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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:18:16 AM EDT
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In before the wave of taco recommendations...
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:19:16 AM EDT
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In before the wave of taco recommendations...  yup
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:28:09 AM EDT
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I've been towing a 19 ft bass boat (about 3,500 lbs) with a 4-cyl 2.7L Taco for over 10 years and it does great. V6 on the newer bigger trucks should be more than fine for a small boat. Get one with a Class III hitch bar or put one on yourself.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:29:52 AM EDT
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..... So far this seems to be narrowing it to a Tacoma for me...any other suggestions? ........ No. (just to clarify, no other suggestions.) |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:36:02 AM EDT
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V6 Tacoma, 4x4 and good gas mileage in the same thread? El Oh El...
My 01 F250 crew cab 4x4 7.3 diesel is 1 mpg off from my sons 07 2wd Tacoma 4 door. 15 vs. 16mpg |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:36:49 AM EDT
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Chevy is coming out with a new duramax turbo diesel version of the Colorado this fall/early 2015.
I'm saving for one myself. "Joining the engine lineup in 2015: the highly anticipated 2.8L Duramax® Turbo-Diesel. No other current North American competitor in this class offers a turbo-diesel." Chevy's Site Review of Duramax Diesel And I'd say it's quite good looking for a midsize truck. 
If you prefer GMC they should have a sister version of the truck also with diesel option. GMC 
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:42:06 AM EDT
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I would like to get a midsize pickup. It should get as good or better gas efficiency (real world, not advertised) than the 2010 wrangler I sold before coming out here (about 19 MPG combined). I want an automatic transmission, 4x4, and it should be reasonably capable off road (though that isn't the primary intended use). I want it under $30k. I don't want electric windows, doors, etc. It cannot be union made. So far this seems to be narrowing it to a Tacoma for me...any other suggestions? Also, a V6 is fine for pulling a small boat, right? And could I get away with towing a small horse trailer (2 horses) later on with a V6, or would I then need a V8? I've always had SUVs...school me on pickups. If it's flat where you live then maybe. If there are hills then no, not unless you want to replace transmissions and rearends. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:44:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chevy is coming out with a new duramax turbo diesel version of the Colorado this fall/early 2015. I'm saving for one myself. "Joining the engine lineup in 2015: the highly anticipated 2.8L Duramax® Turbo-Diesel. No other current North American competitor in this class offers a turbo-diesel." Chevy's Site Review of Duramax Diesel And I'd say it's quite good looking for a midsize truck. http://cgi.chevrolet.com/mmgprod-us/dynres/prove/image.gen?i=2015/12V43/12V43__4Z7/G7P_HHI_R28gmds6.jpg&v=deg01&std=true&country=US If you prefer GMC they should have a sister version of the truck also with diesel option. GMC https://www.gmc.com/content/dam/GMC/global/master/nscwebsite/en/home/Vehicles/Future_Vehicles/2015_Canyon/Model_Overview/Colorizer/Exterior3601/Quicksilver_Metallic/01_perspective_img_1.jpg |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:45:58 AM EDT
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Chevy is coming out with a new duramax turbo diesel version of the Colorado this fall/early 2015. I'm saving for one myself. "Joining the engine lineup in 2015: the highly anticipated 2.8L Duramax® Turbo-Diesel. No other current North American competitor in this class offers a turbo-diesel." Chevy's Site Review of Duramax Diesel And I'd say it's quite good looking for a midsize truck. http://cgi.chevrolet.com/mmgprod-us/dynres/prove/image.gen?i=2015/12V43/12V43__4Z7/G7P_HHI_R28gmds6.jpg&v=deg01&std=true&country=US If you prefer GMC they should have a sister version of the truck also with diesel option. GMC https://www.gmc.com/content/dam/GMC/global/master/nscwebsite/en/home/Vehicles/Future_Vehicles/2015_Canyon/Model_Overview/Colorizer/Exterior3601/Quicksilver_Metallic/01_perspective_img_1.jpg I'm not sold on how the thing looks but that diesel has me interested. I can always change how the front looks with a ranch hand or something. OP, can't go wrong with the Tacoma. I'd choose it over any of the midsize trucks out there now. I've owned a 2006 Colorado. Friend had an 08 Taco. Taco > Colorado in every category except cost. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:47:57 AM EDT
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Look for the union label.
