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Posted: 8/21/2005 10:10:32 AM EDT
This is for all intended purposes this is military and weapons web site. Most people who frequent this site are police, soldiers, marines specops contractors or extreamly knowledgeable weapon experts. The people who frequent here have more knowledge about weapons and tactics than most humans will ever know. Some of the shit we know would scare the living fuck out of most humans. Most of my topics have tried to bring some of this knowledge out of you guys so I could see what is the general consensus about differerent history military and weapons topics. This board is great for shit like my topics. Arnt my topics as least as exciting as people who parade there pics of their kids or pets. They must be I get a lot of replys and a whole lot of great information. The people who frequent here know information few humans have
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:15:05 AM EDT
I don't think your posts are irritating, but I think your wrong about this one link
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:17:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
I don't think your posts are irritating, but I think your wrong about this one link

ha ha ha even I dont like some things. I still hate socom 2. But am looking forword to Socom 3 guess someone at sony and the other companies I emailed got my point. I must have sent hundreds of emails.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:19:15 AM EDT
You're kidding right? How many of those were to your senators?
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:22:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By w4klr:
You're kidding right? How many of those were to your senators?

On any given week I send out a shit load of emails. I have nothing to do in between criminal justice and education classes. I have sent out at least a hundred emails to senators, NRA people and a biblical flood of emails to gun owner friend Jeb BUSH
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:24:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:24:46 AM EDT
Well then in that case I have nothing negative to say. I've never seen anything irritating with your posts, unless you start praising airsoft, then we will revoke your 1st amendment right.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:25:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:
Most people who frequent this site are police, soldiers, marines specops contractors or extreamly knowledgeable weapon experts.



That is flat out

Sgatr15
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:26:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:
Most people who frequent this site are police, soldiers, marines specops contractors or extreamly knowledgeable weapon experts.



That is flat out

Sgatr15



I'll agree, most people here are just firearm owners looking for sanity in a liberal world of idiots.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:27:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
I don't think your posts are irritating, but I think your wrong about this one link

ha ha ha even I dont like some things.



Well yeah..

But you said this:
\

It really pisses me off when I run out of ammo and have to use the pistol or an enemy's weapon If a seal goes into battle with only 3 or 6 mags he deserves to die for being stupid


That's just being stupid.

Sgat1r5
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:28:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:
Most people who frequent this site are police, soldiers, marines specops contractors or extreamly knowledgeable weapon experts.



That is flat out

Sgatr15

Why do you say that. I have talked to a lot of gun owners who now less than nothing about their firearms. when ever I meet a new gun owner I tell them to check out this site if they want to learn something about guns and gun use. Have you talked to most people they dont know anything when it comes to firearms. I have a lot of police friends who dont know weapons from there anuses.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:30:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 10:30:56 AM EDT by bloodmoon]

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
I don't think your posts are irritating, but I think your wrong about this one link

ha ha ha even I dont like some things.



Well yeah..

But you said this:
\

It really pisses me off when I run out of ammo and have to use the pistol or an enemy's weapon If a seal goes into battle with only 3 or 6 mags he deserves to die for being stupid


That's just being stupid.

Sgat1r5

When I look back on that is was stupid. I was more angry about other things when I said that. If I could turn back time
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:30:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By w4klr:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:
Most people who frequent this site are police, soldiers, marines specops contractors or extreamly knowledgeable weapon experts.



That is flat out

Sgatr15



I'll agree, most people here are just firearm owners looking for sanity in a liberal world of idiots.



Sanity?
Here?


Hell, I come here to escape sanity.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:32:33 AM EDT
Ok Yankee, how about an alternative to kids
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:33:39 AM EDT
Because you're making these idiotic comparisons like some five year old arguing over which superhero is better; not to mention a good portion of this board are just civilians with an interest in guns. There are operators here; in time you'll figure out whose opinions are worth something. But this board is primarily for gun enthusiasts to come here to shoot the shit and talk shop.

If you want to talk to real operators feel free to head over to lightfighter.net or socnetcentral.com and ask your questions over there.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:35:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By w4klr:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:
Most people who frequent this site are police, soldiers, marines specops contractors or extreamly knowledgeable weapon experts.



