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Posted: 10/21/2010 8:52:58 AM EDT
ANy predictions on this weekends HeavyWeight championship fight?
Who will win & how?
Brock or Cain??
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 8:54:22 AM EDT
Samson all the way....

Link Posted: 10/21/2010 8:58:25 AM EDT
Not a fan of either.. but i want to see lesner eat the mat
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 8:58:26 AM EDT
Brock by strikes.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 8:59:23 AM EDT
Lesnar will punch Velasquez.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:02:02 AM EDT
Cain will be beaten about the head and neck and shoulder area by Brock.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:17:14 AM EDT
I'm not sure what Cain will be wearing when he goes to the arena but I'm pretty sure he'll be wearing a custom made ass-whoopin home.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:19:55 AM EDT
I hate both of them fir different reasons. I couldn't even bring my self to choose one in your poll.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:22:17 AM EDT
Brock will clock the Mexican jock.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:28:11 AM EDT
Brock

Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:29:25 AM EDT
Brock will stand up with him and box a bit. He will try to get in a few good strikes before trying takedowns. Once on the ground, if Brock has top control, he will punish Cain with his hammerfists and it will go either stoppage or he submits him with an anaconda or kimura. Brock has better wrestling, improving jujitsu (carwin fight), and has a helluva power punch.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:31:06 AM EDT
Cain is not the man to bring Lesnar down.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:35:10 AM EDT
Brock will give "Brown (Aztlan) Pride" his walking immigration papers.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:39:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
Brock will stand up with him and box a bit. He will try to get in a few good strikes before trying takedowns. Once on the ground, if Brock has top control, he will punish Cain with his hammerfists and it will go either stoppage or he submits him with an anaconda or kimura. Brock has better wrestling, improving jujitsu (carwin fight), and has a helluva power punch.


+1 Brock will dominate. I predict a first round tko via ref stoppage by strikes. Brock is simply too powerful.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:39:56 AM EDT
It's Brocktober people!!!!

Brock will take it to the ground where it will finally come to an end.

How long this fight last depends on how long velazquez can run away from the takedown.

I do feel that Velazquez is the more technical boxer but I don't believe he has that Shane Carwin power.

Brock should not underestimate him & let this go to the cards.

If your velazquez... Think Franky Edgar... Move in, strike and get your ass out asap.

I'm looking forward to this fight
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:47:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
Brock will clock the Mexican jock.


He isnt mexican . He was born in California.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:47:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Brock will give "Brown (Aztlan) Pride" his walking immigration papers.


See above.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:47:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/21/2010 9:59:31 AM EDT by runs-with-scissors]
brock

ETA: i know some people dont like brock for whatever reason, i think his ability as a fighter speaks for itself ... <cough> Champion <cough>, and i suspect, any that dont like him would never tell him, face to face. Like it or not you have to respect the pure physical ability and mental focus –– 2000 years ago this guy would be ripping the limbs off of people in a coliseum.



love him / hate him / whatever –– you dont have to respect him until you get into the ring with him, then you WILL respect him
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:49:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NoStockBikes:
Lesnar will punch Velasquez.


Repeatedly, in the facial region.


I don't like either fighter but I want to see Lesnar put the mitts to Velasquez.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 9:49:22 AM EDT

brock by ground and pound
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:00:10 AM EDT
I didn't like Lesnar much at first but I'm warming up to him. He's not gonna be my favorite fighter or even my favorite heavyweight, but I'm pulling for him.

That said, I think he's gonna pummel Velasquez.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:04:28 AM EDT
Honkey Kong.

1st round stoppage by hammer fist.

Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:04:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:07:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By diaz_aa:
Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Brock will give "Brown (Aztlan) Pride" his walking immigration papers.


See above.
Don't tell ME, tell Mr. "Brown Pride" when he walks into the ring with a MEXICAN flag.

Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:17:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/21/2010 10:19:36 AM EDT by magnumtc]
Originally Posted By runs-with-scissors:
brock

ETA: i know some people dont like brock for whatever reason, i think his ability as a fighter speaks for itself ... <cough> Champion <cough>, and i suspect, any that dont like him would never tell him, face to face. Like it or not you have to respect the pure physical ability and mental focus –– 2000 years ago this guy would be ripping the limbs off of people in a coliseum.



love him / hate him / whatever –– you dont have to respect him until you get into the ring with him, then you WILL respect him




Agree with this. Brock got off on the wrong foot with a lot of mma fans because he was playing his WWE "heel" persona. A lot of people wrote him off as an aragant and untalented bastard. I think he has more than proved himself. Considering his limited mma experience, he will only get better as he becomes more well rounded. I think he will be champ for a long time.

I was really impressed with his victory over Carwin.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:26:48 AM EDT
Lesnar wins on the ground in the 2nd.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:29:14 AM EDT
As much as I hate to say it, it's going to take one evil fucker to take Brock out. He's a goddam monster.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:31:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By diaz_aa:
Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
Brock will clock the Mexican jock.


He isnt mexican . He was born in California.


Yeah, tell that to Joe Rogan and the UFC for hyping this fight by saying this is the first time in UFC history that a Mexican will be fighting for a heavyweight title. And I know he was born in the U.S., does Cain know this?
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:31:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By magnumtc:
Originally Posted By runs-with-scissors:
brock

ETA: i know some people dont like brock for whatever reason, i think his ability as a fighter speaks for itself ... <cough> Champion <cough>, and i suspect, any that dont like him would never tell him, face to face. Like it or not you have to respect the pure physical ability and mental focus –– 2000 years ago this guy would be ripping the limbs off of people in a coliseum.



love him / hate him / whatever –– you dont have to respect him until you get into the ring with him, then you WILL respect him




Agree with this. Brock got off on the wrong foot with a lot of mma fans because he was playing his WWE "heel" persona. A lot of people wrote him off as an aragant and untalented bastard. I think he has more than proved himself. Considering his limited mma experience, he will only get better as he becomes more well rounded. I think he will be champ for a long time.

I was really impressed with his victory over Carwin.

this.

He was off a whole year and lost the first four minutes of that fight. Yeah, he was covering up in that round but it would have been a premature stoppage had it had been stopped, he was fine. He turned it around in the last minute of that round, touched gloves with Carwin at the beginning of the second and then preceded to end the fight with an arm triangle choke. Anyone who knows chokes knows that isn't easy. Don't have it in right and your arms are shit for the rest of the fight. Boys got skills.

I've got Lesnar in the first by brutal knockout.


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Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:31:54 AM EDT
Fuck mr "brown pride". I hope Lesnar breaks bones
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:34:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:

Originally Posted By diaz_aa:
Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
Brock will clock the Mexican jock.


He isnt mexican . He was born in California.


Yeah, tell that to Joe Rogan and the UFC for hyping this fight by saying this is the first time in UFC history that a Mexican will be fighting for a heavyweight title. And I know he was born in the U.S., does Cain know this?

Yep...it's about tapping into another PPV segment. That's all. Velasquez was at a UFC promo in LA and they waved around the mexican flag and tossed around a few "viva la razas."
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:34:13 AM EDT
Scott Coker and some fighter predictions for 121...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPiqUzMm9lE&feature=player_embedded
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:34:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By magnumtc:
Originally Posted By runs-with-scissors:
brock

ETA: i know some people dont like brock for whatever reason, i think his ability as a fighter speaks for itself ... <cough> Champion <cough>, and i suspect, any that dont like him would never tell him, face to face. Like it or not you have to respect the pure physical ability and mental focus –– 2000 years ago this guy would be ripping the limbs off of people in a coliseum.



love him / hate him / whatever –– you dont have to respect him until you get into the ring with him, then you WILL respect him




Agree with this. Brock got off on the wrong foot with a lot of mma fans because he was playing his WWE "heel" persona. A lot of people wrote him off as an aragant and untalented bastard. I think he has more than proved himself. Considering his limited mma experience, he will only get better as he becomes more well rounded. I think he will be champ for a long time.

I was really impressed with his victory over Carwin.


Same here, I thought Carwin was the guy to beat Lesnar. I'm guessing Brock will be enjoying a Corona and a Burrito this weekend.

Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:35:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hillbilly69:
I'm not sure what Cain will be wearing when he goes to the arena but I'm pretty sure he'll be wearing a custom made ass-whoopin home.