Hillary could use your campaign money... |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:49:39 AM EDT
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A truck that gets better than 19mpg? They quit making those years ago...
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:52:24 AM EDT
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Chevy is coming out with a new duramax turbo diesel version of the Colorado this fall/early 2015. I'm saving for one myself. "Joining the engine lineup in 2015: the highly anticipated 2.8L Duramax® Turbo-Diesel. No other current North American competitor in this class offers a turbo-diesel." Chevy's Site Review of Duramax Diesel And I'd say it's quite good looking for a midsize truck. http://cgi.chevrolet.com/mmgprod-us/dynres/prove/image.gen?i=2015/12V43/12V43__4Z7/G7P_HHI_R28gmds6.jpg&v=deg01&std=true&country=US If you prefer GMC they should have a sister version of the truck also with diesel option. GMC Wow, those body lines down the side scream Toyota. https://www.gmc.com/content/dam/GMC/global/master/nscwebsite/en/home/Vehicles/Future_Vehicles/2015_Canyon/Model_Overview/Colorizer/Exterior3601/Quicksilver_Metallic/01_perspective_img_1.jpg |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:53:19 AM EDT
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Tacoma sounds like a good fit, but can you get a 4wd double cab for less than $30k?
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:59:32 AM EDT
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A truck that gets better than 19mpg? They quit making those years ago... My Silverado 1500 2wd gets better than that on the hwy. Average is just under 17mpg. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 6:59:34 AM EDT
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Look for the union label. Hillary could use your campaign money... AlGore's lullaby as a baby. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 7:14:33 AM EDT
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I've been towing a 19 ft bass boat (about 3,500 lbs) with a 4-cyl 2.7L Taco for over 10 years and it does great. V6 on the newer bigger trucks should be more than fine for a small boat. Get one with a Class III hitch bar or put one on yourself. Years ago I towed a Rhodes 19 sailboat with an MGB. 
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Posted: 6/5/2014 7:34:34 AM EDT
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My Silverado 1500 2wd gets better than that on the hwy. Average is just under 17mpg. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A truck that gets better than 19mpg? They quit making those years ago... My Silverado 1500 2wd gets better than that on the hwy. Average is just under 17mpg. my 2012 Ram 4x4 crew cab got 21-22mpg |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:00:04 AM EDT
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So far this seems to be narrowing it to a Tacoma for me...any other suggestions? No. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:09:46 AM EDT
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Unless it's got turbos hanging off of it, a V6 is always shit for towing.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:11:33 AM EDT
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You guys do realize that most of the electricity in this country is connected to union labor right? How many of you are running outside to flip your disconnects?
To answer the OP, you've narrowed it down in the first post. Taco |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:11:50 AM EDT
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[b] So far this seems to be narrowing it to a Tacoma for me...any other suggestions?
. I was a Ford truck guy for 30 years. I looked at them from every angle. I just could...not...do it...Sayonara, Henry... Beware of those Tacomas. Its like joining a cult or something... 
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:13:42 AM EDT
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My Silverado 1500 2wd gets better than that on the hwy. Average is just under 17mpg. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A truck that gets better than 19mpg? They quit making those years ago... My Silverado 1500 2wd gets better than that on the hwy. Average is just under 17mpg. I got 21.5mpg on a 120-mile highway trip last week in my Ecoboost. 17 average overall for the past 2,000 miles. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:19:21 AM EDT
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I was a Ford truck guy for 30 years. I looked at them from every angle. I just could...not...do it...Sayonara, Henry... Beware of those Tacomas. Its like joining a cult or something...
<a href="http://s192.photobucket.com/user/chadwimc/media/truck13_zps814d744e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z64/chadwimc/truck13_zps814d744e.jpg</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
[b] So far this seems to be narrowing it to a Tacoma for me...any other suggestions?
. I was a Ford truck guy for 30 years. I looked at them from every angle. I just could...not...do it...Sayonara, Henry... Beware of those Tacomas. Its like joining a cult or something...
<a href="http://s192.photobucket.com/user/chadwimc/media/truck13_zps814d744e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z64/chadwimc/truck13_zps814d744e.jpg</a> You may or may not be from Ohio, but I've seen a truck that was exactly the same (roof rack, color, top) drive down through my town a few weeks ago. I actually looked for a bolt face sticker.. 
