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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:01:13 PM EDT
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Putting people in jail for not meeting requirements that shouldn't be necessary in the first place. Gotta love when the state doubles down on stupid. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:01:14 PM EDT
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I guess high school English teachers need jail time for shorting students on their First Amendment training.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:04:23 PM EDT
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Ridiculous sentence.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:08:56 PM EDT
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Putting people in jail for not meeting requirements that shouldn't be necessary in the first place. Gotta love when the state doubles down on stupid. Yup, ridiculous law that was followed by ridiculous prosecution. The only carry permit you should need is the Second Amendment. I'm so sick of a government that is hostile to its own citizens through these social engineering victimless crimes. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:20:08 PM EDT
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Is there another "crime" that is as vigilantly prosecuted as that of anything to do with firearms?
The .gov will burn you to the ground quicker if you fail to cross a 't' or dot an 'i' with guns, but will let murderers, child molesters and drug dealers walk. Time after time. 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:21:28 PM EDT
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How many felons were jailed for failed background checks this year?
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:23:00 PM EDT
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How many felons were jailed for failed background checks this year? I think the actual figure is close to zero. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:24:18 PM EDT
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Had a local guy cutting his classes short. All of his students for years back were notified that they needed to go through the class with a different instructor or their CWP would be revoked.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:26:05 PM EDT
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That's going to happen when you have 7hrs of material but are mandated to have a 12 hour course.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:28:23 PM EDT
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That's going to happen when you have 7hrs of material but are mandated to have a 12 hour course. Breaks and bullshit convos help. We had a guy lose his instructors certification because he added some info about holsters and other helpful info. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:41:13 PM EDT
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That's going to happen when you have 7hrs of material but are mandated to have a 12 hour course. I would have given them a double feature of "Heat" and then "Collateral" to finish out the class. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:43:15 PM EDT
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Is there another "crime" that is as vigilantly prosecuted as that of anything to do with firearms? The .gov will burn you to the ground if you attempt to be a law abiding citizen quicker if you fail to cross a 't' or dot an 'i' with guns, but will let murderers, child molesters and drug dealers walk. Time after time.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:50:01 PM EDT
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I would have given them a double feature of "Heat" and then "Collateral" to finish out the class. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's going to happen when you have 7hrs of material but are mandated to have a 12 hour course. I would have given them a double feature of "Heat" and then "Collateral" to finish out the class. And an extra hour of "Hey Homie, is that my briefcase?" replays. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:53:06 PM EDT
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That's going to happen when you have 7hrs of material but are mandated to have a 12 hour course. They just assume you're going to fill the other 5 hours with personal anecdotes and tales of your general badassery. 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:07:21 PM EDT
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Ah, Lima. A place so fucked up, they had to have 2 Walmarts to contain the crazy.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:13:07 PM EDT
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Harsh, but then again they knew the rules going into the game. Being a crybaby after getting busted doesn't gain sympathy from me
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:18:40 PM EDT
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Harsh, but then again they knew the rules going into the game. Being a crybaby after getting busted doesn't gain sympathy from me But a felony charge? |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:22:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ridiculous sentence. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:22:59 PM EDT
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Harsh, but then again they knew the rules going into the game. Being a crybaby after getting busted doesn't gain sympathy from me  Own worst enemies.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:25:05 PM EDT
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ours had an attorney speak to kill some time and extra range time too
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:34:35 PM EDT
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Harsh, but then again they knew the rules going into the game. Being a crybaby after getting busted doesn't gain sympathy from me But a felony charge? No kidding.  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:41:15 PM EDT
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That's going to happen when you have 7hrs of material but are mandated to have a 12 hour course. Yep. They are probably going to reduce the hours by law soon, which makes this situation even dumber. The 12 hour requirement was a load of garbage to begin with, nothing more than a deterrent for people who don't have the time to set aside just to be able to exercise their rights.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:55:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:58:45 PM EDT
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Ridiculous sentence. Gordon is the former Ottawa and Kalida police chief who was convicted of two felonies in 2010 and sentenced to a year in prison, only to have the charges of two counts of theft in office overturned on appeal.
I wonder if the above had something to do with it. The prosecutor was pissed that the guy won the appeal on those charges and Gordon was such a genius he decided to break the law again giving the prosecutor a chance to drive it up his ass. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:02:03 PM EDT
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They just assume you're going to fill the other 5 hours with personal anecdotes and tales of your general badassery. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's going to happen when you have 7hrs of material but are mandated to have a 12 hour course. They just assume you're going to fill the other 5 hours with personal anecdotes and tales of your general badassery. That leaves 4 hours and 45 minutes...
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:04:44 PM EDT
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I guess high school English teachers need jail time for shorting students on their First Amendment training. Very astute of you. 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:05:31 PM EDT
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Fuck places that require training for CCW..
