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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:39:36 PM EDT
Nope, nope, nope . . .

Two divers are found dead 300 feet underwater in the 'Mount Everest of cave systems' that has killed eight other adventurers

Two divers have drowned while inside a deadly cave system described as the 'Mount Everest' for underwater explorers.

Patrick Peacock and Chris Rittenmeyer were in the Eagle's Nest diver area in Weeki Wachee, Florida, with a friend, Justin Blakely, on Saturday. They were missing for about three hours before Blakely called police to report the incident.

The dive site is about 50 miles north of Tampa, and the trio was there for a three-day trip, according to WFLA.

Divers have referred to the caves as the 'Mount Everest' or 'Grand Canyon' of dives.

Peacock and Rittenmeyer were experienced divers, and they decided to tackle the incredibly dangerous caves - ignoring severe warning signs.

'Stop. Prevent your death. Go no father,' a sign at the mouth of the cave reads.

'There's nothing in this cave worth dying for. Do not go beyond this point.'

The extreme message is accompanied by a cartoon drawing of the grim reaper hovering above the bodies or doomed divers.

Despite the sign, Blakely said his friends headed down into the underwater maze as he stayed on the surface.


DM with pics





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[Last Edit: 10/18/2016 12:56:53 PM EDT by klinc]
Don't go past the signs if you don't know what you are doing.



edit: Appears they were experienced (not sure what that means exactly to a guy writing a story) cave divers... No telling what happened.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:43:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:44:46 PM EDT
That sign couldn't have made it any more clear.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:44:48 PM EDT

If you are stupid enough to ignore this sign, then please go and die.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:45:07 PM EDT
Hernando County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Denise Moloney said they were in a, 'very dangerous and complex area of the cave system'.

Peacock taught history and philosophy at the Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale, and operated the Blue Zen Diver group, the Sun Sentinel reports.

He was also a Air Force veteran.

Rittenmeyer was described by family members as a 'a great athlete', in addition to being an experienced diver, according to the newspaper.

'He has been diving since he was 12 years old, and cave diving for a long time,' his father, Ron, said.

Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:45:16 PM EDT
Better than dying from Alzheimer's, I guess.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:46:10 PM EDT

I assume they just leave the bodies down there?

Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:46:38 PM EDT
In before 'they died doing what they loved'?


(Though drowning in pitch black caves seems like a strange thing to love.)
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:46:42 PM EDT
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Doing what they love. Darwin will move on

Eta 4 seconds
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They were recovered at about 260' depth.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:47:10 PM EDT
The two men are the ninth and tenth divers to die in the caves since 1981.

The last two to die in the cave were Daren Spivey, 35, and his 15-year-old son Dillon Sanchez, who drowned on Christmas Day in 2013.

A sheriff's office investigation has found that pair died accidentally after apparently losing track of time and diving to 233 feet while using just air in their tanks.

Rescuers found Spivey's body floating 120 feet below the surface with his breathing device out of his mouth - an indication that he had perhaps tried to give his son air after the teenager ran out.

The high number of deaths led to the system being closed off to divers in 1999, however the sinkhole was reopened in 2003, according to the Washington Post.

The National Association for Cave Divers and the National Speleological Society Cave Diving Section were two groups who pushed for it to be opened back up to those who wanted to explore it, the newspaper reports.

Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:47:27 PM EDT
"Died doing what they love"
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Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:

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Like the sign says, there's nothing in these caves worth dying for.

Why jeopardize a recovery diver for some asshole who is already dead?
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:48:49 PM EDT
Narc'ed.

Thats a helluva way to die - and completely preventable. They had enough experience to know how much risk they were taking on.

Needless loss of life.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:49:13 PM EDT
Idiots.
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Originally Posted By BGENE:
'He has been diving since he was 12 years old, and cave diving for a long time,' his father, Ron, said.

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A friend's dad moved down to the Caribbean a few years ago. He was an experienced diver for MANY years and was also a doc on the island.

He tried to break the world record for the deepest dive last year (or maybe it was earlier this year) and died for ascending too quickly, despite already having his stops well-planned ahead of time. His son (my friend) was waiting at the surface in the boat for him, but he lost comms and never came up.

Experience can quickly be shattered by bravado and narcosis.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:49:50 PM EDT
Almost as retarded as that tard that died upside down stuck in nutty putty.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:51:20 PM EDT
How do we know for sure that these two poor victims actually knew how to read?
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Like the sign says, there's nothing in these caves worth dying for.


Why jeopardize a recovery diver for some asshole who is already dead?
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:

I assume they just leave the bodies down there?


Like the sign says, there's nothing in these caves worth dying for.


Why jeopardize a recovery diver for some asshole who is already dead?