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:20:53 AM EDT
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Check the Ram 1500 with the 3.0 liter ecodiesel. 20/28 mpg
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:53:32 AM EDT
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You may or may not be from Ohio, but I've seen a truck that was exactly the same (roof rack, color, top) drive down through my town a few weeks ago. I actually looked for a bolt face sticker..
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[b] So far this seems to be narrowing it to a Tacoma for me...any other suggestions?
. I was a Ford truck guy for 30 years. I looked at them from every angle. I just could...not...do it...Sayonara, Henry... Beware of those Tacomas. Its like joining a cult or something...
<a href="http://s192.photobucket.com/user/chadwimc/media/truck13_zps814d744e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z64/chadwimc/truck13_zps814d744e.jpg</a> You may or may not be from Ohio, but I've seen a truck that was exactly the same (roof rack, color, top) drive down through my town a few weeks ago. I actually looked for a bolt face sticker..
Unless it was day 1, a few weeks ago, this thing was still on a car hauler...It had two miles on it when I test drove it... |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:07:08 AM EDT
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midsize pickup, you an get either a Taco or Frontier. Is there anything else?
Beware the Taco Kool-aid, I was tricked into drinking it, and its really is just kool-aid. Its a decent truck, but does nothing well |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:30:11 AM EDT
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In before the wave of taco recommendations... Hi-Lux? 
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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:34:59 AM EDT
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A truck that gets better than 19mpg? They quit making those years ago... My 2011 F150 with a 5.0 gets 20 mpg on the highway and I carry a lot of extra stuff in it. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:37:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My 2011 F150 with a 5.0 gets 20 mpg on the highway and I carry a lot of extra stuff in it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A truck that gets better than 19mpg? They quit making those years ago... My 2011 F150 with a 5.0 gets 20 mpg on the highway and I carry a lot of extra stuff in it. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:38:33 AM EDT
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Tacoma sounds like a good fit, but can you get a 4wd double cab for less than $30k? If you go with a base model, it's REALLY close, but you should be able to. They are tough to find, however. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 11:26:16 AM EDT
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You will want a true 1/2 ton for a 2 horse trailer. Without a doubt.
You will also want a v8 for smoother shifting under a load with a live stock trailer behind you. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 1:10:31 AM EDT
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Update in OP. Looking for lift and bumper/winch recommendations for a 2014 Tacoma.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 1:16:53 AM EDT
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Beware the Taco Kool-aid, I was tricked into drinking it, and its really is just kool-aid. Its a decent truck, but does nothing well yeah, i made that mistake too. my 4cylinder auto got worse mileage than the v8 mustang it replaced. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 1:51:03 AM EDT
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Update in OP. Looking for lift and bumper/winch recommendations for a 2014 Tacoma. If you're not planning to off-road ... that's a lot of excess weight to hang off the front end just to look cool. 
That said... Shrockworks. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 1:54:59 AM EDT
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Edit: Gents, Looks like I am pretty much sold on a 2014 Tacoma access cab. I won't be able to actually pick it up for a few months yet, but I figure I might go ahead and have some stuff added to it so it is ready to go when I pick it up. So far I am looking at: This winch: http://www.amazon.com/WARN-28500-XD9000-9000-lb-Winch/dp/B0002Z9SU6/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1403168476&sr=1-1&keywords=Warn+XD9000 This bumper: http://store.arbusa.com/ARB-Deluxe-Bar-Toyota-Tacoma-2012-13-3423140-P22769.aspx And this lift: http://store.arbusa.com/2-Inch-05-On-Tacoma-Heavy-Sport-Kit-OMETAC05HKS-P20932.aspx Thoughts? Suggestions as far as the winch bit goes? I thought I might want to go up to a 10k pound winch, but the 9k pounder should give me a thousand pounds of wiggle room all loaded up as it is... Also, what size tires can I put on a Tacoma with a 2 inch lift without them rubbing? Cheers, Ben OP: I would like to get a midsize pickup. It should get as good or better gas efficiency (real world, not advertised) than the 2010 wrangler I sold before coming out here (about 19 MPG combined). I want an automatic transmission, 4x4, and it should be reasonably capable off road (though that isn't the primary intended use). I want it under $30k. I don't want electric windows, doors, etc. It cannot be union made. So far this seems to be narrowing it to a Tacoma for me...any other suggestions? Also, a V6 is fine for pulling a small boat, right? And could I get away with towing a small horse trailer (2 horses) later on with a V6, or would I then need a V8? I've always had SUVs...school me on pickups. Maybe you should use it for a while to see what you really need. Unless of course you are just trying to impress your friends then you should get all that stuff and the biggest tires your credit card can afford. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 1:57:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yupQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In before the wave of taco recommendations... yuprecommendation for shotties and rotties to transport in the Taco.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 2:44:02 AM EDT
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I'd skip the ARB. They are notoriously the heaviest of the bumpers. Look at offerings from all-pro, metal tech, demello off road or many others. That extra weight up front is going to require either stiffer springs and new shocks or a cool over set up to combat the droop that's gonna happen. For the suspension id look at old man emu, bilstein or icon.