That is flat out

Sgatr15



I'll agree, most people here are just firearm owners looking for sanity in a liberal world of idiots.

Are you kidding. Talk to people at the range most of them know next to nothing about firearms. Hell some of the things I read on here are really informative. I have never been able to learn so much about weapons before I started reading some of these topics and Iwas in the military for six years.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:37:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mmx1:
Because you're making these idiotic comparisons like some five year old arguing over which superhero is better; not to mention a good portion of this board are just civilians with an interest in guns. There are operators here; in time you'll figure out whose opinions are worth something. But this board is primarily for gun enthusiasts to come here to shoot the shit and talk shop.

If you want to talk to real operators feel free to head over to lightfighter.net or socnetcentral.com and ask your questions over there.

Not really Idiotic I am interested in what people think about military topics. You take for granted the info that can be learned here my friend.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:39:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mmx1:
Because you're making these idiotic comparisons like some five year old arguing over which superhero is better; not to mention a good portion of this board are just civilians with an interest in guns. There are operators here; in time you'll figure out whose opinions are worth something. But this board is primarily for gun enthusiasts to come here to shoot the shit and talk shop.

If you want to talk to real operators feel free to head over to lightfighter.net or socnetcentral.com and ask your questions over there.

Why are they idiotic? I am interested in the best infantry men and other things I dont know. Why reply if you dont like the topic friend.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:40:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By w4klr:
You're kidding right? How many of those were to your senators?



+1 write ur local reps and ur state senators instead of sony much more productive use of time
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:42:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DigDug:
Please get a girlfriend. Please.





or some more porno to keep himself entertained.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:42:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lazer80:

Originally Posted By w4klr:
You're kidding right? How many of those were to your senators?



+1 write ur local reps and ur state senators instead of sony much more productive use of time

I already replyed to that question. I send out a lot more emails to people in power.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:43:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By w4klr:
Ok Yankee, how about an alternative to kids



I don't have any, but do what you gotta do.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:44:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By DigDug:
Please get a girlfriend. Please.





or some more porno to keep himself entertained.

Got a girlfriend and porn. However I value information and learning more than all else.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:45:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By DigDug:
Please get a girlfriend. Please.





or some more porno to keep himself entertained.

I have a lot of free time in between college classes and shooting.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:46:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:

Originally Posted By mmx1:
Because you're making these idiotic comparisons like some five year old arguing over which superhero is better; not to mention a good portion of this board are just civilians with an interest in guns. There are operators here; in time you'll figure out whose opinions are worth something. But this board is primarily for gun enthusiasts to come here to shoot the shit and talk shop.

If you want to talk to real operators feel free to head over to lightfighter.net or socnetcentral.com and ask your questions over there.

Not really Idiotic I am interested in what people think about military topics. You take for granted the info that can be learned here my friend.



I learned by reading and listening (and figuring out who to listen to) before opening my mouth. For good reason, because those first questions I would have asked would have been ignorant and silly like yours. Unfortunately, most of the replies to your topics have been joining in the pissing match instead of pointing out the problems with your questions.

Better? Better at what? for what mission? Those were way too vague questions that you asked about infantry. Nothing operates in a vacuum: every nation and service's (well, if they know what they're doing) units are trained and equipped precisely to work in concert with supporting and adjacent forces. Nobody in a modern first-world army fights alone. To take a unit or their equipment out of their context (especially on a broad scale like "infantry" - what sort? mechanized? light? medium? assault?) and compare them on general terms (better for what?) is foolishness.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:48:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:
Most people who frequent this site are police, soldiers, marines specops contractors or extreamly knowledgeable weapon experts.



That is flat out

Sgatr15



I agree. Most are non-vet (of any "military like" org.) keyboard commandos.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:49:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 10:55:39 AM EDT by bloodmoon]

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:

Originally Posted By mmx1:
Because you're making these idiotic comparisons like some five year old arguing over which superhero is better; not to mention a good portion of this board are just civilians with an interest in guns. There are operators here; in time you'll figure out whose opinions are worth something. But this board is primarily for gun enthusiasts to come here to shoot the shit and talk shop.

If you want to talk to real operators feel free to head over to lightfighter.net or socnetcentral.com and ask your questions over there.

