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Posted: 2/24/2006 6:25:04 PM EDT


(SIGH) This is exactly the kind of stuff we need to fight against ( rationally and intelligently of course, leave the thoughtless, emotional fanaticism to the libs)

http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:39:47 PM EDT
It's a damn good thing I don't live in San Fransico. They actually try to out kook each other. Totally against racism unless it's the Jews of course.

Can't wait for the next Earthquake. Maybe that abomination of a city will disappear.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:46:17 PM EDT
I love it. I will defend these Americans to the end. Their existance means that we still live in a country where it's citizens still have the right to free speech.

'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,' Voltaire

I despise the message that these misguided, hate filled, narrow minded idiots are sending, but I am glad they are able to and proud to defend that right.

Freedom of speech means all speech.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 3:52:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 6:19:59 AM EDT by IceHandLuke]
free speech just lets us know who sides people are on. Evil has a voice so whats the big deal. Its always shown its face during dark times like we are in now in America. So i guess its ok to some to let little boys see grown men paint each others ball sack and say its just free speech? Like hell, that stuff should be shut down chop chop if that city had one care in world about how that young boy is going to grow up.

When you are in the fight for your life as we are in now I dont see anything about what they are saying as "American". To me its looking pretty "Un-American". To be a US citizian is one thing but to be American is something different all together.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 4:06:27 AM EDT
Pretty sick stuff
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 4:55:51 AM EDT
<pissed off>I wonder how many of those that were saying "support armed resistance everywhere" would actually take up arms in defense of the constitution here, or would just complain about the bus lines to the fema camps.<pissed off/>
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 4:51:46 PM EDT
I hate liberals and i don't care for protesters i disaggree with all them he
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 5:13:03 PM EDT
perhaps someday American will get tired of protesters and deal with them accordingly...it is something similar to tying to live happily with a cancerous tumor... you tolerate it until you can't anymore and then it has to be cut out...
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 2:12:06 PM EDT
let me precede the following with a clear statement, I completely disagree with everything in those pictures, now that that is out of the way...

You CAN'T selectively enforce free speech, if i've said it once i've said it 1,000 times. It just can't be done, if you believe in free speech, you must recognize these peoples right to say what they feel (I use the word feel deliberately because most of them are obvioulsy incapable of rational thought). Do you know what they call a place where the authorities break up protests under the guise of them being "damaging to national solidarity", give up? They are called police states, if you are really proposing we throw out the bill of rights and replace it with a police state, then you are just as guilty as the morons holding up the pro-communist signs. Just think about it, if you are really a rational being you will recognize the folly, if you aren't then you are merely the oppositon counterpart to the people in those pictures.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 2:32:37 PM EDT

Androgynous anti-war protester at the "Breasts Not Bombs" march.


scary but very true
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:03:38 PM EDT
Unfortunately, in a free country you're bound to hear and see a lot of things you don't like or agree with.

Part of the price of freedom.

I think one of the big differences between libs and others. Is libs are quick to jump to violence and other sane people only resort to violence as a last resort.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:39:49 PM EDT
so if two men have sex in the open during a peace march and call it free speech because they want to "Fuck or peace" and its right in front of a school thats cool with you guys because they called it "speech"

Just because someone puts the word "speech" in front of what they are doing does not make it speech. we are out of control and this was never what our founding fathers wanted our country to become. never.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:50:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By IceHandLuke:
so if two men have sex in the open during a peace march and call it free speech because they want to "Fuck or peace" and its right in front of a school thats cool with you guys because they called it "speech"

Just because someone puts the word "speech" in front of what they are doing does not make it speech. we are out of control and this was never what our founding fathers wanted our country to become. never.



It is symbolic speech according to SCOTUS
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 4:01:09 PM EDT
It's been true all along.
The Cold War is not over.
We are still fighting Communism.
They always have been, and always will be, the most dangerous of enemies.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 4:14:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By IceHandLuke:
so if two men have sex in the open during a peace march and call it free speech because they want to "Fuck or peace" and its right in front of a school thats cool with you guys because they called it "speech"

Just because someone puts the word "speech" in front of what they are doing does not make it speech. we are out of control and this was never what our founding fathers wanted our country to become. never.



It certainly is an unfortunate side-effect, but the alternative is far worse .
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 4:46:20 PM EDT
Well in that particular instance, while they have every right to free speech, they should be taken to jail for violating various statuates. IE: Indecent exposure...etc et al
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 8:49:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By abe:
I hate liberals and i don't care for protesters i disaggree with all them he



Sarcasm I hope.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 9:07:03 PM EDT
I am ashamed by them and for them and on so many levels. I am nearly speechless.

