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Posted: 8/2/2005 9:58:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 10:04:08 AM EDT by CS223]
Linky

COPS MUST KEEP THE FAITH

POLICE have been told to take their shoes off and not use sniffer dogs when raiding Muslim homes.

An 18-point guide issued by Bedfordshire Police lists dos and don'ts when dealing with Muslims who are suspected of terrorist or drugs offences.

The guidelines state that 'the Muslim community feels victimised and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny'.

It then lists 18 points police officers should note.

These include:

• Rapid entry needs to be the last resort and raids into Muslim houses are discouraged for a number of religious dignity reasons.

• Police should seek to avoid looking at unclad Muslim women and allow them an opportunity to dress and cover their heads.

• For reasons of dignity officers should seek to avoid entering occupied bedrooms and bathrooms even before dawn.

• Use of police dogs will be considered serious desecration of the premises and may necessitate extensive cleaning of the house and disposal of household items.

• Advice should be sought before considering the use of cameras and camcorders due to the risk of capturing individuals, especially women, in inappropriate dress.

• Muslim prisoners should be allowed to take additional clothing to the station.

• If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer. They should be allowed the opportunity to finish.

• Officers should not take shoes into the houses, especially in areas that might be kept pure for prayer purposes.

• In the current climate the justification for pre-dawn raids on Muslim houses needs to be clear and transparent.

• Non-Muslims are not allowed to touch holy books, Qurans or religious artefacts without permission. Where possible, Muslim officers in a state of 'Wudhu' (preparation before prayer) should be used for this purpose.

Chairman of Luton Council of Faiths, Zafar Khan, welcomed the guidelines but said the police should deal with all faiths sensitively.

He said: "Guidelines on how to deal and interact with the community in all faiths should be welcomed.

"It's a question of being sensitive and informed and if that makes the policing more effective and more sensitive that has to be a good thing."

Abdul Malik, chairman of Luton Race Advisory Forum, said it had been in discussions with the police about how to raid houses before the London bombing campaign.

He said: "The police need to be sensitive when they are going into the homes of everybody - not just Muslims.

"They should keep respect. Some Hindus and Sikhs have a place or a room devoted to prayer and that should be respected too."

A Bedfordshire Police spokesman said: "The guidelines are regularly issued to all staff as a reminder of the force protocol when entering a Muslim household.

"We take very seriously the culture surrounding all faiths and feel it is important to respect those beliefs, even while carrying out police business. We would like to reassure all communities that any current or perceived tensions, which might be heightened as a result of recent events, will not affect how police deal with Muslims or anyone else."


ETA: The solution is to post sharp shooters outside the suspected hideout and make nice head shots eliminating the need to desecrate the holy terrorist hooch and no need to dispute the charges against them.

Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:00:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:01:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CS223:
Linky

COPS MUST KEEP THE FAITH

POLICE have been told to take their shoes off and not use sniffer dogs when raiding Muslim homes.


......




You have got to be fucking kidding me.!?
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:01:16 AM EDT
PC will be the death of us all
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:05:04 AM EDT
What a bunch of morons...why don't they just say "allow all suicide bombers free access to whatever they want, we wouldn't want to offend their religious dignity"

My list would be #1. Don't shoot their dogs, the poor animals had no choice in owners.

Otherwise its all good...hell strip their women to bra and panties to make sure they aren't concelaing anything in their Ninja robes...
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:06:07 AM EDT
I don't think I saw the SAS with their shoes off last week.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:07:07 AM EDT
could that happen in our country???

only thing i can think of is, thank God we have seperation of church and state, that the government pays no attention to the religious beliefs of the people. well at least when it comes to the ten commandments
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:07:57 AM EDT
what a giant steaming pile o' CRAP.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:10:40 AM EDT
Giving those orders to the police who are trying to stop these people from killing us is a joke.


WTF is it with political correctness these days....

I wonder what Wiston Churchhill would think of that if they tried to pass those rules during WWII.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:14:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 10:15:17 AM EDT by DoubleFeed]
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:16:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:16:43 AM EDT
PC bullshitt is what is ruining our country as well. Protect the border, stop illegall immigration and you are a racist/ vigilante.

Total B.S.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:17:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
This'll quickly turn into an officer safety issue: first time the Bobbies blow into a house and step on a big pile of shattered glass left as a birthday present from the baddies, shoes will turn into a mandate.



