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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:31:22 AM EDT
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Let them break in, then kill them.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:32:32 AM EDT
[#2]
Motion lights.
Landscaping. impact resistant laminate on windows (slows 'em down a little more) Improved doors/sliding doors + long screws on hinges, etc. Improved locks. Same as what I would suggest everyone do. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:32:58 AM EDT
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Lights, cameras, improved door and window locks, protective film on the windows so it takes some effort to get through the glass, evil shrubbery (note that it makes exiting the house a bitch as well in an emergency), and a friendly visit to our local home security forum...
Edit - macman37, great minds think alike... and so do ours! 
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:34:00 AM EDT
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claymore mines
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:34:25 AM EDT
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Dogs.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:34:37 AM EDT
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A locking gate? That would keep people from driving up.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:34:50 AM EDT
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Inside and outside dogs. Dogs are basically free for the taking you just have to feed and water them. I am sure some shelter dogs would love to live out in a rural area and act as security. Expecting dogs to fight is a waste of time. But just having them present will dissuade some attempts.
Motion detectors w/ lights Video surveillance system Fake alarm company signs Safes should be bolted to concrete slab. Harden doors (strikemaster II door jambs with solid core doors) and windows bars and/or film. 24/7 Carry inside/outside for all adults. Kentucky has open carry and castle doctrine. File police report of every attempt. ETA: Fencing? Gate? What is the layout of the property like? |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:37:18 AM EDT
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Fence it all in, buy the biggest badest bull and cut him loose. Either that or get a tom turkey like I did that had a chemical imbalance that would equal a over dose of viagra and he would try and top anything. Scared the hell out of the UPS guy lol.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:37:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: claymore mines beat to it... This or Punji Pits... |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:38:06 AM EDT
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Does she know how to use a firearm???
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:39:35 AM EDT
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i like the claymore mine idea
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:40:31 AM EDT
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If he's got money, a trained GSD would work well.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:41:17 AM EDT
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Inside and outside dogs. Dogs are basically free for the taking you just have to feed and water them. I am sure some shelter dogs would love to live out in a rural area and act as security. Expecting dogs to fight is a waste of time. But just having them present will dissuade some attempts. Motion detectors w/ lights Video surveillance system Fake alarm company signs Safes should be bolted to concrete slab. Harden doors (strikemaster II door jambs with solid core doors) and windows bars and/or film. 24/7 Carry inside/outside for all adults. Kentucky has open carry and castle doctrine. File police report of every attempt. ETA: Fencing? Gate? What is the layout of the property like? A good start. Remember, Perception is Reality. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:43:00 AM EDT
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All the above... Also, my wife's uncle has some type of IR beam thing down at the end of his drive way. If a car or person breaks the beam it sounds a chime inside the house. It gives you an early warning of someone coming up the drive way to man the 50's in the upstairs windows and there's nothing noticeable at the end of the drive.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:43:10 AM EDT
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Does she know how to use a firearm??? Yes, but typical woman (no offense intended) she would be highly reluctant to use it. My buddy would use it in a heartbeat but he is disabled...lost a leg. Hard for him to get to a door fast enough to shoot. That was what happened the second attempt. She waoke him up and told him someone was outside. He was trying to get up too quick out of bed and missed his chair. He fell in the floor and by the time he got up and in to the chair and then into the livingroom, there was no one outside but footprints showing she had indeed been right that someone was there. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:43:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:43:42 AM EDT
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If he's got money, a trained GSD would work well. This You know, dogs work best in a team. So I would have about 4 of them. One dog might bark, and possibly bite someone. 4 dogs can pull them down and finish them off. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:44:27 AM EDT
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Get geese.
Suppopsedly better hearing range than dogs and noisier than 2 motherfuckers. That, of course, will only work when he's home. A housesitter seems to be in his future when he and the wife are away. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:44:59 AM EDT
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If he's got money, a trained GSD would work well. My opinion of guard dogs is low. The amount of constant training needed (time and money) not to mention the initial cost make them impractical for most people. You would be better off putting that time and money into training with your firearms and hardening your home. All I ask of my dogs is to act as an early warning system and a visible deterrent. What are you going to do with your $3000 dollar killing machine when company comes over? Are you prepared for the liability when he bites your friends daughter, UPS man, etc. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:45:09 AM EDT
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Security system. Video system. Motions system. Dogs.
Have a detector set up at the beginning of their driveway that will trip lights. That way they will get some warning when a car pulls up. You could set it up to turn on all the lights. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:45:38 AM EDT
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get a trail camera and install it on the drive. that way you will have photos of all the comings and goings when you are not home at a reasonable price.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:45:57 AM EDT
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I will tell him about the driveway alarm today......hadn't thought about that. He could shine that across his drive pretty easy and hide it too. Thanks everyone for some great suggestions.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:46:17 AM EDT
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Motion lights. Landscaping. impact resistant laminate on windows (slows 'em down a little more) Improved doors/sliding doors + long screws on hinges, etc. Improved locks. Same as what I would suggest everyone do. I'd add: Alarm System with loud outside speaker/strobe lights (even with a 30 minute police response time most thieves won't like the extra attention) Driveway alarm Video cameras (or at least a game camera on the driveway) Big dog Of course, nothing will stop a really determined thief. The name of the game is to make yourself a harder target than the next guy. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:47:36 AM EDT
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Let them break in, then kill them. There won't be any repeat offenders after that. 
