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Posted: 10/12/2004 7:20:26 PM EST
*don't hotlink*

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1045304&mesg_id=1045304



We see them and their ideology as a threat to our well-being, our sanity and our future - they feel the same about us.

Is there any common ground left? Or is the "cold civil war" a sad reality?

Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:21:32 PM EST
Fuck 'em. We're the ones with the guns.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:26:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Fuck 'em. We're the ones with the guns.



They're breeding faster than we are.

Our children may very well be the last generation to know such things as a RKBA.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:30:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Fuck 'em. We're the ones with the guns.



They're breeding faster than we are.

Our children may very well be the last generation to know such things as a RKBA.



They are spreading, granted some are breeding faster. But most schools spew liberial garbage to everyone there.

I dont know if breeding is the correct word.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:35:01 PM EST
hahahahahahha that cracked me up. Lol its funny hearing them say the republican party is going to fall apart.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:36:20 PM EST
That's right, they are attempting to shove Conservativism out of existence through the media, schools, college, the media, etc.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:36:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:


Our children may very well be the last generation to know such things as a RKBA.




Sundown at Coffin Rock

Sunrise at Coffin Rock – Part II
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:38:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Fuck 'em. We're the ones with the guns.




YEEE FUCKIN HA... I agree... tell them to keep spreading AIDs among their faggoty, anti-military force friends while we protect THEIR civil liberties.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:39:02 PM EST
when the civil war comes there will be nothing 'cold' about it. I have long thought that the war that is coming wont be a people vs the gov war but a people vs the people war. And unlike the civil war of the 1800's there will be no clear cut battle lines, no north vs south etc. Much as I hate to admit it the VC were able to beat a larger and technologically better enemy in the United States. If we learned anything then maybe we can do the same against our enemies.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:41:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 7:44:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By Cypher214:
That's right, they are attempting to shove Conservativism out of existence through the media, schools, college, the media, etc.



I think it is causing alot of young people to rebel and come to our side.

There is a very well established liberal/socialist "system" in this country. By not being a liberal, you are "fighting the system".
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 8:20:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:
I hate the blue states.

I would be willing to forgive all y'all Yankees, if you would just join with us and push them blue states into the sea!

Offer void where prohibited by law.

Eric The(Well?)Hun



Hey, some of us still live here.

Of course, this is why we need a very weak federal govt. Let people choose how they want their state to run, if you want a socialist state, fine, if you want a libertarian state, fine, but don't let the feds screw that all up. It is the only way our nation will survive for very much longer. One more election like this one, especially if Kerry wins and they come for the guns, I see a civil war brewing.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 8:39:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By JeffersonDarcy:

Originally Posted By Cypher214:
That's right, they are attempting to shove Conservativism out of existence through the media, schools, college, the media, etc.



I think it is causing alot of young people to rebel and come to our side.

There is a very well established liberal/socialist "system" in this country. By not being a liberal, you are "fighting the system".



You are exactly right!

Around here, where the majority are libs, the repubs are getting the "rebels".
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:07:53 AM EST
So does anyone see a way to heal and come together as a Nation?


I don't
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:09:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By Ratters:

Of course, this is why we need a very weak federal govt. Let people choose how they want their state to run, if you want a socialist state, fine, if you want a libertarian state, fine, but don't let the feds screw that all up.



No more need be added..
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:20:59 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:23:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
*don't hotlink*




Why not? It's not like the average poster on DU has access to DU's server logs and can thus tell when we've linked to a thread there.


I suppose DU's admin could notify his membership of such links and ask them to come troll here, but I seriously doubt that happens.


Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:25:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
*don't hotlink*




Why not? It's not like the average poster on DU has access to DU's server logs and can thus tell when we've linked to a thread there.


I suppose DU's admin could notify his membership of such links and ask them to come troll here, but I seriously doubt that happens.




\


Goatboy has specifically requested NO HOTLINKS TO DU


So, I'll respect that.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:32:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Goatboy has specifically requested NO HOTLINKS TO DU


So, I'll respect that.





Me too.

I'm just curious if anyone other than GB knows the reason for the request.

Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:36:08 AM EST
Man, those guys are delusional. It's their party that's on the way out, and it's their fault that it's going out. Republican HQs are under attack right now. I have to wonder what these guys are going to do if Bush wins in a landslide.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:37:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
*don't hotlink*




Why not? It's not like the average poster on DU has access to DU's server logs and can thus tell when we've linked to a thread there.