"Die Hard" has yet to hit theaters in England. They are behind the times you know. They still hav a monarchy.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:18:34 AM EDT
Switch from dogs to pigs which have better noses anyway
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:18:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By zoe17:
PC bullshitt is what is ruining our country as well. Protect the border, stop illegall immigration and you are a racist/ vigilante.

Total B.S.



I'm curious what will happen when the baby boom gen dies out/loses power.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:20:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:22:03 AM EDT
Fuck that

Oh sorry my cousin blew up your family but please watch the carpet.

Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:25:12 AM EDT
Fuck that PC crap. They are no better than any other religion. Kick the door down, wear muddy boots, and let the dog chew on them.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:34:32 AM EDT
Mark my words: This political correctness bullshit is going to result in the deaths of thousands. By bending over backwards not to offend, by refusing to profile those who look and act like terrorists while cavity-searching 70 year old ladies, etc, we are going to let some folks through who will doing something worse than 9/11, unfortunately.

Political Correctness is the philosophy of sissies and girly men who prefer to preserve "feelings" of others over doing whats right. It is time to drop this foolishness.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:37:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tequilabob:
could that happen in our country???


yes. for about 30 seconds. our elected reps are free to make any kind of assinine suggestion but if you end up with a police riot or enough disgusted and/or outraged citizens calling and writing in, such stupidity would quickly disappear.

it's a different game altogether in england where they are subjects and not citizens.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:46:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By eodtech2000:
I don't think I saw the SAS with their shoes off last week.




How about walking through a pig pen before the raid and using police pigs for bomb and drug detection?

F-em.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:56:24 AM EDT
If I were a K-9 handler over there, I'd have a problem holding onto the leash while standing outside such homes. "Sorry, Fido got away from me, but look at all the explosives he found"

Kharn
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:57:49 AM EDT
WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP!!!

Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:36:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:40:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 11:41:59 AM EDT by N1Rampage]
You know, they might also do this, along with special jump suites, when they arrest people to take off those white overall jump suites so they can test for explosive residue or gun powder residue, etc.

Also, if you do that check with those suites and gloves on, there is no contamination and see what other peope were there by DNA from hair or fingerprints on stuff.

EDT: Like not touching holy books will not contaminate finger prints of OTHER possible terrorists, and not walking on certain rugs will not remove DNA from other terrorists as well. I'm starting to thing it more of CSI stuff than actual PC-ness.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:40:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:41:21 AM EDT
BULLSHITTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:43:20 AM EDT
Says refrain from wearing "shoes" so just wear boots.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:47:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 2:12:10 PM EDT by NorCal_LEO]
Does that make them "Jack Socked Thugs?"

I feel for the Brits. Pretty soon they will have to carry airsoft.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:47:26 AM EDT

The guidelines state that 'the Muslim community feels victimised and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny'.



Common sense would suggest that you relocate to a Muslim country then...
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:51:22 AM EDT
This can't possibly be serious. I'm calling

Link Posted: 8/2/2005 12:57:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Noname:

The guidelines state that 'the Muslim community feels victimised and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny'.



Common sense would suggest that you relocate to a Muslim country then...



I would argue they are victimized by those amongst their own communities who have chosen to BLOW UP INFIDELS ON BUSES AND TRAINS. The police scrutiny is simply a result of the acts commited by their own people.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 1:58:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:
This can't possibly be serious. I'm calling




No BS, It is true, ain't life grand(for the terrorists)
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 2:01:18 PM EDT
.............

It's official. Not only has the sun set on the British empire, it's progeny are fucking doomed by mass consensual stupidity.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 2:01:34 PM EDT
So, who is gonna make up a British flag with OWNED written across it?

So sad, really sad.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 2:05:11 PM EDT
This must be a joke.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 2:06:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
So, who is gonna make up a British flag with OWNED written across it?

So sad, really sad.



In arabic.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 2:08:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
So, who is gonna make up a British flag with OWNED written across it?

So sad, really sad.



In arabic.