This from an FJ owner. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 5:25:45 AM EDT
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Congrats on the tacoma, welcome to a disease far more expensive the BRD.
I just bought a 2010 tacoma to replace my 96 taco. Go to tacomaworld, read up. It is kind of the arfcom for tacoma owners. And we are amongst them.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 6:05:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're not planning to off-road ... that's a lot of excess weight to hang off the front end just to look cool. That said... Shrockworks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Update in OP. Looking for lift and bumper/winch recommendations for a 2014 Tacoma. If you're not planning to off-road ... that's a lot of excess weight to hang off the front end just to look cool. That said... Shrockworks. I have successfully destroyed a 1998 Land Rover Discovery and a 2010 Jeep Wrangler off roading the shit out of them...I'll see if the Taco fares better.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 6:09:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're not planning to off-road ... that's a lot of excess weight to hang off the front end just to look cool. That said... Shrockworks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Update in OP. Looking for lift and bumper/winch recommendations for a 2014 Tacoma. If you're not planning to off-road ... that's a lot of excess weight to hang off the front end just to look cool. That said... Shrockworks. http://www.demello-offroad.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=226 |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 6:32:17 AM EDT
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Edit: Gents, Looks like I am pretty much sold on a 2014 Tacoma access cab. I won't be able to actually pick it up for a few months yet, but I figure I might go ahead and have some stuff added to it so it is ready to go when I pick it up. So far I am looking at: This winch: http://www.amazon.com/WARN-28500-XD9000-9000-lb-Winch/dp/B0002Z9SU6/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1403168476&sr=1-1&keywords=Warn+XD9000 This bumper: http://store.arbusa.com/ARB-Deluxe-Bar-Toyota-Tacoma-2012-13-3423140-P22769.aspx And this lift: http://store.arbusa.com/2-Inch-05-On-Tacoma-Heavy-Sport-Kit-OMETAC05HKS-P20932.aspx Thoughts? Suggestions as far as the winch bit goes? I thought I might want to go up to a 10k pound winch, but the 9k pounder should give me a thousand pounds of wiggle room all loaded up as it is... Also, what size tires can I put on a Tacoma with a 2 inch lift without them rubbing? Cheers, Ben OP: I would like to get a midsize pickup. It should get as good or better gas efficiency (real world, not advertised) than the 2010 wrangler I sold before coming out here (about 19 MPG combined). I want an automatic transmission, 4x4, and it should be reasonably capable off road (though that isn't the primary intended use). I want it under $30k. I don't want electric windows, doors, etc. It cannot be union made. So far this seems to be narrowing it to a Tacoma for me...any other suggestions? Also, a V6 is fine for pulling a small boat, right? And could I get away with towing a small horse trailer (2 horses) later on with a V6, or would I then need a V8? I've always had SUVs...school me on pickups. i'm not a huge fan of a lot of the ARB bumpers because they tend to stick out pretty far which doesn't do much for your approach angle. there are a lot of aftermarket companies that make bumpers better suited to rock crawling type offroading than the ARB. as for the winches and other stuff, the rest of the ARB line is good stuff, Warn makes good products however there are better values out there like engo and others, 4 wheel and off road did a bargain 9k winch comparo not too long ago. the v6 in the tacos makes 265ish hp so it should be fine for a small boat or horse trailer. i believe you'll want to do the diff drop with a 2" lift and you should be able to fit 32" tires (265/75-16 is stock on the TRD Off Road) without issue, 33's are doable if you hammer on a body seam to keep from rubbing i think. also, Nissan Frontiers are non-union made in TN and should come in under 30k. |
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