I hope you're right
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:36:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Barney_Calhoun:
Originally Posted By magnumtc:
Originally Posted By runs-with-scissors:
brock

ETA: i know some people dont like brock for whatever reason, i think his ability as a fighter speaks for itself ... <cough> Champion <cough>, and i suspect, any that dont like him would never tell him, face to face. Like it or not you have to respect the pure physical ability and mental focus –– 2000 years ago this guy would be ripping the limbs off of people in a coliseum.



love him / hate him / whatever –– you dont have to respect him until you get into the ring with him, then you WILL respect him




Agree with this. Brock got off on the wrong foot with a lot of mma fans because he was playing his WWE "heel" persona. A lot of people wrote him off as an aragant and untalented bastard. I think he has more than proved himself. Considering his limited mma experience, he will only get better as he becomes more well rounded. I think he will be champ for a long time.

I was really impressed with his victory over Carwin.


Same here, I thought Carwin was the guy to beat Lesnar. I'm guessing Brock will be enjoying a Corona and a Burrito this weekend.

I laughed my ass off when he said that...



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Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:42:16 AM EDT
I have watched several MMA matches in the last year and have seen the referee stop matches when one fighter was down being beaten and doing nothing but defending himself. Shane had Brock in this position for several seconds and the ref allowed it to continue. Brock couldn't compete with Shane in striking and was hurt badly and in my opinion would have been beaten if Shane had not worn himself out and if the ref had done as many others have done and stopped the fight.
I hated Brock before I got a chance to see the replay of this fight. He's still not my favorite fighter but after the fight he showed class and respect for Shane and I respect him for that.
I would like to see Velasquez win but it's a long shot. He's proud of his Mexican heritage and that's ok with me
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:46:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DON70:
I have watched several MMA matches in the last year and have seen the referee stop matches when one fighter was down being beaten and doing nothing but defending himself. Shane had Brock in this position for several seconds and the ref allowed it to continue. Brock couldn't compete with Shane in striking and was hurt badly and in my opinion would have been beaten if Shane had not worn himself out and if the ref had done as many others have done and stopped the fight.
I hated Brock before I got a chance to see the replay of this fight. He's still not my favorite fighter but after the fight he showed class and respect for Shane and I respect him for that.
I would like to see Velasquez win but it's a long shot. He's proud of his Mexican heritage and that's ok with me

Most of those fights are premature stoppages. It would have been a bad call to stop that fight, he was still kicking and defending.


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Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:49:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/21/2010 10:50:25 AM EDT by 40xb-shooter]
Originally Posted By WhiteBuffalo:
Originally Posted By DON70:
I have watched several MMA matches in the last year and have seen the referee stop matches when one fighter was down being beaten and doing nothing but defending himself. Shane had Brock in this position for several seconds and the ref allowed it to continue. Brock couldn't compete with Shane in striking and was hurt badly and in my opinion would have been beaten if Shane had not worn himself out and if the ref had done as many others have done and stopped the fight.
I hated Brock before I got a chance to see the replay of this fight. He's still not my favorite fighter but after the fight he showed class and respect for Shane and I respect him for that.
I would like to see Velasquez win but it's a long shot. He's proud of his Mexican heritage and that's ok with me

Most of those fights are premature stoppages. It would have been a bad call to stop that fight, he was still kicking and defending.


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Cain's fight against Ben Rothwell was a premature stoppage IMO. Even though Cain was winning at the time. you just never know how it would have gone...
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 10:52:53 AM EDT
I hope Brock beats that fuckers face and then waves an American flag in it and reminds where he was born.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:11:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
Originally Posted By WhiteBuffalo:
Originally Posted By DON70:
I have watched several MMA matches in the last year and have seen the referee stop matches when one fighter was down being beaten and doing nothing but defending himself. Shane had Brock in this position for several seconds and the ref allowed it to continue. Brock couldn't compete with Shane in striking and was hurt badly and in my opinion would have been beaten if Shane had not worn himself out and if the ref had done as many others have done and stopped the fight.
I hated Brock before I got a chance to see the replay of this fight. He's still not my favorite fighter but after the fight he showed class and respect for Shane and I respect him for that.
I would like to see Velasquez win but it's a long shot. He's proud of his Mexican heritage and that's ok with me

Most of those fights are premature stoppages. It would have been a bad call to stop that fight, he was still kicking and defending.