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:48:27 AM EDT
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One of the things that I learned quite recently which really surprised me is that crime is just as rampant in the country as it is in the city.
We have had some extremely violent crimes in nearby rural Ohio in the past few years, including one case last year in which an elderly couple was robbed and beaten in a home invasion in which the man's sizable gun collection was the target (he had poor OPSEC and people found out about his guns). Basically all the normal advice applies: - Security lighting. - Motion sensors. - Deadbolt locks. - A good dog. - Alarms, with yard signs. - etc etc. The thing about country living though is that LE response times to a 911 call may be much longer, and he might have to hang in there on his own for quite some time before help arrives. This means having the best defensive weapons for his situation, good training, and good prior defensive planning. I would advise him to plan out his home defense "critical incident response" plan the same way he might plan for a fire drill in his home, and I would strongly recommend having some type of a reinforced "safe room" (doesn't have to be fancy or expensive, could be just a room he reinforced himself somehow). |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:48:41 AM EDT
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All the above... Also, my wife's uncle has some type of IR beam thing down at the end of his drive way. If a car or person breaks the beam it sounds a chime inside the house. It gives you an early warning of someone coming up the drive way to man the 50's in the upstairs windows and there's nothing noticeable at the end of the drive. I've got a Voice Alert unit. Got it back when gas was > $4. You can have up to 6 detectors per base unit. Never had anyone try and steal gas, but when I get home the mutt knows it's dinner time and is standing by. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:48:56 AM EDT
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$3 magnetic door/window alarms. Can be had at any hardware store. Every window and interior door should have them.
Practice a sound security plan. Are doors and windows being locked? How does everyone know he has 3 safes worth of guns? Opsec fail? Why do you suspect that the gun safes are the target? Why are police reports not being filed? |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:49:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:52:33 AM EDT
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Game cameras are pretty slick. Set one up at every entrance to the property and you'll have a picture of anyone who shows up.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:53:50 AM EDT
[#30]
Security system (don't skimp on it) and a extra dog. Nothing like just the sound a couple of dogs raising hell to scare off the common crook. For the more determined ones your friend's wife needs to get her mind-set right and learn to use a weapon. A structured class would be best for her to learn.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:53:53 AM EDT
[#31]
RANDOM MAG DUMPS AFTER DARK. It worked very well for me. 10 rds,,,wait a while ,,,one shot,,,wait 3 rds,,,followed by 3 rds shotgun. In short make it like a war zone after dark. Word WILL get around.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:54:18 AM EDT
[#32]
My parents have a big yard light on a 20' pole. You can't pull up to the house without driving past it.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:55:32 AM EDT
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Here's one plate in the armor––wireless drive way monitor.
Game cameras, as used by hunters, will also help to identify the thieves. They won't prevent anything but they will help to learn who it was, which can be quite valuable to know. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:55:51 AM EDT
[#34]
Claymores and beltfeds.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:57:13 AM EDT
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Quoted:
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All the above... Also, my wife's uncle has some type of IR beam thing down at the end of his drive way. If a car or person breaks the beam it sounds a chime inside the house. It gives you an early warning of someone coming up the drive way to man the 50's in the upstairs windows and there's nothing noticeable at the end of the drive. I've got a Voice Alert unit. Got it back when gas was > $4. You can have up to 6 detectors per base unit. Never had anyone try and steal gas, but when I get home the mutt knows it's dinner time and is standing by. Yeah, her uncle's dog goes ape shit every time the chime sounds. He also has it rigged to a switchable speaker out in his pole barn so he knows if someone's approaching when he's working out there. He turns that off when he goes into the house. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:57:14 AM EDT
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Quoted: RANDOM MAG DUMPS AFTER DARK. It worked very well for me. 10 rds,,,wait a while ,,,one shot,,,wait 3 rds,,,followed by 3 rds shotgun. In short make it like a war zone after dark. Word WILL get around. Worked for my parents ~15 years ago. Someone stole the trolling motor off of our sneakboat in the pond, and my dad unloaded a .357 in the dirt a couple times and started spreading a rumor about how he might have winged the guy jumping the fence. I still hear that from neighbors who weren't even living there at the time, never had a problem since. (the nice neighbors know the truth, the sketchy ones think we are all gun-crazy killers) |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:57:57 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: Quoted: If he's got money, a trained GSD would work well. My opinion of guard dogs is low. The amount of constant training needed (time and money) not to mention the initial cost make them impractical for most people. You would be better off putting that time and money into training with your firearms and hardening your home. All I ask of my dogs is to act as an early warning system and a visible deterrent. What are you going to do with your $3000 dollar killing machine when company comes over? Are you prepared for the liability when he bites your friends daughter, UPS man, etc. This. Guard dogs are more trouble than having your shit stolen, IMHO. Get a yappy dog with good ears, and you get the benefit of having a nice pet that won't chew a kid's arm off and cost you tens of thousands in court costs & settlements. An easy early-warning system is a wireless motion detector at the gate with an alarm at the house. Also, signs work. We put up surveilance/alarm signs & fake camera pods at our company's cabin after numerous thefts and they've ceased, completely. I was skeptical but I think a lot of times thieves are opportunists and will choose the easiest target. If your place looks defended, they'll think it is and choose an easier target. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:58:27 AM EDT
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RANDOM MAG DUMPS AFTER DARK. It worked very well for me. 10 rds,,,wait a while ,,,one shot,,,wait 3 rds,,,followed by 3 rds shotgun. In short make it like a war zone after dark. Word WILL get around. Worked for my parents ~15 years ago. Someone stole the trolling motor off of our sneakboat in the pond, and my dad unloaded a .357 in the dirt a couple times and started spreading a rumor about how he might have winged the guy jumping the fence. I still hear that from neighbors who weren't even living there at the time, never had a problem since. (the nice neighbors know the truth, the sketchy ones think we are all gun-crazy killers) Or any criminals coming make sure they come armed. Opsec. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:00:54 AM EDT
[#39]
Hardened entrances to the house would be my first start.
