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Posted: 1/29/2006 4:29:41 PM EDT
Buoyed by its recent success in the food-for-oil program the un is proposing that it be made
the financial clearinghouse for a HUGE "economic development" program designed to save
money in the long run by transferring money from rich countries to poorer countries to avert
sufferring(and, allow third world dictators to keep driving blingmobiles) No checks, send CASH

UN unveils plan to release untapped wealth of...$7 trillion (and solve the world's problems at a stroke)
Philip Thornton, Economics Correspondent
January 30, 2006
news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article341967.ece
The most potent threats to life on earth - global warming, health pandemics, poverty and armed conflict - could be ended by moves that would unlock $7 trillion - $7,000,000,000,000 (£3.9trn) - of previously untapped wealth, the United Nations claims today.

The price? An admission that the nation-state is an old-fashioned concept that has no role to play in a modern globalised world where financial markets have to be harnessed rather than simply condemned.

In a groundbreaking move, the UN Development Programme (UNDP) has drawn up a visionary proposal that has been endorsed by a range of figures including Gordon Brown, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel Laureate.

It says an unprecedented outbreak of co-operation between countries, applied through six specific financial tools, would slice through the Gordian knot of problems that have bedevilled the world for most of the last century.

If its recommendations are accepted - and the authors acknowledge this could take years or even decades - it could finally force countries to face up to the fact that their public finance and growth figures conceal the vast damage their economies do to the environment.

At the heart of the proposal, unveiled at a gathering of world business leaders at the Swiss ski resort of Davos, is a push to get countries to account for the cost of failed policies, and use the money saved "up front" to avert crises before they hit. Top of the list is a challenge to the United States to join an international pollution permit trading system which, the UN claims, could deliver $3.64trn of global wealth.

Inge Kaul, a special adviser at the UNDP, said: "The way we run our economies today is vastly expensive and inefficient because we don't manage risk well and we don't prevent crises." She downplayed concerns over up-front costs and interest payments for the new-fangled financial devices. "The gains in terms of development would outweigh those costs. Money is wasted because we dribble aid, and the costs of not solving the problems are much, much higher than what we would have to pay for getting the financial markets to lend the money."

The UNDP is determined to ensure globalisation, which has generated vast wealth for multinational companies, benefits the poorest in society.

It urges politicians to embrace some groundbreaking schemes put in place in the past 12 months to tackle global warning, poverty and disease, based on working with the global markets to share out the risk.

These include a pilot international finance facility (IFF) to "front load" $4bn of cash for vaccines by borrowing money against pledges of future government aid.

The scheme, which is backed by the UK, France, Italy, Spain, Sweden and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, was born out of a proposal by Gordon Brown for a larger scheme to double the total aid budget to $100bn a year.

In an endorsement of the report, Mr Brown said: "This shows how we can equip people and countries for a new global economy that combined greater prosperity and fairness both within and across nations."

The UNDP says rich countries should build on this and go further. It proposes six schemes to harness the power of the markets:

* Reducing greenhouse gas emissions through pollution permit trading; net gain $3.64trn.

* Cutting poor countries' borrowing costs by securing the debts against the income from stable parts of their economies; net gain $2.90trn.

* Reducing government debt costs by linking payments to the country's economic output; net gain $600bn.

* An enlarged version of the vaccine scheme; net gain (including benefits of lower mortality) $47bn.

* Using the vast flow of money from migrants back to their home country to guarantee; net gain $31bn.

* Aid agencies underwriting loans to market investors to lower interest rates; net gain $22bn.

Professor Stiglitz, the former chief economist of the World Bank and a staunch critic of the way globalisation harms the poor, said: "Globalisation has meant the closer integration of countries, and that in turn has meant a greater need for collective action.

"One of the most important areas of failure is the environment. Without government intervention, firms and households have no incentive to limit their pollution." He said a global public finance system would force countries to acknowledge the external damage their policies had, "the most important being global climate change".

Solving the environmental crisis tops the UN's $7trn wish-list. It calls for an international market to trade pollution permits that would encourage rich countries to cut pollution and hit their targets under the Kyoto protocol.

But - and the UN admits it is a big "but" - the US would have to sign up to Kyoto and carbon trading to achieve the $3.64trn that it believes the system would deliver over time.

"We are dealing with a global problem as pollution can only be dealt with internationally," Ms Kaul said. Richard Sandor, the head of the Chicago Climate Exchange, added: "Many encouraging signs are emerging. When the business case is clear, private entrepreneurs step forward."

But, the proposal is unlikely to get support from some green groups who believe that action to curb consumption, rather than market incentives, are the way to reduce carbon emissions.

Andrew Simms, director of the New Economics Foundation, said it left unanswered questions over how these markets would be managed and how the benefits and costs would be distributed. "We have nothing against markets so it would be missing the point to get into a pro- or anti-market stance. The point is how you distribute the benefits."