God bless America,
Land that I love.
Stand beside her,
And guide her,
With a light
That will shine
From above.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:07:12 PM EDT
Holy Bat shit! I never looked at the whole page, I thought it was just pics of anti anti's protesting the anything. There is some truely sick crap on there. Anything promoting sedition, treason, or is otherwise illeagl should be taken care of properly by law enforcement.

I still agree with their right to protest and exercise their freedom of speech, but I am pretty sure public display of scrotum inflation is not covered.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:13:27 AM EDT
My eyes!

Why is it, that when I see the terms "Berkely" and "Protest", I know I'm going to see naked old guys with saggy balls, and not so old naked "womyn" with saggy tits? And yet I still look at it.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:47:38 PM EDT
I feel like I live in mini San Fran. sometimes.

We had an on campus protest of the war a week or so ago. The "Socialist Union" blocked recruiting tables during our "Summer Jobs and Internships Fair."

Ahhh yes, the joys of being privelaged, rich, silver-spoon fed idealistic brats.

And apparently, they never grow out of it. What a shame.

They're idiots, but I agree completely with Stryker_11A, they've got the right to say it, and I'll defend it as well.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:56:03 PM EDT
Funny how they have posters of Bush with Hitler, then more posters of Bush with a bunch of Jews He must be the first neo-nazi zionist
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 5:09:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/2/2006 5:18:49 PM EDT by Melvinator2k0]
I still don't understand why they don't compare Bush to Stalin who killed 40 million or Mao who killed 100 million, these goddamn hypocrites will do anything to defend communism and its leaders. These goddamn hypocrites are the ones that are power hungry because they just hide the fact that communism has killed more than Hitler and all modern war combined. I just cant stand it. This is a war between capitalism and communism.


I have more to say. These goddamn hypocrites are devout atheist and complain that "Zionist" Christians are forcing their religion on everybody, when is the last time any christian group protested demanding everyone be christian, using obscenities and blocking traffic. These goddamn hypocrites are such devout communists but don't you find it ironic that the "Che" shirt company and communist "book" authors are raking in tons of profits from these idiots.

sorry, that was my venting for today.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 5:13:14 PM EDT
It's a war between sanity and an officially unrecognized mental illness. One of those drug companies needs to get working on a prozac for liberals, that will get the thoughts right in their head.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 6:30:49 AM EDT
The funny thing is if the bad guys (Can’t call them what they are it might offend someone) win this entire people supporting them would be stoned
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 9:33:35 AM EDT
Free Speech is not an ABSOLUTE right, it HAS some qualifiers.

Our first amendment rights include freedom of assembly - but that doesn't mean 2 or more people have the constitutional right to assemble ANYWHERE they happen to want to... try "assembling" with your buddies in any restricted .gov area, like Langley for instance.

Also, there's kiddie pron... obviously some form of communication is illegal, as is libel and other uses of the means of communication. Just because A right exists doesn't mean that ANYONE'S INDIVIDUAL INTERPETATION OF IT IS INSTANTLY THE CORRECT, LEGAL ONE.

It's a federal offense to even joke about having a bomb when you are in an airport. It's illegal to even joke about assassinating the president....

Not that people don't do both things. But their "speech" is illegal.

As far as POLITICAL PROTESTS go, you have both freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, and freedom to request redress of the government for wrongs....all exercised.

If this is done in a peaceful way (i.e. no anarchists attacking passerbys, speakers not calling for violence and bloodshed, and 'redress' is what is sought not revolution.....) then "it's American."

But how could it be "American" if the speakers call for the death-by-mob to political opponents? Or call for our foreign enemies to come and kill their political opponents? Is it "American" to claim one's political opponents don't have any civil or human rights; such as the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty"

No, it's much more "American" to stand up before a frothing at the mouth mob and state unequivocally that "the President lied and your kids died....for oil and not for freedom"?

It's American to froth for "Atzlan" - a racially purged nation carved out of the Western US by force of bullets and birthrate? How so?

How it is "American" to advance for example the cause of a future government that is non-democratic?

Is it "American" as in "according to values upon which this nation was founded" to proclaim moral relativism on the one hand while surreptiously establishing dogmatic moral codes (PC)? The founding fathers and indeed constitutional system itself PRESUPPOSES THAT HUMAN BEINGS CAN COME TO KNOW THE OBJECTIVE TRUTH, SUCH AS THERE ARE SELFEVIDENT truths about the human race....

I'm willing to acknowledge a crowds' right to peacefully assemble and say things with which I disagree - provided again they do so peacefully. But I won't say "Oh that speech's CONTENT is "American" because someone who happens to be an American citizen or greencard holder says it while at a protest.