I suppose DU's admin could notify his membership of such links and ask them to come troll here, but I seriously doubt that happens.



i've wondered the same.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:39:32 AM EST
The gap widens every day......
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:41:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So does anyone see a way to heal and come together as a Nation?


I don't



Is there a way to heal and come together as one nation? Sure there is, compromise.
Will it happen? Probably not.
People are no longer willing to compromise. It's all or nothing.
What happens when you do compromise? Let's look at the 2nd amendment for example.

Gun owners compromise and decide to accept "reasonable gun control." i.e. national registry, in depth back ground checks (waiting periods), even outright bans on those guns determined to be "evil." Where does the compromise end? Just at those three things? No. Once those three things happen it becomes easier for the left to push the rest of their agenda. Will they be happy with JUST a national registry? No. Were they happy when there was a ban on "assault weapons?" No. They got something they wanted and immediately went after the rest.

Those are compromises, but the left only sees it as a step on the way to the goal, not the end. The right sees it as an invasion of individual rights, not a compromise. The right is justifiably "paranoid" that the left will simpy continue their push.

Similar examples could be given for just about everything, but I think this one illustrates the point quite well. Neither side wants to compromise on ANYTHING anymore.

If we allow this "fabulous" socialized health care the dims are all crazy about, would they back off of our guns? Nope. Two seperate issues. Neither side is going to concede either of them, but THAT is a compromise.

So in short, is there a way to come together? Yes. Do I see it happening? No.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:57:51 AM EST
i really cannot stand the dems, the majority of them do not even know how to run an honorable campaign, one without violence and vandalism
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:10:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 7:11:25 AM EST by 30calTBLkid]
du post:
will fracture after this election no matter who wins. The Neo Fascists, anti-Christ Right Wing and the Paleo-Conservatives are barely keeping this party together. If the Bush Admin. doesn't acceed to the Fundie demands they have threatened to start a 3rd Party. I hope that they do. Isn't the "Constitution Party" Right Wing enough for them?

If it comes down to an actual hot war with these fascists I am willing to be on the barricades.


If it comes down to an actual hot war with these fascists I am willing to be on the barricades.
_________________________________________________________________________________________



hmmm.


I WANT HIM ON THE "BARRICADES"!!! I'll use his body for cover.

Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:13:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Goatboy has specifically requested NO HOTLINKS TO DU


So, I'll respect that.





Me too.

I'm just curious if anyone other than GB knows the reason for the request.




No one else needs to. It's his board. Period.

Hasn't this been beaten to death already?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:15:00 AM EST
Those bastards are willing to move to another country to avoid "us" ... lets force them to! we certainly will never leave!

Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:15:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So does anyone see a way to heal and come together as a Nation?


I don't



Sure! Kill all the liberals!

Hey...... You asked!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:15:16 AM EST
Actually due to birth control and abortion, the liberals of America are worried that they are dying out.

Elitest liberals tend to have fewer kids and later in life.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:20:02 AM EST
I am shocked at how personal and nasty people are getting in this election.
I have never seen the country so divided, not even during Viet Nam did people literally want to KILL each other over a variance in politics.
I have seen people on both sides actually wish DEATH upon fellow Americans for holding the opposite view.
This is utterly un-American.
We are ALL Americans first and foremost, and we have the absolute right to whatever opinions we may choose to hold.
I suppose you all are cheering that perhaps half of the folks killed on 9/11 were Democrats?
Shame on both sides for being so hateful over something as controlled and bought-off as politics.
Americans need to stand together, not be divided by something as stupid as partisan politics.
Hell, both parties are bought and paid for by the corporations anyway.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:21:15 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:36:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Sure! Kill all the liberals!
Hey...... You asked! hinking.gif



We don't DO that here in the United States, Zaphod, what are you from Cuba or something? heirPlease keep this in mind.
This is not yet a fascist theocratic state, no matter how much some of you wish it was.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:02:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hexagonal:



We are ALL Americans first and foremost, and we have the absolute right to whatever opinions we may choose to hold.




No, we arent' all Americans.


THEY are communists 1st, Americans last.


Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:11:25 AM EST
Most of them are American citizens, same as you.
Their difference of opinion is one of our rights as American citizens.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:11:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hexagonal:
I am shocked at how personal and nasty people are getting in this election.
I have never seen the country so divided, not even during Viet Nam did people literally want to KILL each other over a variance in politics.
I have seen people on both sides actually wish DEATH upon fellow Americans for holding the opposite view.
This is utterly un-American.