That's cold. Fitting but cold.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 2:10:26 PM EDT
In my next life I'm coming back as a Muslim from south of the border (illegal). Carlos bin Rachman. I'll have it knocked.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 2:15:28 PM EDT
How to defend your Muslim home:



What a stupid policy.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 2:23:49 PM EDT
Gimme a break.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:38:23 PM EDT
Seriously, what it all boils down to is their way of waging war. they proclaimed long ago that they would use our own laws againsts us. They said they would take advantage of our welfare system for support and while both anglo husband & wife worked to support the the system that supports them, they would simply out breed us. Wish I could find the article or person who was quoted saying that but it's been 10 years or more. Makes you want to start your own religion.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:43:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:44:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ArmedAggie:

Originally Posted By Noname:

The guidelines state that 'the Muslim community feels victimised and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny'.



Common sense would suggest that you relocate to a Muslim country then...



I would argue they are victimized by those amongst their own communities who have chosen to BLOW UP INFIDELS ON BUSES AND TRAINS. The police scrutiny is simply a result of the acts commited by their own people.



Give up the terrrorists you are harboring among you, and then things will go better for you, Muslims Community.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:47:33 PM EDT
They really need a 19-point guide:



• If you strongly suspect that armed terrorists are inside the home, you may throw 20lb. satchel charges through a window before taking off your shoes and entering.



Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:55:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 6:56:46 PM EDT by SheepDog_556]

Originally Posted By CS223:
Linky

COPS MUST KEEP THE FAITH

POLICE have been told to take their shoes off and not use sniffer dogs when raiding Muslim homes.

An 18-point guide issued by Bedfordshire Police lists dos and don'ts when dealing with Muslims who are suspected of terrorist or drugs offences.

The guidelines state that 'the Muslim community feels victimised and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny'.

It then lists 18 points police officers should note.

These include:

• Rapid entry needs to be the last resort and raids into Muslim houses are discouraged for a number of religious dignity reasons.

• Police should seek to avoid looking at unclad Muslim women and allow them an opportunity to dress and cover their heads.

• For reasons of dignity officers should seek to avoid entering occupied bedrooms and bathrooms even before dawn.

• Use of police dogs will be considered serious desecration of the premises and may necessitate extensive cleaning of the house and disposal of household items.

• Advice should be sought before considering the use of cameras and camcorders due to the risk of capturing individuals, especially women, in inappropriate dress.

• Muslim prisoners should be allowed to take additional clothing to the station.

• If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer. They should be allowed the opportunity to finish.

• Officers should not take shoes into the houses, especially in areas that might be kept pure for prayer purposes.

• In the current climate the justification for pre-dawn raids on Muslim houses needs to be clear and transparent.

• Non-Muslims are not allowed to touch holy books, Qurans or religious artefacts without permission. Where possible, Muslim officers in a state of 'Wudhu' (preparation before prayer) should be used for this purpose.

Chairman of Luton Council of Faiths, Zafar Khan, welcomed the guidelines but said the police should deal with all faiths sensitively.

He said: "Guidelines on how to deal and interact with the community in all faiths should be welcomed.

"It's a question of being sensitive and informed and if that makes the policing more effective and more sensitive that has to be a good thing."

Abdul Malik, chairman of Luton Race Advisory Forum, said it had been in discussions with the police about how to raid houses before the London bombing campaign.

He said: "The police need to be sensitive when they are going into the homes of everybody - not just Muslims.

"They should keep respect. Some Hindus and Sikhs have a place or a room devoted to prayer and that should be respected too."

A Bedfordshire Police spokesman said: "The guidelines are regularly issued to all staff as a reminder of the force protocol when entering a Muslim household.

"We take very seriously the culture surrounding all faiths and feel it is important to respect those beliefs, even while carrying out police business. We would like to reassure all communities that any current or perceived tensions, which might be heightened as a result of recent events, will not affect how police deal with Muslims or anyone else."


ETA: The solution is to post sharp shooters outside the suspected hideout and make nice head shots eliminating the need to desecrate the holy terrorist hooch and no need to dispute the charges against them.




I agree complete. But I have a better idea. Fill pumper truck with bacon grease, douse "sacred muslim terrorist shitbag" domocile with said grease, set ablaze. Make sure to bring grahm crackers, chocolates and marshmallows.

Oh...and watch porn while you roast your s'mores.

Sheep
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:13:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 8:16:09 PM EDT by WolfAR15]


eta: ill resize tomorrow.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:18:34 PM EDT
How can we win with leadership putting out these types of bullshit policies? We need to decide if we want to win or not.
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