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Posted: 12/16/2010 3:04:50 AM EDT
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you mean soon to be
STATE with Third World living conditions once Moon Beam and Newsome take over |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 4:05:35 AM EDT
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you mean soon to be STATE with Third World living conditions once Moon Beam and Newsome take over Sad to see California in such a state. A lot of things need to fixed in that state. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 4:39:14 AM EDT
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CA is fucked, and yes I did read all of the article
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Posted: 12/16/2010 4:41:18 AM EDT
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thats a great article on commiefornia lets all pass it along
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Posted: 12/16/2010 4:52:13 AM EDT
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Why my parents and brothers still live there I don't know....
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Posted: 12/16/2010 4:55:10 AM EDT
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very sad and I have no doubt this will be spreading.
I also have no doubt there is a another motive to support the govt assisted illegal immigration. Oddly the entire thing reminds me of communist societies that I used to travel to after the govt failed. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 4:56:07 AM EDT
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Fortunately, a judge threw out the environmental's rationale for shutting off the water supply last week after finding the delta smelt (a little fucking fish) is not endangered. I hope the water starts flowing soon. For many it will be too late as hundreds of orchards are already dead. Extreme environmentalism destroys lives.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 4:58:01 AM EDT
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The only state i know off that has border crossing checkpoints. "Let me see your papers, err I mean fruit"
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Posted: 12/16/2010 4:59:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: CA is fucked, and yes I did read all of the article What the article states ain't the half of it. Wait until the full brunt of the Ca "Cap N Trade" regulations kick in. The real economic destruction and human suffering will begin. Also, the new state budget should have all kinds of positive impact on the economy. Lots of new taxes, regulations and fees. If (big if) we see Greece style rioting in the streets in the USA, I think Ca will be the first state for it. ETA: The author of that article is behind the times a bit. There are parts of my town that are indistinguishable from Mexico. LEOs, building inspectors, code enforcement and the like all seem to look the other way. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:10:50 AM EDT
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CA is fucked, and yes I did read all of the article What the article states ain't the half of it. Wait until the full brunt of the Ca "Cap N Trade" regulations kick in. The real economic destruction and human suffering will begin. Also, the new state budget should have all kinds of positive impact on the economy. Lots of new taxes, regulations and fees. If (big if) we see Greece style rioting in the streets in the USA, I think Ca will be the first state for it. ETA: The author of that article is behind the times a bit. There are parts of my town that are indistinguishable from Mexico. LEOs, building inspectors, code enforcement and the like all seem to look the other way. Fuck... |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:14:54 AM EDT
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South of San Antonio Texas is the same way, that is the most depressing highway I have every been on. Just miles and miles of mexican shanty parks and open air shit hole flea markets.
Nothing is more destructive to a society and the environment than a heavy handed Govt. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:17:02 AM EDT
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National Review December 15, 2010 Two Californias By Victor Davis Hanson Abandoned farms, Third World living conditions, pervasive public assistance –– welcome to the once-thriving Central Valley. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/255320/two-californias-victor-davis-hanson?page=1 Made it hot. ETA - We are SO fucked...  
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:22:25 AM EDT
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We got great weather in SoCal.
Great article.....BTW. I thought the insight on diversity was original........to paraphrase: diversity is only lauded when it is at the expense of whites. A ridiculously poor, 99% Hispanic population....no libtards calling for diversity. Addtionally..........The paradox of the Mexican flag waving Hispanics.... “Please do not send me back to the culture I nostalgically praise; please let me stay in the culture that I ignore or deprecate.” |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:25:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:25:28 AM EDT
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We got great weather in SoCal. I just let the dog out. It's raining.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:26:38 AM EDT
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We got great weather in SoCal. I just let the dog out. It's raining.
But it didn't get lost in a snowdrift, did it? |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:27:33 AM EDT
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Victor Davis Hanson is a fantastic writer, and the argument he makes regarding why the illeagals wish to stay here and the indifference of Californians in the 3rd and 2nd to last paragraphs is absoute genius.
This bit in particular struck me: So there is a surreal nature to these protests: something like, “Please do not send me back to the culture I nostalgically praise; please let me stay in the culture that I ignore or deprecate.” I think the DREAM Act protestors might have been far more successful in winning public opinion had they stopped blaming the U.S. for suggesting that they might have to leave at some point, and instead explained why, in fact, they want to stay. What it is about America that makes a youth of 21 go on a hunger strike or demonstrate to be allowed to remain in this country rather than return to the place of his birth?