BullS**t.

This is as American as the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Kansa-Missouri fighting that preceeded the Civil War, the duels during the California Gold Rush, the range wars, southern fueds, etc.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:16:12 AM EST
unfortunately, its like two stupid dogs in a pit. both are the same and are fighting over nothing.

"how could you possbly vote for tweedle-dee, he will destroy this country. im voting for tweedle - dumb"

-------------------------------------
B. latant
U. nrepentant
S. ocialist
H. ypocrite
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:16:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By 30calTBLkid:
du post:
{snip}
If it comes down to an actual hot war with these fascists I am willing to be on the barricades.
_________________________________________________________________________________________



hmmm.


I WANT HIM ON THE "BARRICADES"!!! I'll use his body for cover.




Me too, it will make it easyer to pick him off.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:19:57 AM EST
So, you think Americans killing other Americans over different politics as a positive and historic thing.
Are you a member of Al Qaeda, perhaps?
Or some other nation or group that wishes to divide us and let us kill each other by infighting?
Do you realize how vulnerable a civil war/insurrection would make us?
Is it worth it to you, if we are then invaded by a foreign nation?
Think it through, please.

"E Pluribus, Unum"
Out of many, one.

ONE
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:29:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 8:29:47 AM EST by Scottman]

Originally Posted By Hexagonal:

"E Pluribus, Unum"
Out of many, one.

ONE



Would that "ONE" be the African Americans? or the Hispanic/Latino Americans? Which group is the "one." You see, that is part of the problem as earlier pointed out by Doublefeed.

And re: your insinuation of any of us cheering on 9/11/01 because the dead may be democrat, let me just say, FUCK OFF Troll.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:30:48 AM EST

If it comes down to an actual hot war with these fascists I am willing to be on the barricades.




you gonna beat me to death with your protest sign?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:30:57 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:31:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hexagonal:
Most of them are American citizens, same as you.
Their difference of opinion is one of our rights as American citizens.



Okay, let's break it down. The Democrats for the most part want to control your life from the cradle to the grave. The Republicans seem to represent smaller govt. (used to at least). So you are saying that those who want to enslave you and take away freedom are not DOMESTIC ENEMIES OF THE CONSTITUTION, they merely have a different opinion.

Man, I bet Adolph Hitler would have loved to have you in Reichstag.

96Ag
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:36:09 AM EST
2005 is just around the bend
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:38:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hexagonal:


Most of them are American citizens, same as you.
Their difference of opinion is one of our rights as American citizens.




A difference of opinion, I'm fine with.


THEM actively working to undermine our Constitution, our Rights, our way of life and our Country, I can't stand.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:50:09 AM EST
there's not going to be any shooting. americans are lazy, passive, slobs at this point in our evolution.

there aren't any issues worth shooting over.

i'm not gonna smoke a politician/doctor/justice because my girl can/can't have an abortion

race? not going to be an issue soon. your 15yo daughter is dating a black guy as we speak.

guns? gun control is going to continue incrementally. i don't see ar15 becoming militia hq anytime soon. how many of you put a bayonet on their post ban and paraded it on the steps of the lincoln memorial? i didn't see anyone "voting from the rooftops" in '94.

people are willing to give up fundamental freedoms to stay fat and happy.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:52:45 AM EST
druncuncas! YOU SON OF BITCH!!!

you may be right.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:53:59 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:57:20 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:01:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:05:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
[They're breeding faster than we are.





And you guys (red shirts) are AGAINST planned parenthood (at least funing for groups such as)?

More kids growing up on welfare = more adults looking for govt. handouts = more Democrat voters.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:09:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 9:09:41 AM EST by fight4yourrights]

Originally Posted By ANGST:


And you guys (red shirts) are AGAINST planned parenthood (at least funing for groups such as)?

More kids growing up on welfare = more adults looking for govt. handouts = more Democrat voters.




That a tougher call, but I'm for Life.


I think more education, more pregnancy prevention, and more legal adoptions.

My wife and I are college educated, high income, and can't have kids. We don't adopt largely because of the expense and the nightmare of adoption today.

Almost everyone I know that has adopted has had to go overseas, and that's still a nightmare.

If my taxes weren't supporting all those single moms, they would need to give up their children for adoption, which IMO would be a far better thing than having a 15 y/o raise a baby.
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