Actually my first start would be an M1A with a red dot and flashlight for everyone in the house. THEN harden the entrances. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:01:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: I don't do a lot of advertising/shooting around the house, and that was 15 years ago, but i think i alone outgun everyone within a mile radius combined Quoted: Or any criminals coming make sure they come armed. Quoted: RANDOM MAG DUMPS AFTER DARK. It worked very well for me. 10 rds,,,wait a while ,,,one shot,,,wait 3 rds,,,followed by 3 rds shotgun. In short make it like a war zone after dark. Word WILL get around. Worked for my parents ~15 years ago. Someone stole the trolling motor off of our sneakboat in the pond, and my dad unloaded a .357 in the dirt a couple times and started spreading a rumor about how he might have winged the guy jumping the fence. I still hear that from neighbors who weren't even living there at the time, never had a problem since. (the nice neighbors know the truth, the sketchy ones think we are all gun-crazy killers) Opsec.  ...Most common thieves are looking for an easy score, not a fight. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:02:33 AM EDT
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I'll have to deal with this soon, except no one thinks I have money.
I have 2 safes bolted to the floor, everything of value is in them. No matter what you do, eventually your going to have to leave the house, so unless your friend can afford security 24/7 they'll get in eventually.
Cameras, solid doors, barred windows, an alarm might work out in my case, I have a county sheriff who lives about 10 minutes down the road |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:04:42 AM EDT
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Hyenas.
People will not engage them. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:04:54 AM EDT
[#43]
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I will tell him about the driveway alarm today......hadn't thought about that. He could shine that across his drive pretty easy and hide it too. Thanks everyone for some great suggestions. http://www.homesecuritystore.com/p-978-dakota-alert-wma-3000-wireless-motion-alert-3000-driveway-alarm.aspx |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:05:55 AM EDT
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He should have his wife put on his hat and leave with his truck at night. While he sits at home with a 12 gauge.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:07:42 AM EDT
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All the above... Also, my wife's uncle has some type of IR beam thing down at the end of his drive way. If a car or person breaks the beam it sounds a chime inside the house. It gives you an early warning of someone coming up the drive way to man the 50's in the upstairs windows and there's nothing noticeable at the end of the drive. +1 Your wife had a near-miss. If the perps broke in, she would be a potential target as much as the firearms for a variety of reasons. It's time to elevate the game: get a puppy - or three - who will grow into a BIG dog. Doesn't have to be mean, just a loyal friend who knows his place and warns you of strangers. IR driveway sensor as discussed, lots of lights. Woman needs to keep gun ON her while at home, no exceptions, and be willing to use it. Reinforce all exterior door jams with 4" screws and steel plates (with cut-outs for the latch and deadbolt) - these make the door a multiple-kick entry instead of just one. Buys you time and slows them down. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:08:57 AM EDT
[#46]
have a chat with the neighbors and tell them whats going on...tell them that you know how to protect yourself and family...after that teach your wife to use a firearm....
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:11:17 AM EDT
[#47]
First post nails it.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:15:14 AM EDT
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Well if he has money then he should start with his perimeter. Fencing and gates ,Have the ability to light it up,have a CCTV system installed.
Yard to house.. Clean up the landscape,remove all "hideout" spots open things up. have a large dog or two on duty. House,strengthen all doors,widows,crawl spaces,and attic spaces. Have ability to light up outside of house, CCTV surveillance all doors windows etc. Have little barky dog inside.Have fortified/defensible position inside home. Everything on battery back up. |
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:15:39 AM EDT
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I go with the gsd + gate method.
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:17:49 AM EDT
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I'd make sure those safes are MONEY, good solid ones.
then I'd install a GE Security system for a couple hundred bucks with door and window sensors and the cellular option, so it can call him if/when there is a break in. the idea is to keep the valuables safe long enough for the law or him to respond. a good safe will keep normal criminal out FAR longer than a half hour. then add some security cameras to get pictures of the perps. there is a great thread in the survival forum by TheGrayMan about security cameras |
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