They need to wake up and realize that they are simply riding the foward edge of a wave of human misery brought on by their methods of governance and some aspects of their culture. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:28:19 AM EDT
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The federal government knocked the living hell out of the central valley on purpose to save a 3" long invasive fish. If you didn't notice the price of fruits and vegetables rising this last year you might not have been paying close enough attention. It is going to get worse and you'll now see imports from overseas in your markets. As hundreds of thousands of acres of the nation's most profitable soil went without it's water shares (a form of rationing that's been around for a long long time) the crops failed. The worst are likely the fruit trees that may die if Mother Nature doesn't come through and keep them watered until someone can overrule the one judge who has unemployed several hundred thousand people. Since the 1950's the central valley has been rather poor attracting migrant workers who use to return to Mexico and Central America between growing seasons. With the federally mandated welfare benefits the state is forced to provide without reimbursement there's no need for these illegal aliens to make the long and sometimes dangerous retreat over the border.
As a state California does provide massive amounts of welfare. Food stamps 
Welfare 
Living below the poverty level 
This is a very productive farming state. Because of the strength of our manufacturing that fact doesn't get noticed. 
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:30:03 AM EDT
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CA is fucked, and yes I did read all of the article What the article states ain't the half of it. Wait until the full brunt of the Ca "Cap N Trade" regulations kick in. The real economic destruction and human suffering will begin. Also, the new state budget should have all kinds of positive impact on the economy. Lots of new taxes, regulations and fees. If (big if) we see Greece style rioting in the streets in the USA, I think Ca will be the first state for it. ETA: The author of that article is behind the times a bit. There are parts of my town that are indistinguishable from Mexico. LEOs, building inspectors, code enforcement and the like all seem to look the other way. yeah mine too, Phoenix AZ
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:36:56 AM EDT
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We got great weather in SoCal. I just let the dog out. It's raining.
Yep....you busted me......it is raining here too. 
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:39:27 AM EDT
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geezus, reading the first paragraph made my stomach hurt. WTF. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 5:59:02 AM EDT
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Eerily reminiscent of some of the parts of Matthew Bracken's second book. There are many areas in Texas that are becoming the same way. I hope that the legislature, that will be in session this year, will address these issues to the extent that they can.
Immigration and incorporation is a good thing, invasion and parasitic occupation is a deadly thing for this nation. Kudos to VDH for writing a great article without bluster or hyperbole. I hope that reason will break out and allow us to address the issue of illegal immigration. Sadly, I am not hopeful. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:04:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:10:13 AM EDT
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Copy/paste from the dupe thread:
I have personally witnessed the dumping of garbage on the side of the road by those of Mexican descent. I have seen them run from cars they stole, drove to an almond orchard, stripped, and then burned. The last year I was there, we had 4 shootings within a few blocks of the school by Mexican gang members. In the four years I worked in a central California school, money was spent every year on new curriculum for teaching English to non-speakers while our science and social studies texts were so old we coudn't even use them any more. I watched as Illegal immigrant students protested when the nation tried to demand more accountability from them, all while recieving a free education and free meals. I had to listed to them badmouth "Americans" and say, "This will be Mexico again". I personally know illegals who would go to the VFW Thanksgiving meal for the poor, even with a Turkey sitting at home in the fridge. They have become experts at milking the system for all it's worth. I'm so glad I'm not there any more.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:13:12 AM EDT
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you mean soon to be STATE with Third World living conditions once Moon Beam and Newsome take over Sad to see California in such a state. A lot of things need to fixed in that state. The craziest part is that California got where it is because a bunch of people said the exact same thing you did... And then someone let 'em try. 
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:28:53 AM EDT
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And now boys and girls, a short civics lesson:
I have lived in Texas (El Paso) and southern new mexico (Santa Teresa/Las Cruces and now Monticello). We have down here what are called 'colonias' which to put it bluntly are mini-slums sanctioned by local governments. A 'developer' buys a chunk of poor land (ususally desert), subdivides it into small parcials and sells them off cheap. The poor folks (no race named) purchase and move in (tents, trailers, shacks, etc.). Note there are no roads, water, sanatiation, etc. When the population rises to a certain level, the (usually county) government steps in and levies excess tax's on everyone to develop improvements. Oh, and if you say anything, protest or otherwise make a fuss, you are labled 'racest' - these are just poor folks trying to 'live the american dream'. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:31:46 AM EDT
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from the comments:
I applied for educational and media-based jobs all over Fresno in the early 1990s. (I applied to be a theater professor at your Cal State Fresno.) The jobs all called for bilinguality, and after 28 months in Mexico, I spoke fluent Spanish. In every case, I was told no Anglos need apply. So I changed my name to Reinaldo Garcia. I am a fourth generation Californian who has to masquerade as a Latino.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:34:33 AM EDT
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We tried to fix it along time ago with Prop 187. Of course, that was found unconstitutional in FEDERAL court and never appealed any higher.
