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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:47:58 PM EST
Just saw that this was a new product from Sierra.

They have added ballistic-type tips to their MatchKing line. For the 308 bullet it increases the BC all the way up to .545 (G1) which is absolutely amazing, over a 10% increase in bullet coefficency.

Anyone tried them to see if they work well or not?
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:54:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
Just saw that this was a new product from Sierra.

They have added ballistic-type tips to their MatchKing line. For the 308 bullet it increases the BC all the way up to .545 (G1) which is absolutely amazing, over a 10% increase in bullet coefficency.

Anyone tried them to see if they work well or not?
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There is a huge thread on them if you search. Try "TMK."
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:55:31 PM EST
How much did it raise the price?
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:55:35 PM EST
MK262 with plastic tips? tell me more
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:59:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hkmp5s:
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35c per bullet for 175gr smkTK

The price isn't bad for the immense performance gain.

For 77gr in 223 @ 3000fps it stays supersonic BEYOND 1,000 yards.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:00:11 AM EST
appears to be a secant ogive versus the tangent ogive of the original smk's. Seating depth will become more critical and may be more intolerant to jump whereas tangent ogives tend to be more forgiving to jump.
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Originally Posted By Shockergd:


35c per bullet for 175gr smkTK

The price isn't bad for the immense performance gain.

For 77gr in 223 @ 3000fps it stays supersonic BEYOND 1,000 yards.
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Originally Posted By Shockergd:
Originally Posted By hkmp5s:
How much did it raise the price?


35c per bullet for 175gr smkTK

The price isn't bad for the immense performance gain.

For 77gr in 223 @ 3000fps it stays supersonic BEYOND 1,000 yards.


You'll never get it going that fast from an autoloader, and if you've got the boiler room just buy some 80s.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:05:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By imitation_crab:
appears to be a secant ogive versus the tangent ogive of the original smk's. Seating depth will become more critical and may be more intolerant to jump whereas tangent ogives tend to be more forgiving to jump.
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Yes, it's secant.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:11:16 AM EST
Tipped Match Kings

Some are secant, but the .224 pills look hybrid at best. There is a drastic angle change from the shank to the ogive on the .224 pills.

On the .30 cals, not so much.

77gr TMK




175gr TMK

Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:19:21 AM EST
The 224 bullets are really only special because they fit on a magazine.

The 308 bullets are pretty damn awesome.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:20:37 AM EST
if they price these at regular smk price, I will try some. $0.50 per berger or scenar is too much for me especially when 175 smks shoot so damn well
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
The 224 bullets are really only special because they fit on a magazine.

The 308 bullets are pretty damn awesome.
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That 77gr TMK has a claimed G1 BC of .420, which is biting at the heels of the 75gr A-MAX. It will be interesting to see how it does in service rifle comps, and if it is going to end up in one of the Mk.262 Mod line-ups.
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These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....
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Originally Posted By 300BR:
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Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:44:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


Or because they didn't fit into an AR?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:45:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


Maybe you bought the blems... most of the rest of us enjoyed many years of superior performance for discount price.... then there are BTHP's.......
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


just the tip?
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just the tip?
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Originally Posted By JordanJP:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


just the tip?

Yeah, I kept finding them between my firing point and the target.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:49:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:


Or because they didn't fit into an AR?
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


Or because they didn't fit into an AR?


That depends on what the definition of is, is.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:51:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Yeah, I kept finding them between my firing point and the target.
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By JordanJP:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


just the tip?

Yeah, I kept finding them between my firing point and the target.


It's cuz yer "speshial". Or a commie plot. Or... uh... they little things..... tell me again how you know the tips fell out between you and the target? Maybe you just forgot how ta shoot. :)
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Originally Posted By 300BR:


That depends on what the definition of is, is.
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Originally Posted By 300BR:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


Or because they didn't fit into an AR?


That depends on what the definition of is, is.

Double speak
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Originally Posted By glorifiedG:

Double speak
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Originally Posted By glorifiedG:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


Or because they didn't fit into an AR?


That depends on what the definition of is, is.

Double speak


Blue dress
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


I've never had that problem with the Amax or the Vmax, and I've fired tons of both through ARs. Please explain this issue you had...
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:56:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DamageInc308:


I've never had that problem with the Amax or the Vmax, and I've fired tons of both through ARs. Please explain this issue you had...
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Originally Posted By DamageInc308:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


I've never had that problem with the Amax or the Vmax, and I've fired tons of both through ARs. Please explain this issue you had...

It was an early run of them, and the tips were loose and would fall out. That's all.
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Originally Posted By 300BR:
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those were Hornady, right?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:58:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

It was an early run of them, and the tips were loose and would fall out. That's all.
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By DamageInc308:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....

Were they discounted because the tips didn't stay in?


I've never had that problem with the Amax or the Vmax, and I've fired tons of both through ARs. Please explain this issue you had...

It was an early run of them, and the tips were loose and would fall out. That's all.


I'll give you that. Later runs were flawless. And way cheaper than SMK's. Hornady >Sierra.

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Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:59:08 AM EST
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Never had any issues with these tips falling out
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Originally Posted By mcantu:


those were Hornady, right?
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Originally Posted By 300BR:
These were released years ago with the code name, "AMAX". Of course they were heavily discounted.....


those were Hornady, right?



Yes.

Still /Thread
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Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
Never had any issues with these tips falling out
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608024647776470703&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0
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I do still have the box of Accubonds that the tips are "molding" in.

I just don't have good luck with tipped bullets.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:02:12 AM EST
I'm hooked on Nosler bullets for some reason, oh well.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:04:02 AM EST
I always liked the original 55 grain .223 BlitzKings. They were very accurate out of one of my 16" 1-9"AR's. I still have a few boxes of them left.
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

I do still have the box of Accubonds that the tips are "molding" in.

I just don't have good luck with tipped bullets.
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
Never had any issues with these tips falling out
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608024647776470703&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

I do still have the box of Accubonds that the tips are "molding" in.

I just don't have good luck with tipped bullets.


Hunting? I don't use BT, use Partions
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That photo tells the story. 8126N, what's that.
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