He said the Nineties, the zenith decade for globalisation, had seen just 60 cents out of every $100 worth of growth reach the poorest in society, compared with the $2.20 in the Eighties.

He said a pollution trading regime had the potential to deliver "enormous" benefits to poor countries, but said the UN report failed to show a detailed plan.

"Our view is that you have to cap pollution, allocate permits and then you can trade. But it depends on how it is set up. Because you are dealing with a global commons of the atmosphere, the danger is that you could be effectively dealing in stolen goods."

He said a system set up now to trade in pollution permits could end up permanently depriving poor countries that joined the system further down the road.

International problems - and solutions

PANDEMIC DISEASES

Millions of people across the developing world have died from malaria, tuberculosis and HIV/Aids, as well as from other pandemics. Vaccines needed to avert them require much-needed investment.

SOLUTION: An advance commitment by rich countries to buy $3bn (£1.7bn) worth of vaccines would be enough to encourage pharmaceutical giants to invest in finding medicines that would eliminate these pandemics.

SAVING: $600bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: Vaccines are needed but more should be done in the meantime. Extra aid is needed for simple tools such as mosquito nets that would curb spread of malaria.

PARIAH STATES

Big business and global money ignore countries where they see the risk of conflict outweighing their potential profit margins.

SOLUTION: Guarantees by international organisations such as the International Monetary Fund to lower the cost of borrowing for poor nations by underwriting investors' loans to conflict-torn states.

SAVING: $22bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: Sometimes large volumes of cash are needed and this is one. Live8 showed there was huge support among taxpayers for higher aid to countries in distress.

Hitting a commitment made in the 1960s of 0.7 per cent of GDP would unlock $140bn a year.

NATIONAL BANKRUPTCY

Once great nations such as Brazil and Argentina were reduced to the status of beggars after poor economic policy combined with debts with national and international lenders.

SOLUTION: A system to enable countries to take loans linked to their average economic growth rate to ensure that they do not have to cut public spending to raise the money to borrow needed funds during the hard times.

SAVING: $600bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: A system to allow countries to seek protection from their creditors in the same way that US companies can take so-called Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

SPECULATIVE INVESTORS

Poor countries suffer most from swings in investment tastes by the big global investors that means money can leave as soon as it arrives.

SOLUTION: Enable countries to buy "insurance policies" against big swings in growth that would ensure that they did not have to cut public spending every time. In 1997 it wreaked havoc across South-east Asia.

SAVING: $2,900bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: Curb speculative investment by imposing a tax on foreign exchange transactions aimed at destabilising a currency. It could directly raise funds for development while preventing the worst excesses of the markets.

GLOBAL WARMING

Scientists believe human activity has led to climate change and disappearing Arctic ice. The world's poor also have to live with lethal storms and floods.

UN SOLUTION: A system of international trading in permits to allow pollution that would encourage countries to cut their emission of greenhouse gases so they can sell their "right to pollute" to other states. UNDP says it is more effective than just setting targets.

SAVING: $3,620bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: An international approach is needed but one that prevents people from causing harm by setting pollution targets rather than trying to bribe them not to. Also agree global airline tax.

BRAIN DRAIN

Millions of skilled workers leave their home countries every year in search of a better life in the West. In some states nine out 10 professionals have left.

SOLUTION: Enable countries to borrow on the open markets against the money workers send home. The capital would be used to invest in the country to build infrastructure that would discourage people from leaving.

SAVING: $31bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: An international code of ethical guidelines overseen by bodies such as the World Health Organisation (for doctors and nurses) to monitor the harm that migration of professionals causes.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:32:02 PM EDT
[#1]
Ummmm....no!
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:33:41 PM EDT
[#2]
They were trying to levy a tax on all international flights a couple of months ago, I guess this is just the next step
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:35:31 PM EDT
[#3]
UN.. blah blah blah...

Restrictions.. blah blah blah..

Fees and licenses.. blah blah blah..

UN federation.. blah blah blah..

Go fuck yourself.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:38:32 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
UN.. blah blah blah...

Restrictions.. blah blah blah..

Fees and licenses.. blah blah blah..

UN federation.. blah blah blah..

Go fuck yourself.



Heh, I think they are intending to fuck US...........

Can we eminent domain their building yet and put in something more valuable, like a petting zoo?
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:40:29 PM EDT
[#5]
Lemme guess- this seven trillion dollars is coming from the US, right?

What reason does the US have to remain in the UN? ANY whatsoever?
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:42:15 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
UN.. blah blah blah...

Restrictions.. blah blah blah..

Fees and licenses.. blah blah blah..

UN federation.. blah blah blah..

Go fuck yourself.



Heh, I think they are intending to fuck US...........

Can we eminent domain their building yet and put in something more valuable, like a petting zoo?brothel and see if anyone notices the difference?