Our state would have been a much different place had that law been enforced. Most everyone I know here in California that runs a business has a 5 year plan to get out. Conservative or Liberal, it doesn't seem to matter. When we go to downtown Los Angeles, to the garment district, the place is buzzing with people shopping, doing business on the sidewalks, mulling around with their kids in tow. I've told my wife on many occasions that it is a different world and economy down there. It is being supported by the taxpayers and the dollars are being kept within their own community, whether it's here or wired back home. I cannot imagine the amount of money being received as welfare that is being wired back home to other countries... Eric 
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:37:05 AM EDT
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Fresno’s California State University campus is embroiled in controversy over the student body president’s announcing that he is an illegal alien, with all the requisite protests in favor of the DREAM Act. I won’t comment on the legislation per se, but again only note the anomaly. I taught at CSUF for 21 years. I think it fair to say that the predominant theme of the Chicano and Latin American Studies program’s sizable curriculum was a fuzzy American culpability. By that I mean that students in those classes heard of the sins of America more often than its attractions. In my home town, Mexican flag decals on car windows are far more common than their American counterparts.
I note this because hundreds of students here illegally are now terrified of being deported to Mexico. I can understand that, given the chaos in Mexico and their own long residency in the United States. But here is what still confuses me: If one were to consider the classes that deal with Mexico at the university, or the visible displays of national chauvinism, then one might conclude that Mexico is a far more attractive and moral place than the United States. So there is a surreal nature to these protests: something like, “Please do not send me back to the culture I nostalgically praise; please let me stay in the culture that I ignore or deprecate.” Assimilate or leave. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:44:20 AM EDT
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Why my parents and brothers still live there I don't know.... I have family there too... it's still a beautiful state with a wonderful climate, beaches, mountains, scenery, etc.. They've shown no sign of even wanting to relocate. They put politics aside and just live their lives as best they can in the best way they know how. Not like they're impoverished and can't leave or need the state .gov for subsistence. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:46:37 AM EDT
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With that Cap and Tax bill you all have the final nail in the coffin will be struck. Good luck you poor bastards.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:06:47 AM EDT
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National Review December 15, 2010 Two Californias By Victor Davis Hanson Abandoned farms, Third World living conditions, pervasive public assistance –– welcome to the once-thriving Central Valley. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/255320/two-californias-victor-davis-hanson?page=1 As always VDH is a must read but this particular article is indeed sobering. There are times when I think our fate is sealed and nothing can stop it, after reading that I'm in that mindset again. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:34:00 AM EDT
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That foodstamp map posted by Paul (which comes from the New York Times BTW) appears designed to give a misleading impression from the shades of color it uses. A lot of the darkest areas are also the most depopulated so it is not really informative of where the greatest use is. (The article it comes from proudly states that foodstamps no longer have a stigma to them; it's a biased article with a pro big government bent. Of course they want to show that NY and CA don't really use foodstamps so they change the shading and how they are calculating it).
Here is another foodstamp map (this time from the "West Coast Poverty Center") that gives a different perspective. From the earlier map you would have concluded that NYC, CA, PA and FL were almost devoid of foodstamp use.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:40:19 AM EDT
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Fortunately, a judge threw out the environmental's rationale for shutting off the water supply last week after finding the delta smelt (a little fucking fish) is not endangered. I hope the water starts flowing soon. For many it will be too late as hundreds of orchards are already dead. Extreme environmentalism destroys lives. Of those left, who will invest big bucks to carry on, knowing that down the road another whacko suit may put them back in the same situation? |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 8:01:51 AM EDT
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Of those left, who will invest big bucks to carry on, knowing that down the road another whacko suit may put them back in the same situation? Under this administration (or any other, I believe), the EPA and other bureaucrats will NEVER give up. They have been given power and a road map to enslave the citizens of this country and they won't stop. TC |
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