After all, is it not possible for someone to say something 'un-american'?
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 12:56:01 AM EDT
I think we should thank God that the worst thing that can happen to these scum is ridicule.

In a less "free" place, they'd be executed in the street for displays like this.

Ain't that great? In America, even the lowest form of life on earth still has rights.

I love it.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 1:05:58 AM EDT
I think that's the first time in my life that I've seen pictures of breasts and wanted to puke.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 1:08:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PanzerMK7:
let me precede the following with a clear statement, I completely disagree with everything in those pictures, now that that is out of the way...

You CAN'T selectively enforce free speech, if i've said it once i've said it 1,000 times. It just can't be done, if you believe in free speech, you must recognize these peoples right to say what they feel (I use the word feel deliberately because most of them are obvioulsy incapable of rational thought). Do you know what they call a place where the authorities break up protests under the guise of them being "damaging to national solidarity", give up? They are called police states, if you are really proposing we throw out the bill of rights and replace it with a police state, then you are just as guilty as the morons holding up the pro-communist signs. Just think about it, if you are really a rational being you will recognize the folly, if you aren't then you are merely the oppositon counterpart to the people in those pictures.



your point is valid, except for one thing....they are calling for insurrection, worldwide. that is a call to arms. at what point are we allowed to defend our nation and constitution, only after they start shooting people, blowing up buildings here in the US or renting large SUVs and driving through crowds, screaming some ALLAH AHKBUR bs?
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 4:29:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By viahj:

your point is valid, except for one thing....they are calling for insurrection, worldwide. that is a call to arms. at what point are we allowed to defend our nation and constitution, only after they start shooting people, blowing up buildings here in the US or renting large SUVs and driving through crowds, screaming some ALLAH AHKBUR bs?



In my opinion, unless their words can be demonstrated to be immediately harmful to someone, it is protected speech, I hate to use the old cliche of yelling "fire" in a crowded building, but it is a good example of the principle. I know it seems puzzling sometimes, but we can't yield one bit on this, for the same reason we can't yield even a bit to the anti's. There are people out there who can't be compromised with, and any attempt just encourages them, this goes for 1st amendment, just as much as for the 2nd. There just can't be any "reasonable restrictions" on issues like these.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 4:42:29 PM EDT
so if this were 1942 and people walked up and down main street with nazi flags and uniforms we would not do anything about it as a nation? When a nation is at war things change. People pick sides, its basic stuff. This group is picking its side.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:31:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By IceHandLuke:
so if this were 1942 and people walked up and down main street with nazi flags and uniforms we would not do anything about it as a nation? When a nation is at war things change.



False. Liberty doesn't change because we're in a war. In fact, it's in times like these that liberty is most vulnerable.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:18:16 PM EDT

When a nation is at war things change

Including the defenition of conservatism, it seems.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:26:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By IceHandLuke:
so if this were 1942 and people walked up and down main street with nazi flags and uniforms we would not do anything about it as a nation? When a nation is at war things change. People pick sides, its basic stuff. This group is picking its side.



I'm glad the spirit of liberty and freedom is alive and well in America .
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 3:51:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PanzerMK7:

Originally Posted By IceHandLuke:
so if this were 1942 and people walked up and down main street with nazi flags and uniforms we would not do anything about it as a nation? When a nation is at war things change. People pick sides, its basic stuff. This group is picking its side.



I'm glad the spirit of liberty and freedom is alive and well in America .



I understand what you guys are saying. The ability to speak free is essential to living free. But when anyone starts 'talking' about killing me and my family or 'talks' of taking war to my country. I am not going to just set and let it happen. You can bet that if we are hit again like we were on 9/11 things will change in this country. People are not going to let anyone get away with wishing harm to Americans. Has history been wrong for the last 200+ years and now all of a sudden because we let our enemy walk and talk freely among us that we somehow just now understand the Constitution? This nation is a family of citizens and when people who live here start to hold signs wishing for my brother in the Army in Iraq who is fighting for all of us to be blown up I just need to sit back and say, “hmmm, that’s an interesting perspective on things”.

Never did the men who made this Nation ever stand up for anyone who wished Americans death.

You have the right to life liberty and happiness up until the point your actions effect the lives of others. But that text about the effect of others is never found in the Constitution. It’s because common sense was meant to be a factor when reading it.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 3:56:20 PM EDT
IBTL... for the link to pics of scrotal inflation and naked breasts...

but those pictures help me realize why I love this country... because I don't have to travel off this continent in the event that I snap and feel the need to kill some of the stupidest people on the planet.
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