Someone would have come across them in the next month or two. It's a popular dive site.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:52:35 PM EDT
Their ego got the best of them. They think they are better than those that divers that died before. Jokes on them.
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Like the sign says, there's nothing in these caves worth dying for.


Why jeopardize a recovery diver for some asshole who is already dead?
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:

I assume they just leave the bodies down there?


Like the sign says, there's nothing in these caves worth dying for.


Why jeopardize a recovery diver for some asshole who is already dead?



Makes perfect sense to me

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I've dove Eagles Nest several times. Went to 250' once.

Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:54:38 PM EDT
I know the system but the story doesn't say how experienced *cave* divers they were. My guess, inexperienced cave divers encountered a 'brown out' and got lost. Panic set in and they ran out of air.

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Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:56:41 PM EDT
Should have trained harder by building up tolerance to breathing water in small doses.
Or brought more air.
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Originally Posted By klinc:
Don't go past the signs if you don't know what you are doing.

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Why even have a warning. Stupid people will ignore the sign anyways.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:58:41 PM EDT
This site is full of the some of the most boring, risk adverse, compulsive rule followers I've ever seen.

Two adventurers got in over their heads and paid for it with their lives. It doesn't mean they were idiots or deserved to die. Life must be awfully boring when you never peel your ass from the lazy boy.
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Originally Posted By strat81:
Better than dying from Alzheimer's, I guess.
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True. Some people cliff jump, some people cave dive. I'm sure they knew the risks and had planned to go that far in even before they suited up.

Me, I play Legos with my kids.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:59:13 PM EDT
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Oh, hell no!
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 1:00:05 PM EDT
Must've had dirt on FHRC.
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Like the sign says, there's nothing in these caves worth dying for.


Why jeopardize a recovery diver for some asshole who is already dead?
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:

I assume they just leave the bodies down there?


Like the sign says, there's nothing in these caves worth dying for.


Why jeopardize a recovery diver for some asshole who is already dead?


How do you know they are already dead?
Maybe they found an air pocket in the cave.
You can't just stand on the surface and look into the water and say "yep, it's been 3-4 hours and them boys be dead for sure"
People in rescue work take those risks all the time. They know what's at risk when they take the job. I'm sure for a lot of them it's an adrenalin rush just like it was for those 2 divers. Thank God we have folks like that.
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Originally Posted By beardog296:
This site is full of the some of the most boring, risk adverse, compulsive rule followers I've ever seen.

Two adventurers got in over their heads and paid for it with their lives. It doesn't mean they were idiots or deserved to die. Life must be awfully boring when you never peel your ass from the lazy boy.
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One day I might get to see something like this.


One of those three taught my nitrox class.
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They went beyond this point...and paid the price.

Maybe the sign should read, "stupid prizes can be found beyond this point"?
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Originally Posted By ICEMAN19047:


True. Some people cliff jump, some people cave dive. I'm sure they knew the risks and had planned to go that far in even before they suited up.

Me, I play Legos with my kids.
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Originally Posted By ICEMAN19047:
Originally Posted By strat81:
Better than dying from Alzheimer's, I guess.


True. Some people cliff jump, some people cave dive. I'm sure they knew the risks and had planned to go that far in even before they suited up.

Me, I play Legos with my kids.


It's all fun and games until you step on one of those
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they died doing what they loved
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Exactly why I stick to dry caves.
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Originally Posted By klinc:

One day I might get to see something like this.


<a href="http://s49.photobucket.com/user/clinck/media/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/clinck/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg</a>
One of those three taught my nitrox class.
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Originally Posted By klinc:
Originally Posted By beardog296:
This site is full of the some of the most boring, risk adverse, compulsive rule followers I've ever seen.

Two adventurers got in over their heads and paid for it with their lives. It doesn't mean they were idiots or deserved to die. Life must be awfully boring when you never peel your ass from the lazy boy.

One day I might get to see something like this.


<a href="http://s49.photobucket.com/user/clinck/media/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/clinck/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg</a>
One of those three taught my nitrox class.



Freaking beautiful! I'm a lowly PADI open water guy and know I would be in over my head down there. But I can't help being jealous of the people that get to experience those sites first hand.

These days, I spend my time going in the opposite direction. I was climbing at 14k feet a week ago. I'm sure if I was taken out by rockfall in some remote couloir, there would plenty of people on here calling me an idiot for climbing mountains.
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Originally Posted By klinc:

One day I might get to see something like this.


<a href="http://s49.photobucket.com/user/clinck/media/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/clinck/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg</a>
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Originally Posted By klinc:
Originally Posted By beardog296:
This site is full of the some of the most boring, risk adverse, compulsive rule followers I've ever seen.

