, I had no problem using blousing straps. |
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kiwi already has burgandy and blue
they might even have green and I just haven't found it yet |
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Wow that looks like ASS!!! agreed Yup. No offense, but having worked for an AF agency for a year, you guys are all dicked up when it comes to uniforms. |
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Gh-ey!
Especially the 'you will now shine your GREEN boots' crap that will undoubtedly come forward, from a force that didn't figure out that the POINT of suede boots is to NOT clean them! |
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Well, it's good that leaders are listening to our feedback.
On the other hand, I don't think it's a good idea to mandate tucking the trousers into the boots. I can see why people would want to, but I personally hate the way it looks & feels when I do it. |
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I will never understand why the AF didn't just take the ABU's and use them. they spent a lot of money researching some stupid patterns and designs and ended up with an Army knock off anyway.
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Quoted: Well, it's good that leaders are listening to our feedback. On the other hand, I don't think it's a good idea to mandate tucking the trousers into the boots. I can see why people would want to, but I personally hate the way it looks & feels when I do it. I don't know about the AF, but it makes sense for the Army in terms of field-craft & keeping critters out of your pant legs... |
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Well, it's good that leaders are listening to our feedback. On the other hand, I don't think it's a good idea to mandate tucking the trousers into the boots. I can see why people would want to, but I personally hate the way it looks & feels when I do it. I guess I'll have to go and buy bigger boots so that I can fit my pants into the damn things. WTF did they think was wrong with blousing straps? |
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Marine corps still has it straight on uniforms, don't know about ya'll.
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Gay boots, and why not a regular black fleece? You mean the ones that are already in the supply system and almost everyone already has issued? We surely can't use that black fleece jacket. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Gay boots, and why not a regular black fleece? You mean the ones that are already in the supply system and almost everyone already has issued? We surely can't use that black fleece jacket. That green fleece is also in the supply system... It's issued by the Army now, or at least to Army Aviation... My unit got them while downrange... Supposedly more fire-safe than the black ones... |
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I know I speak for myself and all of my coworkers when I say you can have my blousing straps when you pry them from my cold dead fingers. There's no way in hell I'm tucking my pants into my boots. It looks like total dogshit and it's uncomfortable as well. The AF is just going to have to live with one less lazy ass slob.
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Where'd you get this info? Everything I've read said that tucking your pants into your boots was effective immediately not 1 Oct '10.
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Two years ago, I really should have hung up my AF uniform and just called it a career.
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Quoted: I know I speak for myself and all of my coworkers when I say you can have my blousing straps when you pry them from my cold dead fingers. There's no way in hell I'm tucking my pants into my boots. It looks like total dogshit and it's uncomfortable as well. The AF is just going to have to live with one less lazy ass slob. I couldn't have said it better myself! |
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Chalk up yet another reason why I'm glad I get to wear a flightsuit to work - even on Mondays.;)
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Gh-ey! Especially the 'you will now shine your GREEN boots' crap that will undoubtedly come forward, from a force that didn't figure out that the POINT of suede boots is to NOT clean them! Course sandpaper or a stiff brush-works great. I have to wonder about sage-colored boots, though (as in, would excessively stiff brushes or too much sandpaper wear away the sage colored dye in the leather?) . Might be easier to just go with coyote brown. Rough-out leather is the only way to go. It just bewilders me that anyone would want to go back to polishing a fucking boot. |
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Quoted: It just bewilders me that anyone would want to go back to polishing a fucking boot. Yeah fuck that!!! |
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Well, it's good that leaders are listening to our feedback. On the other hand, I don't think it's a good idea to mandate tucking the trousers into the boots. I can see why people would want to, but I personally hate the way it looks & feels when I do it. I don't know about the AF, but it makes sense for the Army in terms of field-craft & keeping critters out of your pant legs... It's more fun to overcomplicate things and then convince yourself you are better than the Army for doing so. I still laugh when I see Marines with helmet bands. For years I remember them making fun of the Army for having them. Same with name tapes on uniforms. It's like they are afraid to adopt a good idea that was not thought of internally. |