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Cain's fight against Ben Rothwell was a premature stoppage IMO. Even though Cain was winning at the time. you just never know how it would have gone...


agreed.

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Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:11:44 AM EDT
Like I said in the other thread, winner gets knocked out by JDS anyways.

Behold the future HW champion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ls7ldH9xE8
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:13:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Kid_Sampson:
Like I said in the other thread, winner gets knocked out by JDS anyways.

Behold the future HW champion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ls7ldH9xE8

he's got the best chance...granted if he can lure Lesnar into a boxing match like he did gonzaga...which he ain't gonna do.


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Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:14:56 AM EDT
Brown pride is going to have a hurt ego and a few broken bones.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:16:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By WhiteBuffalo:
Originally Posted By DON70:
I have watched several MMA matches in the last year and have seen the referee stop matches when one fighter was down being beaten and doing nothing but defending himself. Shane had Brock in this position for several seconds and the ref allowed it to continue. Brock couldn't compete with Shane in striking and was hurt badly and in my opinion would have been beaten if Shane had not worn himself out and if the ref had done as many others have done and stopped the fight.
I hated Brock before I got a chance to see the replay of this fight. He's still not my favorite fighter but after the fight he showed class and respect for Shane and I respect him for that.
I would like to see Velasquez win but it's a long shot. He's proud of his Mexican heritage and that's ok with me

Most of those fights are premature stoppages. It would have been a bad call to stop that fight, he was still kicking and defending.


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I agree that a lot of the stoppages in this situation are premature but that's the way it's done a lot of the time. I'd like to see the fight but I'm not going to pay what they're asking for what may be over in a few seconds.
I haven't heard Velasquez make any statements that I would consider racist but there are always some racist comments on GD about him

Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:18:58 AM EDT
Lesnar in the first half of the 2nd round by strikes to Cain's puss.

Can't wait to see that Brown Pride goofball get all fuckered up.

Brock's a fellow "gun nut" and that's enough right there for me to root for him no matter who he's fighting. Well, except Randy.......
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:29:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/21/2010 11:34:08 AM EDT by WhiteBuffalo]
Originally Posted By DON70:
Originally Posted By WhiteBuffalo:
Originally Posted By DON70:
I have watched several MMA matches in the last year and have seen the referee stop matches when one fighter was down being beaten and doing nothing but defending himself. Shane had Brock in this position for several seconds and the ref allowed it to continue. Brock couldn't compete with Shane in striking and was hurt badly and in my opinion would have been beaten if Shane had not worn himself out and if the ref had done as many others have done and stopped the fight.
I hated Brock before I got a chance to see the replay of this fight. He's still not my favorite fighter but after the fight he showed class and respect for Shane and I respect him for that.
I would like to see Velasquez win but it's a long shot. He's proud of his Mexican heritage and that's ok with me

Most of those fights are premature stoppages. It would have been a bad call to stop that fight, he was still kicking and defending.





I agree that a lot of the stoppages in this situation are premature but that's the way it's done a lot of the time. I'd like to see the fight but I'm not going to pay what they're asking for what may be over in a few seconds.
I haven't heard Velasquez make any statements that I would consider racist but there are always some racist comments on GD about him



people here resent the fact he claims to be a Mexican even though he was born and raised in California. The brown pride tattoo doesn't help matters in that regard. Fwiw, a white pride tattoo wouldn't go over very well here neither.

Eta: common doesn't equal right, the refs have been catching a lot of flak for bad calls, the more experienced (especially the few that train and fight MMA) have been pretty good lately.

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Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:33:31 AM EDT
Brock, the guy's a human tank.

Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:40:49 AM EDT
Brock more than likely
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:44:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By diaz_aa:
Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Brock will give "Brown (Aztlan) Pride" his walking immigration papers.


See above.



See Cain's Chest art
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 11:47:59 AM EDT
Brock is going tear his limbs off and TKO Mr Brown Pride with them.
Link Posted: 10/21/2010 12:26:35 PM EDT
Velasquez by submission - I'm thinking arm bar or ankle lock...hopefully it's a rear naked choke with Lesnar put to sleep!
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