Two adventurers got in over their heads and paid for it with their lives. It doesn't mean they were idiots or deserved to die. Life must be awfully boring when you never peel your ass from the lazy boy.

One day I might get to see something like this.


<a href="http://s49.photobucket.com/user/clinck/media/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/clinck/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg</a>
One of those three taught my nitrox class.


Dude, it's just a cave. There are thousands of other caves that look just like that one, only without THE FUCKING WATER.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 1:09:12 PM EDT
I guess that's the good thing about skydiving.

You're never really lost.
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Originally Posted By klinc:

Someone would have come across them in the next month or two. It's a popular dive site.
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:

I assume they just leave the bodies down there?


Like the sign says, there's nothing in these caves worth dying for.


Why jeopardize a recovery diver for some asshole who is already dead?

Someone would have come across them in the next month or two. It's a popular dive site.




And they'd be swimming in diver broth.
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Originally Posted By beardog296:
This site is full of the some of the most boring, risk adverse, compulsive rule followers I've ever seen.

Two adventurers got in over their heads and paid for it with their lives. It doesn't mean they were idiots or deserved to die. Life must be awfully boring when you never peel your ass from the lazy boy.
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How do you figure that? Theres a world of difference between engaging in high risk activities and engaging in high risk activities for which you have planned for.

Cave diving can be safe. Diving comes down to 1 simple rule, and by God DO NOT BREAK THAT RULE.

PLAN the dive, DIVE the plan. Period.

I dont know the story here, but I have a sneaking suspicion the idea to go exploring was a on the fly. If they really were experienced cave divers, they wouldnt have died because they would have followed the hard and fast rule of diving.
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Probably best. Here is an unfortunate event that happened during a failed body recovery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF4iFJ-G74o
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Originally Posted By klinc:

One day I might get to see something like this.


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/clinck/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg
One of those three taught my nitrox class.
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Originally Posted By klinc:
Originally Posted By beardog296:
This site is full of the some of the most boring, risk adverse, compulsive rule followers I've ever seen.

Two adventurers got in over their heads and paid for it with their lives. It doesn't mean they were idiots or deserved to die. Life must be awfully boring when you never peel your ass from the lazy boy.

One day I might get to see something like this.


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/clinck/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg
One of those three taught my nitrox class.

WHOA! Where is that?!
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If you are stupid enough to ignore this sign, then please go and die.
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It looked like Death was giving us the finger at first.
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild:

How do you figure that? Theres a world of difference between engaging in high risk activities and engaging in high risk activities for which you have planned for.


Cave diving can be safe. Diving comes down to 1 simple rule, and by God DO NOT BREAK THAT RULE.


PLAN the dive, DIVE the plan. Period.


I dont know the story here, but I have a sneaking suspicion the idea to go exploring was a on the fly. If they really were experienced cave divers, they wouldnt have died because they would have followed the hard and fast rule of diving.
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild:
Originally Posted By beardog296:
This site is full of the some of the most boring, risk adverse, compulsive rule followers I've ever seen.

Two adventurers got in over their heads and paid for it with their lives. It doesn't mean they were idiots or deserved to die. Life must be awfully boring when you never peel your ass from the lazy boy.

How do you figure that? Theres a world of difference between engaging in high risk activities and engaging in high risk activities for which you have planned for.


Cave diving can be safe. Diving comes down to 1 simple rule, and by God DO NOT BREAK THAT RULE.


PLAN the dive, DIVE the plan. Period.


I dont know the story here, but I have a sneaking suspicion the idea to go exploring was a on the fly. If they really were experienced cave divers, they wouldnt have died because they would have followed the hard and fast rule of diving.



You don't say...
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 1:11:55 PM EDT
Eagles nest is not a system to be fucked with.
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Originally Posted By DetrhoytMAK:


Dude, it's just a cave. There are thousands of other caves that look just like that one, only without THE FUCKING WATER.
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Originally Posted By DetrhoytMAK:
Originally Posted By klinc:
Originally Posted By beardog296:
This site is full of the some of the most boring, risk adverse, compulsive rule followers I've ever seen.

Two adventurers got in over their heads and paid for it with their lives. It doesn't mean they were idiots or deserved to die. Life must be awfully boring when you never peel your ass from the lazy boy.

One day I might get to see something like this.


<a href="http://s49.photobucket.com/user/clinck/media/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/clinck/14706750_10101289752808845_7693724567017256222_o_zpsl3etsmgt.jpg</a>
One of those three taught my nitrox class.


Dude, it's just a cave. There are thousands of other caves that look just like that one, only without THE FUCKING WATER.

Completely different...
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