Fixed.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:43:21 PM EDT
[#7]
I read the article...but i seem to have missed the part about them PAYING THEIR RENT!!
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:45:26 PM EDT
[#8]
I got guuuuuunnnnssssss! You got wefare burger!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:52:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Thats a load of shit.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:52:44 PM EDT
[#10]
Jesus Christ, almost every buzzword in that article roughly translated meant either, "United States, give us more money" or "Let's forget about the debt we owe you, USA".
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:54:36 PM EDT
[#11]
Where is China in all this???? What about all those petrodollars being created in Saudi and Iran - what, they aren't contributing to global pollution...Another punish the US scheme.... Kick the UN the hell out of New York. Please someone, anyone...Send them to france or Sudan or Bono's house, just get them out of the US, they are making me ill.


One world/new world order BS......

Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:55:59 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
UN.. blah blah blah...

Restrictions.. blah blah blah..

Fees and licenses.. blah blah blah..

UN federation.. blah blah blah..

Go xxxx yourself.



+1

So, they're trying to start ...

trying to make themselves THE world government ...

Communism and Socialism are failures (and its against Godly principles)
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:56:58 PM EDT
[#13]
In other words...

Put the entire world on welfare that we pay for.  

I'm thinking, not only no..............but, Fuck NO!!


GM
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 5:01:36 PM EDT
[#14]
By the way do you know what a rich Liberal/Socialist is? They're a former Republican/Capitalists who got rich and  then are overcome with guilt for doing so. Nut Jobs!!
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 5:04:48 PM EDT
[#15]

At the heart of the proposal, unveiled at a gathering of world business leaders at the Swiss ski resort of Davos, is a push to get countries to account for the cost of failed policies, and use the money saved "up front" to avert crises before they hit. Top of the list is a challenge to the United States to join an international pollution permit trading system which, the UN claims, could deliver $3.64trn of global wealth.


I got an idea to save money. Stop having meetings at fucking Swiss ski resorts, and start having meetings in your beloved third world countries. Renting out a place there would be cheaper, and the money would be going right where it needs to.....the people living in the third world country.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 5:05:06 PM EDT
[#16]
fuck the un!
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 5:19:32 PM EDT
[#17]
They are called 3rd world nations for a reason...mortality is a part fo the circle of life.

I am not going to work as hard as I do so some f*ck-tard at the UN can fight the natural order of things.

Bringing that equation to a local level, the richest couple guys in town should give a HUGE portion of thier present and future income to a third party so they can give a portion of it to the the poorest families in the town...Hey, that's kinda like tything and according to the Dems. that's just wrong...

U.N. Group Hug...not here buddy.

Pete
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 5:45:25 PM EDT
[#18]
It is the liberal way. Just throw money at the problems and hope they go away.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 6:03:17 PM EDT
[#19]
The price? An admission that the nation-state is an old-fashioned concept that has no role to play in a modern globalised world where financial markets have to be harnessed rather than simply condemned.

Says what they want right there.  Translates to give all your power to the UN.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 7:13:34 PM EDT
[#20]


Link Posted: 1/29/2006 7:36:49 PM EDT
[#21]
Too many people go to work for the UN, steal millions of dollars, then bail out. Now they want access to more money....I don't think so.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 7:38:40 PM EDT
[#22]
And warlords everywhere rejoiced.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 7:57:18 PM EDT
[#23]
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 8:09:22 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Where is China in all this???? What about all those petrodollars being created in Saudi and Iran - what, they aren't contributing to global pollution...Another punish the US scheme.... Kick the UN the hell out of New York. Please someone, anyone...Send them to france or Sudan or Bono's house, just get them out of the US, they are making me ill.


One world/new world order BS......




+1

Kick them the fuck out of NY.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 8:19:10 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I am not going to work as hard as I do so some f*ck-tard at the UN can fight the natural order of things.



Don't worry, they have no intention of using that money to help humanity overcome the natural order of things
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 8:52:17 PM EDT
[#26]
What ever happened to my UN flag burning day?
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 9:22:02 PM EDT
[#27]
It was pointed out to me in the past by an RKI:

Sending money/food to the "Starving" Africans, etc. is the WORST thing we can do for them--and, it just causes increased problems in the future.

The Technology in Africa is (for much of it's agriculture) Subsistence level.   The population remains relatively stable based on breeding patterns, food sources, etc.   In lean years (poor harvest, etc.) some of the population dies off and the remainder survives.  The population grows in good harvest years.  

Now, when we step in because we see the starving kids in Africa and send food, we keep an 'Artificially' High harvest....so instead of the population going from it's average (call it X) down to 80% of X due to starvation, the population becomes 120% of X.    Next lean harvest, the population is 120% of the prior X, and we send more food to even more starving people.  Then the population becomes 150% of X.   Then a good harvest, and the population increases 'Naturally' to 200% of X.    Then another famine...and now, we have twice the population that needs food.   Eventually, we won't be able to send the food, and instead of tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands starving, it will be millions or tens of millions.

AFARR
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 9:22:07 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
What ever happened to my UN flag burning day?



EVERY day is un-flag-burning-day
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