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Well, it's good that leaders are listening to our feedback. On the other hand, I don't think it's a good idea to mandate tucking the trousers into the boots. I can see why people would want to, but I personally hate the way it looks & feels when I do it. I don't know about the AF, but it makes sense for the Army in terms of field-craft & keeping critters out of your pant legs... It's more fun to overcomplicate things and then convince yourself you are better than the Army for doing so. I still laugh when I see Marines with helmet bands. For years I remember them making fun of the Army for having them. Same with name tapes on uniforms. It's like they are afraid to adopt a good idea that was not thought of internally. The name tapes I (and many others) can do without. We got along quite well without them for the first eight or nine years of my career. Everyone has a name in the Marine Corps, and we wear it on our collars. The problem isn't the name tapes in and of themselves. It's the thought of some moron down the road thinking that hanging a bunch of shit on our uniform is a swell idea because everybody else does it. Fuck.That.Shit. Part of the problem was the "convict" look that resulted in Marines painting their last names on the backs of their cammie blouses (and cargo pocket flap of their trousers) when aboard ship for laundry purposes. I suppose "blame tapes" serve a purpose in that regard. Either way, I'm not going to worry about it. During Desert Shield / Desert Storm, the wearing of the desert "booney cover" created months of controversy over how it was to be properly worn (rolls eyes, shakes head). I agree with you about helmet bands. After the helmet bands became accepted, then it was the "cat eyes" that were verbotten. Marines are slow to change in some ways because of traditions that are so prominant in our service culture. It can be both a good and bad thing. |
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all the uniforms right now suck. i dont know what the military is thinking, i hate my ACUs, good idea poor execution. there needs to be one standard for everyone. i cant wait to see what the navy cooks up.
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It just bewilders me that anyone would want to go back to polishing a fucking boot. Yeah fuck that!!! No fucking shit! Someone might mistake you for some kind of seriously squared away military type! (YUK!!!) We can't have that now can we? |
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all the uniforms right now suck. i dont know what the military is thinking, i hate my ACUs, good idea poor execution. there needs to be one standard for everyone. i cant wait to see what the navy cooks up. Have you not seen the blue digital thing they have Navy Digital Camo |
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all the uniforms right now suck. i dont know what the military is thinking, i hate my ACUs, good idea poor execution. there needs to be one standard for everyone. i cant wait to see what the navy cooks up. Have you not seen the blue digital thing they have Navy Digital Camo |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It just bewilders me that anyone would want to go back to polishing a fucking boot. Yeah fuck that!!! No fucking shit! Someone might mistake you for some kind of seriously squared away military type! (YUK!!!) We can't have that now can we? The 'squared away military' appearance has changed so many times in history, why not let it change again? Finally wake up, and let form FOLLOW function, instead of the other way around! We have dress uniforms for 'look cool' events... Work uniforms should be wash & wear... Boots should be maintainance-free... Getting wrapped up in uniform appearance, beyond wearing it all & being in the right uniform, is the sort of garrison bullshit that leads to CSM PTBeltNazi types wandering around FOBs in Iraq looking for victims... |
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Oh, come the fuck on... again??
I'm glad we don't have a war, or some other pesky shit to worry about. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Gh-ey! Especially the 'you will now shine your GREEN boots' crap that will undoubtedly come forward, from a force that didn't figure out that the POINT of suede boots is to NOT clean them! Course sandpaper or a stiff brush-works great. I have to wonder about sage-colored boots, though (as in, would excessively stiff brushes or too much sandpaper wear away the sage colored dye in the leather?) . Might be easier to just go with coyote brown. Rough-out leather is the only way to go. It just bewilders me that anyone would want to go back to polishing a fucking boot. They still exist in the Army... Waahh... I miss the black boots... I miss BDUs... This is too easy... The funny thing is, before the Army wore black boots, IIRC, we were in rough-out brown ones... That said, at least we don't have the AF's Man-Love-ThursdayClass-A-Monday.... |
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...before the Army wore black boots, IIRC, we were in rough-out brown ones... I think they were brown, but not rough-out (I believe the Navy wore the same or similar boots too - One of my uncles used to bitch incessantly about having to shine engine-oiled boots) |
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