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:06:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many felons were jailed for failed background checks this year? |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:08:19 PM EDT
[#29]
FPNI! What a load of shit!
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:10:11 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, Al Sharpton owes millions in taxes.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:10:46 PM EDT
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How did I know this was going to be Ohio.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:12:23 PM EDT
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I wonder if the above had something to do with it. The prosecutor was pissed that the guy won the appeal on those charges and Gordon was such a genius he decided to break the law again giving the prosecutor a chance to drive it up his ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ridiculous sentence. Gordon is the former Ottawa and Kalida police chief who was convicted of two felonies in 2010 and sentenced to a year in prison, only to have the charges of two counts of theft in office overturned on appeal.
I wonder if the above had something to do with it. The prosecutor was pissed that the guy won the appeal on those charges and Gordon was such a genius he decided to break the law again giving the prosecutor a chance to drive it up his ass. I would bet on it, he got the former chief hook up from a judge and that stuck in the prosecutor's craw, so they went looking for anything to burn him on. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:13:05 PM EDT
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As in trying to buy a firearm? Not a crime to try, I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How many felons were jailed for failed background checks this year? Lying on the 4473 is a crime. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:16:01 PM EDT
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That's what they get for not having a Gun vs Weapon debate. That's a good 2 hours of fussing right there.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:17:38 PM EDT
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I thought for sure this was going to be in Illinois.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:17:51 PM EDT
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Not sure how i feel about this. A good instructor can definitely fill 12 hours with useful and topical information.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:21:25 PM EDT
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That's what they get for not having a Gun vs Weapon debate. That's a good 2 hours of fussing right there.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:22:34 PM EDT
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Does this mean that everybody that took their CCW course will have their permits revoked because of improper training ?
Not trying to stir shit, but something similar happened here and everybody that took the training had to retake the course on their own dime because their certificates were deemed useless and voided. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:36:32 PM EDT
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That leaves 4 hours and 45 minutes...
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That's going to happen when you have 7hrs of material but are mandated to have a 12 hour course. They just assume you're going to fill the other 5 hours with personal anecdotes and tales of your general badassery. That leaves 4 hours and 45 minutes...
Lol Yeah 15 minutes is generous. Maybe I burn up time and make extra money during the range time by hustling the class members on the dueling tree. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:40:52 PM EDT
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I was so hung over in my class. My inductor gave me shit for two missed shots after I gave up. One raged hole and two fuck this shit.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:46:22 PM EDT
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Ending class 2hrs early? Lol, there's a big name in Licking County who only does a 4hr class
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:50:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does this mean that everybody that took their CCW course will have their permits revoked because of improper training ? Not trying to stir shit, but something similar happened here and everybody that took the training had to retake the course on their own dime because their certificates were deemed useless and voided. I believe that is what Ohio's law requires to happen
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:52:44 PM EDT
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Politically motivated prosecution.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:55:25 PM EDT
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Does this mean that everybody that took their CCW course will have their permits revoked because of improper training ? Not trying to stir shit, but something similar happened here and everybody that took the training had to retake the course on their own dime because their certificates were deemed useless and voided. It happened here although the Sheriff (who shoots USPSA with my club sometimes) had his department firearms instructor set up free (but mandatory) correct courses so the students would maintain their certification. I can't find a news story now but the instructor got caught when a student went to the courthouse the day of the class to get licensed. A clerk realized there was no way the class could be completed if the guy was there to get his license. Instructor was doing an 8 hour class in two hours. I'm against certification but the instructor is a
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:55:56 PM EDT
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We talked Rush Limbaugh in my class.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:06:52 AM EDT
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Felony is absurd. Misdemeanor with a $250 fine and loss of whatever credentials to teach classes seems more in line.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:10:47 AM EDT
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Is there another "crime" that is as vigilantly prosecuted as that of anything to do with firearms? The .gov will burn you to the ground quicker if you fail to cross a 't' or dot an 'i' with guns, but will let murderers, child molesters and drug dealers walk. Time after time.
Tax evasion (if you are Joe Average). But that's about all. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:15:43 AM EDT
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Is there another "crime" that is as vigilantly prosecuted as that of anything to do with firearms? The .gov will burn you to the ground quicker if you fail to cross a 't' or dot an 'i' with guns, but will let murderers, child molesters and drug dealers walk. Time after time.
millions of them walking right across the border regularly |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:16:45 AM EDT
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millions of them walking right across the border regularly Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is there another "crime" that is as vigilantly prosecuted as that of anything to do with firearms? The .gov will burn you to the ground quicker if you fail to cross a 't' or dot an 'i' with guns, but will let murderers, child molesters and drug dealers walk. Time after time.
millions of them walking right across the border regularly 
We don't exactly have "vigilant prosecution" of that. I think you misread. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:20:10 AM EDT
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Politically motivated prosecution. Yeah, this reeks. |
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