Not really Idiotic I am interested in what people think about military topics. You take for granted the info that can be learned here my friend.



I learned by reading and listening (and figuring out who to listen to) before opening my mouth. For good reason, because those first questions I would have asked would have been ignorant and silly like yours. Unfortunately, most of the replies to your topics have been joining in the pissing match instead of pointing out the problems with your questions.

Better? Better at what? for what mission? Those were way too vague questions that you asked about infantry. Nothing operates in a vacuum: every nation and service's (well, if they know what they're doing) units are trained and equipped precisely to work in concert with supporting and adjacent forces. Nobody in a modern first-world army fights alone. To take a unit or their equipment out of their context (especially on a broad scale like "infantry" - what sort? mechanized? light? medium? assault?) and compare them on general terms (better for what?) is foolishness.

Why all the hostility? My questions were based on information holes. I am truly sorry if I did not ask my questions to your likeing I will try harder in the future to please everyone with my question. Basically my questions are asked because of my ignorance on the subject
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:54:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HELOBRAVO:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:
Most people who frequent this site are police, soldiers, marines specops contractors or extreamly knowledgeable weapon experts.



That is flat out

Sgatr15



I agree. Most are non-vet (of any "military like" org.) keyboard commandos.

My question to you is why do you believe that? I was in the military for 6 years and have seen infantry commanders and platoon daddies who new next to nothing besides what they absolutely had to know. I have learned more about weapons here than in the military.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:57:43 AM EDT
I just think you need to write better. I almost understood what you were typing.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:59:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hawker:
I just think you need to write better. I almost understood what you were typing.

I try my best but grammer is not my strong area. I am a spell check fanatic
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:00:37 AM EDT
Chill, my criticism is of the questions you're asking, not you personally. Don't take everything (or anything) here personally.

Stuff like that rubs me the wrong way because it sounds like yet another airsoft poser coming here and asking "SEALs vs Delta, who would win?" or something like that.

Infantry guys don't need to know much about their weapons. It's not like they, at the platoon level, have much choice over them anyway. They need to know capabilities, operation, and maintenance. There are a million things more important to them and to their mission than what gun they're holding.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:09:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 11:19:40 AM EDT by bloodmoon]

Originally Posted By mmx1:
Chill, my criticism is of the questions you're asking, not you personally. Don't take everything (or anything) here personally.

Stuff like that rubs me the wrong way because it sounds like yet another airsoft poser coming here and asking "SEALs vs Delta, who would win?" or something like that.

Infantry guys don't need to know much about their weapons. It's not like they, at the platoon level, have much choice over them anyway. They need to know capabilities, operation, and maintenance. There are a million things more important to them and to their mission than what gun they're holding.

My infantry question was based on an observation I made at Fort Hood and Fort Stewart. In two different excersises I observed canadian infantry out perform the best battalions of the First Cav and the 3rd infantry. Our finest mech infantry was out performed by leaps and bounds at the range, during force on force training and during road marches and pt. There soldiers were exceptional at shooting and humiliated our top shooters on the qualifying range. So my questions reflected basic infantry based on my info and observations.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:40:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 11:42:20 AM EDT by bloodmoon]

Originally Posted By mmx1:
Chill, my criticism is of the questions you're asking, not you personally. Don't take everything (or anything) here personally.

Stuff like that rubs me the wrong way because it sounds like yet another airsoft poser coming here and asking "SEALs vs Delta, who would win?" or something like that.

Infantry guys don't need to know much about their weapons. It's not like they, at the platoon level, have much choice over them anyway. They need to know capabilities, operation, and maintenance. There are a million things more important to them and to their mission than what gun they're holding.

When I was talking about what infantry know I was not talking about weapons. I am talking tactics, vehical and plane identification. survival tactics. ambush tactics. and other important combat and tactics info that these leaders not only were ignorant of but didnt even think was important info to know. I once had a training officer belittle me because I brought up the suggestion of intensive urban combat training that my battalion wasnt doing. That jackass didnt think that urban warfare was important. This was before Iraq. I even gave the batt commander hours of research I had done on urban conflict and how the future battle field would focus on urban conflict. I had tons of info on somalia and chechnya.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 12:00:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:
If I could turn back time


If you could find a way.....?
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